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Re: x1000 documentation and other x1000 related questions
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@trixie

At this point, it's a clear no. It's a matter of mentality.
The community has to sort out its issues with "Entitled progress versus real progress" before I will make any further significant contributions. If this statement is unclear then check my older posts to find out what I mean with this

But also, while the hdaudio driver licence explicitly forbids any commercial use without my written permission, there is already one shop (that I know of) which ships their Amigaone X5k with an HDaudio card installed. And points to my driver on Os4depot from their webshop without even bothering to contact me. The funny fact is that I do not intend to prevent any commercial use, I just want to control commercial use. But that ship has now sailed for this webshop.

Note to myself: I have to read the books first to see if this behaviour was the true meaning of the title "From Vultures to Vampires"


Edited by geennaam on 2022/12/2 12:32:52
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@geennaam

Since you mentioned the documentation. There is a Todo section:
Todo:

- Support for Digital Inputs (Both Optical and RCA)
- Create Docky
- Extend features of hdmixer
- Create Installion Script

Personally, I would be very happy with support Docky. Is there a chance that You realize this feature?

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@kas1e:

So I have now tryed the ISO from the Install CD on the CFCard which is plugged into the old IDE port. As expected, it does not work after all.

This error message appears.
Unknown files system on disk /pxp@0,e000000/pci@11/pci@14,1/ide0.0

So I had in the past only written the amigaboot.of and the Kickstart things to the CFCard in the IDE Port, which is set up with FFS.
(Because my Sata and CFCard port was defective and therfore not able to find an amigaboot.of on SSD/HD. Only on the CD and IDE Port i was able to boot then.

So also no ISO boot from the port. At least with an iso on a cfcard in an ide2cf adapter here.

EDIT: In cfe it is possible to display the dir with -fs=iso but amigaboot fails.

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That bad .. But at least we tried :)

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Re: x1000 documentation and other x1000 related questions
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@LiveForIt

I wrote: Quote:
But if it helps, I believe you can use an external USB-connected CD-ROM drive.

You responded: Quote:
I'm pritty sure you can't
Sorry, I forgot we were talking about X1000/CFE. You're right. I remembered it working on Sam460, among others.

Best regards,

Niels

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@geennaam

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In my limited experience with the amiga platform, it's the amiga side that is the issue. There is a notorious lack of information of how things are done.


I'm sure you know os4coding.net is proof of that. It used to be in the autodoc books and RKMs. Then ADCD. The wiki has some of those but perhaps not all. I think examples are lacking in all areas. Recently I wanted to program an OS3 ExtSprite. Read the API functions and was still blank as to how I simply set a sprite image, turn it, off and change images. These are fundamental steps but I didn't see it mentioned!

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It starts with a simple explaination of how to write an aos4 device in the first place. All explaining and example code assumes a certain level of amiga coding knowledge which amiga coding noobs like me don't have.


That's a reasonable assumption. Did you volunteer or did they ask you? If you aren't familiar with Amiga coding let alone device drivers which are rather low level code why would they ask you?

This is the problem with the Amiga scene. A friend offered his help in beta testing code as he has experience with beta testing in the real world and they said no. No wonder OS4 is going down the crapper.

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Then there's the lack of information of which commands needs to be implemented for a certain type of device.


For network there would be the extra SANA commands as well as base device commands.

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So I have to create a dummy driver first to probe which commands are called by applications and other components before I can get started. (Inventing the wheel)


There should already have been reference sources given with existing network drivers.

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Then I will not only face all of the problems described above. But in addition also face the issues that I do not own a X1000 and don't have access the required documentation for the PAsemi processor (probably NDA material which is only available the Hyperion, a-eon and kernel developers). So this will be a no-go.


Did you own an X1000 before you started?

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In my opinion, this is not the responsibility of third party driver developers but instead should be part of the SDK documentation.


Absolutely.

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Are you saying that you never-ever have this "[HELO][DRAM]" stop booting after reset of x1000 ? I just have this issue, and Raziel too, and it sounds like everyone have it ?

I vaguely remember seeing that at some point in the past (perhaps when I was having boot problems due to a depleted backup battery), but in normal use I never have that problem.

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kas1e wrote:@sailor
Can you post plz exactly information about your memory modules (full chip info, etc), and how much of them and in which ports, etc ,etc with which you have no such issue ?


I have pair of this:
Here.

Is is pair for dual channel, works stable.
Two pairs not works for me.

Sorry, the RAM coolers are saeled, so I cannot post a picture of chips.


Edited by sailor on 2022/12/3 13:51:13
Edited by sailor on 2022/12/3 14:00:55
AmigaOS: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Are there preferred memory slots to fill in special order? I have 2 sticks, I think are 2GB each.

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@billt

X1000's CPU have two memory controllers.
If you have two identical sticks, place them symmetrically:

empty - RAM - CPU - RAM - empty
this allows interleaving of controllers, i.e. it is faster.

