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IPetition - Amiga inc vs Hyperion Entertainment - Status Update.
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Hi All

Many thanks for all of you who have taken part, we have passed the 500 signitures barrier. Great Result!

Now, lets go for the biggie, lets get 1000 signitures. I aim to print out and post (snail mail) the petition to both parties.
So please continue to, spread the word in every language and to anyone who you know is an Amiga fan. Get them signitures going!

The petition is at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/amiga/index.html
(please post this anywhere you can)

Btw, does anyone here know if it would be worth sending a copy to the court where the case is being heard? would it make any real difference? (just a thought)

Thank you all.

Mikey C

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@Mikey_C

Before you print it out you may want to remove the rude comments and fake signatures.

Edit see most of them have gone now

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@Jurassicc

There shouldn't be any, I have been keeping a watchful eye on them and removing any that were inappropiate.

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@Mikey_C

Hey Mikey!!:

You might want to warn people that iPetitions defaults to signing you up for a $10 donation to them for using their service when you sign up.

On AwebPPC, at least, this never goes anywhere because something in the Javascript eats up all your memory (I went from 360+MB free to under 60MB in a couple of seconds) when it tries to process the donation page.


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@Paul

You don't pay anything if you don't want to, its purely optional, use a decent web browser and you'll see.

And it really pains me to say it, Amiga browsers aren't decent - yet!

F.W.I I donated something when I set up the petition.

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@Paul

I got the donation page but didn't donate anything and my vote still counted.

@Mickey_C

Well done for doing the petition and fingers crossed that it will do some good as we could do with a dose of sanity at the moment. I'm not sure sending a copy of the petition to the court would help but it certainly wouldn't hurt, so I would be inclined to do it.

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@Mikey_C

I would suggest not to send anything to the court.

If I were the judge, I'd see it as at best an unprofessional move, at worst a sneaky attempt to influence the court decision by means which are not supposed to do so.

A judge is supposed to rule based on the impression of the case resulting from its presentation by the lawyers of the two parties, who in turn use witnesses and evidence to aid their presentation.

The only reasonable way such a petition could be presented to the court/judge would be if one or both of the lawyers would incorporate it as evidence.

AFAIK -- and IANAL (nor a judge)

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Niels

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@nbache

Agreed - it would only make us (the Kommunity) appear as naive as those that signed it.

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@tonyw

Nothing wrong with the petition as it serves to let Amiga Inc and Hyperion know the feelings of their potential customers.

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@tonyw

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@nbache

Agreed - it would only make us (the Kommunity) appear as naive as those that signed it.


As such a huge percentage of the kommunity have signed it I think it a bit harsh to be calling such a lot of people naive.

Mikey_C's initative might not accomplish anything but there is no harm in trying , so long as it doesnt get sent to the judge.

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@Jurassicc

Whats wrong with sending the petition to the judge? It wont sway the judges decission but might further demonstrate to Amiga Inc and Hyperion that the community want them to work together.

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@JeffShepherd

I keep getting conflicting information send it/don't send it.



I don't know what to do

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@Mikey_C

Toss a coin.

Seriously, I would send it, it wont sway the judge but if there is no out of court settlement the judge might point to the petition to show both companies that the community want them to work together.

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@JeffShepherd

I keep getting conflicting information send it/don't send it.



I don't know what to do

Hi Mikey_C,

Send it to Hyperion Entertainment's and Amiga Inc.'s lawyers. Amiga Inc. would not want it shown, while I believe Hyperion would want it exposed.


I am firmly on Hyperion's side of this, as Amiga Inc., if they don't work with them equitably, they have nothing at all. (What a cheap move on Amiga Inc.'s part to do. To me it seems they've done nothing constructive for 5 years, THEN they make motherboards at one minute PAST midnight? Why, oh WHY can't they make the Amiga Fantasy???!!!!! instead of sinking $700,000 on lawyers??!!!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!? < too much?)



Again, without Hyperion Entertainment there IS NO AOS4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 (< too much?) etc.

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@Mikey_C

For what it's worth I signed the petition, but it probably should be aimed at Amiga Inc?

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@Mickey_C

I'm with Atheist and nbache here, don't send it to the court.

You don't know how the guy "ticks", so he might see it as
offending to get a letter from people which vae nothing to
do with the trial (lawyer-wise) and may take it as a
"Wanna bribe me?" situation.

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We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.
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Hi @Mikey_C

> I keep getting conflicting information send it/don't send it.



> I don't know what to do


Don't. It has no legal reference. To compel Amiga Inc. to shape-up, the community might try using a Class Action lawsuit.

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@Snuffy

Tbh i'd even throw money in a bounty if it were clear how
much would be needed, and if it were "secured" that we
actually get it, to "buy back" OS4.

Don't ask me how much, i think i'd go crazy on this

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We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.
And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.
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