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OWB better than FireFox!
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OWB does the Acid3 test completely. No more "Linktest failed".
It is ahead of Chrome and Firefox!!!

Jorg/Sandlabs you are wizards!


Edited by Elwood on 2009/6/23 21:15:17
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And here is a grab for illustration :
http://yfrog.com/0qacidwj

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Still some bits left till rendering is perfect, but wow - it's come a long way!

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100/100 points are really good, but does it *really* pass the whole test? I didn't check, so I'm asking..

For really passing the test, not only 100/100 points have to be reached, but also the animation as to be smooth and the final picture has to be pixel by pixel identical to the reference picture.

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100/100 points are really good, but does it *really* pass the whole test? I didn't check, so I'm asking..

For really passing the test, not only 100/100 points have to be reached, but also the animation as to be smooth and the final picture has to be pixel by pixel identical to the reference picture.


Well the animation was pretty smooth last time I ran the check (this was on my SAM).

The result isn't identical to the reference picture though. For one thing there's that red X thing in the top right corner which shouldn't be there and also the "Acid3" is in red while it should be in black. Otherwise the result is identical as far as I can tell.

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It is ahead of Chrome and Firefox!!!

Jorg/Sandlabs you are wizards!


This is about WebKit (and its graphics/fonts/... backends) being compliant... Sandlabs or OWB porters don't have much to do with that result, actually (IIRC the only fix I had to do to reach 100 was to fix the base64 decoder).

And Chrome or safari should also reach 100 anyway. Also, this doesn't cover the whole browser compliance. WebKit is often tested against this acid3 test, but in the meanwhile, it also fails to render properly many other things (often more simple).

And at last, for the user experience, I'd say it's way preferrable to have a feature-rich browser reaching only 50/100 (good history support, url completion, bookmarks, dl manager, whatever) than having a feature-less very compliant browser.

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This is about WebKit (and its graphics/fonts/... backends) being compliant... Sandlabs or OWB porters don't have much to do with that result,
The AmigaOS port of OWB doesn't use one of the WebKit or OWB font implementations but an AmigaOS 4.x one I implemented myself and for example at the time I added it support for text shadow, which is required for the ACID3 test as well, it didn't exist in the other OWB font implementations yet.

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(IIRC the only fix I had to do to reach 100 was to fix the base64 decoder).
You should check again what you copied from the AmigaOS 4.x parts
(Could be that I added some of the bugfixes to the SVN outside of #if PLATFORM(AMIGAOS4) parts, though.)
There was not only one bug but 3 bugs I had to fix to get 100/100, the broken base64 decoding was only one part of it. Additionally it didn't skip non-printable chars (CR, LF, spaces, etc.) in data: URLs correctly, and it used a wrong encoding somewhere. Only after fixing all 3 bugs OWB reached 100/100 instead of 98/100 (only the Gtk port got 100/100 earlier since it's using some glib functions instead). IIRC one of these 3 bugfixes was only required in old versions and got obsolte with some WebKit merges about 6 or 9 months ago.

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Set the Environment-Variable works so far, but the certificate of my server is outdated.

Is there another Env-Variable to ignore SSL certificate?

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The AmigaOS port of OWB doesn't use one of the WebKit or OWB font implementations but an AmigaOS 4.x one I implemented myself and for example at the time I added it support for text shadow, which is required for the ACID3 test as well, it didn't exist in the other OWB font implementations yet.

Thus we can say "our" OWB is better. Thanks

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No, since the current cairo font backend and gtk port in general handles all that just fine.

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Thus we can say "our" OWB is better. Thanks


Too right Elwood... btw, did you hear something? guess it was the mice... LOL

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great news..looking forward to trying OWB on my new Sam flex system soon

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I dont agree with the statement "OWB is better than firefox". You can not compare the two together.

I actually find owb annoying and sluggish.

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Try running FireFox on a 667 Mhz PC. Better comparison: try using Safari or FireFox on 700 Mhz PowerMac and tell me it's not sluggish and annoying (and remember that the G3 havec L2 cache, which the 440ep doesn't).

You could tell me : yes, but Ibrowse is fatser. Yes, Lynx too (under Linux on a slow computer) but you cannot do all what you do with a recent browser.

Whatever, since the coming of OWB, I must confess that I never turn on the Linux PC I als own.

I'm pretty sure that thanks to OWB, stats regarding AmigaOS as Operating System used to surf the web must have increased.

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who cares about the acid test but web nerdy devs ?

public cares about flash, download manager, FEATURES.

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...I'm pretty sure that thanks to OWB, stats regarding AmigaOS as Operating System used to surf the web must have increased.


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This is exactly why I even did a movie to show it.
Spread the url around you :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SyQgG151lE

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My Firefox 3.5.2 get 93 of 100 on the test.
It seems the fifth cube gets gray instead of blue, otherwise
it's perfect.

The OWB test seems to get 100 of 100 but fails to get the
Acid3 logo in its correct color, black.

Is this a bug in OWB or the Amiga version Joerg?

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Is the snapshot Murakami provided the latest release?
In that case you can ignore the GUI request I PMed you

It looks way nicer with the adress/search inputs horisontally
centered to the toolbar. Or was this always there,
configurable? I requested it because I saw an older
screenshot of them not centered..
Anyway a mute request now I see.. Nice work!

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Well, I'll be really happy when OWB works fine in Facebook (Amigans.net has a facebook page) and we get GNASH.

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