RAM - empty - CPU - empty - RAM
this probably have the same effect

if you have different modules, place them this way:

empty - empty - CPU - RAM1 - RAM2
it should work, but with no interleaving, using only one memory controller.


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AmigaOS: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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I have USB into the indicated keyboard USB connector on nemo motherboard, but am not sure how well things are working at moment.

I do get display on hdmi monitor, which is good sign. Git the x1000 logo, now I see some device info such as ATI framebuffer enable, IDE things, memory used by CFE and USB things, like text in a DOS sort of thing.

Here it stops.

The USB is from a KVM and has both keyboard and mouse in same port, but is the one indicated for keyboard.

So, I'm happy it's alive-ish, as I had to remove and replace a PCIe slot that was broken when I received this thing. But isn't obviously usable yet.

I did get 2 hdds with this system, and perhaps I connect to wrong one at the moment, I don't have enough sata cables to go around, and don't want to scavenge from original case. (using a rackmount case)

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And after that initial boot, I had a second boot that showed logo but got into a loop like someone else described somewhere. I checked my battery and it's 3 volts, not dead like the other person's description I saw and solved with new battery that had power in it. And now, I get nothing visible at all, screen does not indicate has any signal.

The serial cable is still in original case, tonight I'll get that out and find a USB-serial thing to use with it and see if that says anything.

I get 2 LEDs now, I believe there were 3 when I was getting the firmware x1000 logo. I saw 3 last time and then it went to two, I'll have to look what those mean as well. A bit less excited than I was when I saw the logo, but still optimistic for this thing...

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@billt
Nemo Technical Reference Manual - check your LEDs here:

LED1 0805, red general power supply fault
LED2 0805, red CPU core supply fault
LED3 0805, red SB600 power good (PLD controlled)
LED4 0805, red CPU power good (PLD controlled)
LED5 0805, red SB600 running (PLD controlled)
LED6 0805, red local bus LED register (PLD controlled)

AmigaOS: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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When I get the boot logo, then the 3 on LEDs are led2, led3, led4, so both CPU core power fault and CPU power good. Does that make sense?

When it doesn't seem to do anything at all, I have on LED2 and LED3.

I am using a Corsair RM850X power supply, which is brand-new, not pulled from something else. A Power Supply tester does show it is good.

I will try with original case power supply as well this weekend.

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@billt

Hi, just to help a little this is a video of my X1000 LEDS from power on to WB loading. Kinda boring as it is just the same three LEDs the whole time.




AmigaOne X1000.
Radeon RX550

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It does much the same in the original case and power supply. But I may have misread some LEDs earlier, it's hard to see clearly as they are so bright, and I cannot get a good picture like ddni showed in his video, it's just a big bright blur on my cellphone.

Serial output I get hex 00 FF and nothing else.

If I power on now, I get two LEDs - 2 and 3.

If I wait some time between, then I might get 3 LEDs on - 3, 4, 5, at least for a moment before it changes to two on 2 and 3.

The 3, 4, 5 I think I previously misread as 2, 3, 4...


P.S. Even on those earlier attempts that did show a boot logo, I never did see any menu or prompt or anything, only the logo, if this means anything. I haven't seen that for several attempts now. :/


Edited by billt on 2023/1/7 3:38:22
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@billt

According to the list sailor posted LED2 is CPU core supply fault. Do you know if the CPU has been tampered with in any way? Or even fan removed for cleaning? By the looks of it the CPU is not being powered correctly. I don't know if any other power lines exist on the board. Or CPU jumpers. Or if the power socket could have an issue even if PSU is fine. But it indicates the CPU doesn't have proper power. Possible also that any faulty cards plugged in could cause it.

You have a serial cable working. I'd say the next step is strip it down. Pull any cards out. Test. Pull drives. Test. Then pull all cards including ram with only PSU and serial hooked up. Test. You should at least see debug output with CFE complaining about missing items.

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@billt

Disconnect any sata drive and see if you've got the CFE complaining about Low memory.
Then reconnect them and try to start again.

On serial, if well configured (speed set to 115200 bps), you should see something like this if all goes well:
[RELO][L1CF][GOLO][GOT ][ZBSS][INIT][MAIN][KMEM][EXCP][CONS][CIOK][AREN][PCIH][PCIB][PCIS][DEVI]

CFE version PAS-2.0.30 for NEMO (64bit,MP,BE,PPC)
Build DateFri Jun  8 16:04:49 CEST 2012 (hfrieden@jumpgate)
Copyright (C2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005 Broadcom Corporation.
Portions Copyright (C2005-2008 PA SemiInc.
Portions Copyright (C2010 Hyperion Entertainment CVBA

...

ATAPI unit 0Optical Drive"TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-222AB"
IDE unit 1Disk"WDC WD10EARS-00MVWB0"Capacity:931GB (lba48)

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