BasiliskII

Has anyone tried to port basiliskII on OS4 ?
I saw there is a morphos port.

The point is that there is a decent browser on mac 68k called icab which could fill the browser gap until something is released (paihia, ibrowse, sputnik, amizilla)

@Lio
thats a good question i wondered myself if this was possible
but dismissed it as i thought no browser for classic mac would have done the job
i totaly forgot about Icab

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This sounded interesting to me, so I thought I'd give it a try (icab on Basilisk).

While it is technically possible to browse sites with css, etc. like this -- it's not practical.

icab constantly freezes for 10-15 seconds at at time and chokes on almost every site I tried (including Amigans.net) -- I have much better success with IB 2.3 than I did with icab.

The 68k version is also out of date and has incomplete implementations of css, javascript, etc.

Screenshot

A mini-review of icab on 68k:
Review

Did you try on a real Amiga under basilisk II ?

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No -- I used the Windows version of Basilisk II.

iCab appeared to be having trouble with javascript (and suffering an icomplete implementation of CSS1).

Basilisk for OS4 would be cool -- but it's not a practical web browsing solution.

Keep in mind that the MOS version of Basilisk has some issues (also can't run MacOS8x) -- so an OS4 version is likely to be more than a simple "recompile".

@klesterjr
I use Icab under MOL (9.2) on my A1, it runs fine, in fact it is better than most other browsers available for Mac.

cheers

ace

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Different animal.

The PPC version (3.0) is supposed to be very good -- but the 68k version is old.

now thats a very good point klesterjr i too was thinking of the ppc version of icab not realizing we need the 68k version
will be interesting to see if it works
anyone up to the job ?

Yeh, agree. Stupid me, I should have realised that............................
Gee wouldn't Mac0nAmiga be good-:)

ace

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Yup, I recently tried ICab with Shapeshifter on my 1200 060 Voodoo3 Amiga. IBrowse (and probably any other Amiga browser) flies in comparison.

@all
I guess then the story is not all bad here. ICab has gone on from 68k to PPC and has developed into a very nice broweser for a limited audience, is there any way it could be redirected at AOS4 and synergies achieved?

ace

@All

how much work in porting Icab ppc to os4 ?

I ported BasilisKII last year to OS4 (before doing the quick port of Bochs).

The GUI isn't finished yet (my listbrowser is crashing), sound works and gfx in 32bit/monochrome too. I'm not sure about network working (it probably will require vlink.device from aminet or disabling the normal connection). It's not much work, but it has to be done.

There are a pair of betatesters using it.

Development stopped because I have been unable to use my A4000 all this year. Now that my A4000 seems to work, I have ordered an ide<->uwscsi adaptor to replace my 2 dead barracudas :_(

If someone is really, really interested in trying it out I may send him an old version (but as I did some experiments blindly without having a working machine I hope I find the right version and not a test one).

If there's interest about it I could upload a pre-release with limited features so people can enjoy photoshop 4 ;-P

And yes, being an StarCraft fan I checked out also SheepShaver but its sources are very dirty compared to BasiliskII. It also uses some memory mapping functions that make it harder to port (just if you don't have a clue about mmap/os4mem apis like me...)

@klesterjr

my OS4 port was done quickly thanks to the MorphOS port. Lots of thanks to Itix for his hard work porting it!

@crumb

Please keep up the good work

@Crumb

I have head big problems geting BasilisKII working under E-UAE, so think a native version is going to rock!!

@LiveForIt

Running BasiliskII on UAE? That sounds pretty masochistic. I tried Basilisk II on my CSPPC+Voodoo3 and it didn't feel slow. I didn't test it much but it should be *much* faster than running it through UAE.

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Naaaawww!

I have PCTask running Windows 3.11 & Shapeshifter running Mac OS8.1 -- both on UAE (and both very nicely, I might add).

I have no real use for Windows 3.11 (Solitaire anyone?) -- but Shapeshifter gives me Photoshop 4!

@crumb

Your work on Basilisk sounds great... Sorry your 4000's illness
got in the way.

I would be very interested in testing it out on my A1. Please let
me know if you'd like another betatester! Otherwise, it would be
great if you could post a progress snapshot to OS4Depot.

For many years. I ran Shapeshifter with various productivity apps
(CAD, Word, etc) demanded for work. I think folks underestimate
the possible productivity crutch classic Mac emulations offer
(particularly a PPC Mac) till we get new Amiga productivity apps.

Ever take a look at Sheepshaver? Without a 68k emulator, might it
be an easier(?) "next step"?

Thanks!

PJS

@Crumb

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It where quite slow, on classic Amiga, Mac emulation is done by patching the Mac rom?s so there is not CPU emulation to think of, the problem is really the disk access speed of all things, emulating disk scsi as disk image on top of emulated filesystem.

Why didn't you use a portion of your actual hard drive?

I can't say much for basilisk, but When I had my A1200T and Dual 040/PPC card (040@25mhz) I recall that both Shapeshifter and Fusion were quite usable because I dedicated a portion of my hard drive as a mac. Image files are very, very slow.

Visit my old site, http://maconamiga.amigaworld.net it has everything on there for classic mac emulation.