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html5 and youtube on OWB OS4?
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is it possible in the future, Joerg?

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@jahc
It would certainly be nice.

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Yep nice but personally I don't believe anymore

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BTW in the event of a port should you like to working together with others in order to port the MUI version ?

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@jahc

Yea, porting the MOS version would not be a bad idea. It has loads more functionality: Download manager, MIME types, youtube player plugin, flash etc. etc.

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start to download MOS source code and install a cross compiler...

i'm really tired...
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Way cool !! Did you have latest sources from FAb ? (that one on his site imho a bit old). I ask him about some help (to explaint how it all should be done), and there is his answers:

1. Just declare yourself as platform morphos in the relevant config file then (platform.h or whatever it was) then. Will save you quite some tedious editing stuff (there are dozens if not hundreds of files with #if OS(MORPHOS)).

2. There aren't that many MUI4 calls. MUI4 specific methods/classes are mostly used for the new tab object (new tab object is handled as a normal group object, which allows me to display animation, favicons, ...), font initialisation uses a specific process.mui object (but can easily be replaced with a standard thread), lists/listtree construction (easily replaced with the old construct/destruct/display hooks), alpha aware dtpic object, and a couple things here and there.

But there are not only MUI4 calls, but also MorphOS specific calls for threading support, and a few other things i can't think about now.

Maybe it helps.

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no. i haven't the source code. but fab told you all..
try to compile it.. and prepare a barrell of coffee...

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I have no linux box at moment , and more of it i have no skills with MUI coding at all. Maybe after i will fix LunaPaint (which is MUI based) , then i will know more about, but for now, it will be no make sense even to try to compile it ..

I also ask fab about "maybe better to rip-off download manager code and put to os4 version of owb", but , i forget that aos4 version are reaction based, and dunno can we mix reaction and mui in one program.

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@afxgroup

Really, you have a good experience with cross compiling, if possible please give an hand to kas1e or another motivated coder

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Well mixing Reaction with MUI would be terrible IMHO, also it seems that Joerg doesn't like download managers or similar so how could you integrate one on it ?

Seriuosly if one decide to port somethings from Fab it is logic to port the complete package

.. well IMHO as always ..

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If it only was that easy,then i would have added a dl manager ages ago.
The problem is setting up the compiler on the pc. A real pain in the ass. And getting the whole owb compiling and starting. Haven't looked at the code,but adding the dl manager would seem as the least problem.

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start to download MOS source code and install a cross compiler...

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If only there was an adequate, skilled and motivated coder, morphos's version of OWB already should be on aos4 :) I just can't understand, how joerg can say in clear mind, that download manager its not important for browser today. For me its something far from adequate (but that is only imho of course, everyone do what want to do, and better have that OWB which we have now, if compared with not having it at all). Also while i read all that answer about "NPAPI, there but i not enable it, because balblabal", also point in mind that there will be some problems related to it too ..

So, for me, morphos version of OWB on aos4 will be better not only because of current differences (which already huge), but also because Fab are pretty good man , without star fever and it always easy to communicate and talk with him.

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Taken from the owb 3.29 thread.

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I've implemented the AmigaOS 4.x parts of the plugin support in OWB, there are just no AmigaOS 4.x NPAPI plugins yet.



NPAPI is enabled and ready for use it seems like.

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NPAPI is enabled and ready for use it seems like.


Still, we all imho want the same OWB on aos4 as MOS users have. I used it yesterday on my mos2.5, and it's really mature enough already. AOS4 one looks in compare are "empty".

Who will do the work ?:)

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Afxgroup can make the gnash plugin. Not sure about the dl manager. With those 2 things it would be alot better. Not sure about the html5. But that could be taken from the mos version???

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If only there was an adequate, skilled and motivated coder, morphos's version of OWB already should be on aos4 :)


Yes, moreever if there were less red fanatics againts anythings MUI related ...

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just can't understand, how joerg can say in clear mind, that download manager its not important for browser today.


Never mind, also you can't save a page decently, you can't open even a simple popup window, you can't manage a bookmark, you can't show an history, you can't do pratically anythings on OWB Reaction ...

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but also because Fab are pretty good man , without star fever and it always easy to communicate and talk with him.


Yes I have to agree ...

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i can do nothing since i cannot compile OWB anymore and so i cannot test the plugin for example.

OS4 sources version lacks the CMake AmigaOS4 that one day was there..
MOS sources maybe could be simply to compile (as Fab said) if you use MorphOS as platform but of course needs a lot of time to change the os4 part and for bugfixing and i have no time at all.

It is possible that there is no one that want to try to compile it?

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Why has this file been removed??


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i can do nothing since i cannot compile OWB anymore and so i cannot test the plugin for example.

OS4 sources version lacks the CMake AmigaOS4 that one day was there..

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because OWB has changed revision. And while i was using CMake with cross compiler, Joerg has always produced the and used the standard Makefiles and has compiled OWB on OS4 and so he has never patched CMakeLists.txt to add OS4 platofrms to it

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Afternoon all!

I am sure OWB is great and everything, but lets not lose sight of Timberwolf being around the corner. I am fairly sure the author of OWB must be thinking 'is it really worth me developing OWB any further with the world's most popular browser arriving shortly on the Amiga platform?'

Sure alternative software is great on any platform, but I am sure FireFox is well beyond anything previous released.

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TimberWolf in current release absolutly unsuable, and even OS4 version of OWB are better than TW, in terms of speed, stability and alt. When TW will be stable, and without such very visibly bugs (like wrong rendering of menus at all), then, we can be happy, but not now.

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It is possible that there is no one that want to try to compile it?

For me everything points on MUI knowlege. I know nothing about. But still, maybe will be better to try to compile, and post all the problems to forum, and step by step it can be done..

Did you have your linux+crosscompiler setup native, or over vmware/etc ?

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