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Re: "What if" you have money to develop only one feature of AmigaOS?
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@Elwood

"Memory protection". You asked for one feature only. As a developer I hate when input.device or Intuition crashes or locks up because of some mistake somewhere.

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@Elwood

The best browser for Amiga systems is Wayfarer (MorphOS): it struggles with speed even if it is capable of displaying every websites (including YouTube using the mobile version).

The reality, as already explained by Jadacap AND Afxgroup AND Kas1e AND Joerg, is that having a modern and fast web browser on a monocore Big Endian architecture will never be achievable at a decent speed to be able to enjoy actual web surfing.

From Kas1e: Quote:
Browservice sounds like way to go for sure(...)


From Joerg: Quote:
Execute browservice on this Linux host, which can use the additional CPU cores (X1000 and X5000 only)...


From afxgroup: Quote:
I think this is the best solution on our platforms..


So, if all the WebBrowser experts say so, I don't think 10 000€ would change anything at the actual limitations.

Maybe focus on other things.

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Or throw in $10,000 and port real stuff instead of a kludge.


$10,000? For a real port? Where do you find such prices and people willing to do so? :) $100,000, then yes, maybe you’ll find someone brave enough to spend years of their life fighting with this madness called the modern web. See how many years Jacadcaps spent on Wayfarer for MorphOS and how much he did, and in the end, what? A browser, which still doesn’t work on some pages being so slow that it’s impossible to use. Yes, it’s better than Odyssey, of course, but it’s really slow on our hardware, has no JIT, and has all sorts of related issues because of that. And that’s for a professional programmer spending years of his life on a proper port. Do you need a browser where you won’t be able to use modern sites and still have to use other hardware and another browser anyway? IMHO, the only real way is what K-L says. We have no other choice today.

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I may say unpopular things, but if asked for one feature, it should be “just more interesting and quality software,” and that’s all. Everything which we need OS provides already.

No need for SMP. That’s just banana thinking; it will change nothing. It will be ugly, buggy, and won’t speed up anything because of how the whole AmigaOS is designed. It will be the same as extended memory: hardly anyone uses it (i know about exceptions, but still).

No need for memory protection either. It’s Amiga; we’ve been here for 30 years, and everyone knows how it works. When we need real work, we all switch to Windows/Linux anyway. Without memory protection, we wrote software in a good way to avoid constant crashes. With memory protection, you’ll step onto the same road as other OSes : buggy and forgiving software. Maybe in one way it helps, but didn't in another one.

As we’re obscure, we have no viruses, no malware, no exploits, no need for security (I always laugh when people ask for “security fixes,” like someone uses AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS for reall important stuff, which can be easily hacked with or without those "security fixes").

So, for me—and this is, of course, IMHO—we only need new classes for ReAction, new native software, and to keep going the way we have until we all die or the whole Amiga thing fades away, just like other things before it. But after all these years, hoping and wishing for SMP, full memory protection, or someone making a browser again and again every few years… I don’t know. We just need to keep it as it is, just improved. IMHO.

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$10,000 is less money than I personally gave Jacek to release his wayfarer webkit patches so they could be used on OS4.

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