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gnash plugin on the Sam460ex ?
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anyone tried it yet? if so, is it useable?

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Is there a plugin?

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Gnash isn't a plugin, it's a standalone program. Tried with a few SWF files and played ok though.

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Yes is there but not pubblic or tested ...

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Wasn't this because it was to slow and the plugin api for owb was not added or something?

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@Samo79

I wrote an article about Gnash (+ my game choice) and Sam440 800Mhz: here
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@Antique

Yep more or less the reason is that i think, in Gnash's ML i've read that plugin was succefully compiled (based on Gnash 0.8.9 WIP) but actually there are no browser for test it and also main bug about CPU 100% still ...

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Thanks, seems quite interesting to read !

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Btw, i see that 10 days ago gnash 0.8.9 was released. And i read that there:
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Gnash is used as a plugin, starting with Firefox 4.0 (GTK GUI).

* NPAPI plugin: fix relative urls resolution in presence of <base> tag and "base" parameter; improved robustness and compatibility with chromium browser. Avoid blocking the parent process.


And among with all the other changes since our last version, i think it should be more or less "fine" version already. Maybe Afxgroup can merge his code with latest source ..

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Wasn't this because it was to slow and the plugin api for owb was not added or something?


IIRC, it was more than that. Gnash's code was not reentrant/thread-safe, which means that every new instance needs to be run in a separate Unix style process. This was a problem for being used as a plugin. As of a few days ago, this has been fixed. However, there's still the problems that you mentioned.

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@kas1e

The real problem is that Andrea is actually busy with personal things and to be honest i don't know when he can look at it

But, (good news) all source still there (in Gnash repository), maybe time permitted you can try to compile it, of course first we need a browser with NPAPI support (MUI OWB for instance)

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Just tried it. It works.
I tried it with a big .swf and it's pretty slow of course, as Flash is slow on a big PC box too
Anyway I think a gnash plugin will be wonderful inside a browser. It will allow to browse (bad) sites that use Flash with no problem at all.


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@ Elwood

thanks for testing and great to hear..looks like TimberWolf & gnash on the X1000 might be a good combo

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Well the Sam460 will do too.
I tried a big Flash file and the Flash used on websites are much smaller so I believe they will run at full speed.
We need the browser now

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Well the Sam460 will do too.
I tried a big Flash file and the Flash used on websites are much smaller so I believe they will run at full speed.
We need the browser now
I still don't understand the apparent reluctance of making a Gnash NPAPI plugin for IBrowse 2.4 - we've had this browser for years. All the stuff about GPL doesn't make a lot of sense to me either - if that argument is to be believed, OS4 must be made GPL because what's to stop people installing free libraries, datatypes, etc, that contain GPL'd code?

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Actually i have zero time to develop something for Amiga since i've changed my work.. and my days are really too busy to understand something when i go back at home..

i'm really tired...
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@afxgroup
if by the time Timberwolf is released as a (quite) stable beta, you'll still have no time at all, I would suggest to hand the job to others (by then I mean).
Seems quite an important development IMHO specially considering that GNASH is progressing on Linux (ie shows promise)...

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Gnash can be very usefull also for MUI-OWB, when completed of course ...

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@Futaura

I could actually port my swfdec plugin for Ibrowse 2.4, especially since I took inspiration from IBrowse flash plugin sources(in its morphos version, from Piru).

Though I changed some browser methods (redrawing) and got rid of unnecessary things for me, but that's not a big deal anyway.

The only trouble is that the plugin library base has to be relative, since like most unix stuff, swfdec (or rather the underlying libraries like cairo, glib and so on) rely on many globals.

And while i know how to do that with MorphOS, i have no clue how to deal with several openers and relative globals on OS3.x or OS4.

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@Fab

I'm not sure if it is relevant or not as far as Gnash goes, but although NPAPI plugins for IBrowse revolve around a normal AmigaOS shared library implementation, it is pretty much guaranteed that the library will only be opened once and calls to the plugin will come via a single context/task. So, you don't have to worry too much about fully re-entrant code as you normally would have to with a shared library. Of course, if the flash code relies on globals then this could be problematic if it is not able to work with multiple streams concurrently.

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Anyway, Gnash is truly progressing at good pace, they are releasing major updates every 6 months now, people can use 0.8.9 with FireFox 4.0 (release notes of latest version below)

http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=6759

so I think it would be great if someone with time could make a commitment in this regard, in order for us to use it too... (probably ver. 0.9.0 by the time TW comes out).

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