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Re: AutoDocViewer 1.4 - wrong password and email not delivered?
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Solved by Orgin, thanks!

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AutoDocViewer 1.4 - wrong password and email not delivered?
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Hey!

I recently uploaded a new version of AutoDocViewer, which still hangs in the upload queue. I just wonder, if my upload/replace password was wrong and that is why it is still pending, because I didn't get any confirmation mail of any sort about a wrong password ..

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Re: Null-modem cable for X5000
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Sure, any ordinary 9 pin null-modem cable works. As of the USB adaptor, I'm using a similar one on my Mac.

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Re: need clarify about libdl and all dlopen/dlclose calls
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@kas1e

Ok, what you then probably want is to install http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... nt/library/misc/libdl.lha in your SDK.

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Re: need clarify about libdl and all dlopen/dlclose calls
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libdl is for using functions from shared object libraries. libdl itself is a shared object, which is why you can't find it in the SDK. It resides in SYS:SObjs/

To make use of it, you have to use the linker option -use-dynld, then you can pass -ldl and use its functions.

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Re: How to change the window title bar background
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You have to remove the bitmap from Prefs/GUI->Styles. If that is set, it overrides the rest. Afterwards, you can change the window border colours as you wish.

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Re: Bug with Window Gadgets?
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1. Is it required to remove your gadget or gadget list before changing gadget attributes and then add them back after the change?


No, as long as the attribute has applicability OM_SET. As it is implementation specific, you have to check the corresponding AutoDoc for each case.

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2. When I do the above I get problem of the Front to back window gadget swaping places with the Resize gadget. Any idea why this happens?


I was about to write I didn't see this before, but now I see your mistake. You are removing the whole Gadget list from the window, which is NOT what you want. Your gadgets[GID_MAIN] is actually a layout_gc, which you gave to window_cl by using WINDOW_ParentLayout tag.

What you want to do instead, is to tell window_cl to remove the layout and later add the layout again. Something like this (somewhat Pseudocode):

/* Remove the layout from the window object */
SetAttrs(objects[OID_MAIN], WINDOW_LayoutNULLTAG_DONE);

...

/* Add the layout to the window object again */
SetAttrs(objects[OID_MAIN], WINDOW_Layoutgadgets[GID_MAIN], TAG_DONE);


Edited by Cyborg on 2022/4/7 10:22:11
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Re: AmigaStore
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Ah, did you buy via the "AMIStore" application maybe? Because that is ran by A-EON ... the original developers of AmiPhoto ran a webstore called "www.amiga-store.net", which is why I might have got confused.

The original developers (Simon/Alinea/www.amiga-store.net) are very reliable and react to orders (and complaints) almost immediately. He didn't know about any issue, so very likely you were talking about "AMIStore" actually, hence you have to wait for Matthew Leaman/A-EON/AmigaKit to react to your complaint.

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Re: AmigaStore
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The guys from Alinea are usually very reliable. I take it, you did already check your spam for the registration mail?

I'll notify Simon about your issue (he doesn't usually read English forums), I'm sure, he will help you asap.

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Re: Are AmigaKit still selling X5000 machines?
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@ joerg

As I never saw your contract, I obviously can't judge your assertions. Why didn't you just get in touch with Tim or myself while we were in charge to try to clarify and maybe even remedy the situation? Instead you removed code from the SVN way beyond what you might have rights to without any notice and went silent for the last 7 or so years .. as I said, we tried to remedy every dispute as much as we could, but this doesn't work one way and when I asked you specifically about PartitionWizard, you clearly told me you have no interest in clarifying the situation and didn't even mention other things. So you had all means to get this resolved together with us. You've opted against it and instead complain now after years again in forums.

Looking at the CDFS log shows that you contributed lots of work, but contrary to what you say, there were - besides the original 3.1 CDFS base code of course - quite some additions and changes done by others .. Olaf, Fredrick, Sebastian, even myself and others. Thats why I said, it is not simply a matter of black and white and you oversimplify things if you make it look like that.

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4.1 FE was released about 6 months after I revoked all AmigaOS 4.x licences


Interesting... when I suggested Final Edition to the principal shareholder and "managing partner" back then (who is in charge now again), I was not told about any license issues. I was only a developer back then and license issues of Hyperions product were not part of my job description anyway, so I did Final Edition. Afterwards, when I got basically forced to become a Hyperion director to prevent it from going bankrupt, the previous "managing partner" was still the principal shareholder and legal counsel, who got consulted about everything. Nothing even remotely contractual related was done by Tim or me without the clear OK from the legal counsel. So obviously, there exists totally different understandings of the contracts.

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Re: AmiUpdate connection error
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@Chris
Correct and I notified Rigo about it (as some others maybe as well), but the thread starter had a typo in his URL and that was actually what I reacted to initially before checking the actual reachability.

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Re: Amigans.net 2022 updates
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Yes, working fine again, thanks :)

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Re: Are AmigaKit still selling X5000 machines?
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Hi Jörg,

first, nice to see you again after all those years. Hope you are fine!

We agree on many things you are saying here and on others we don't. I do not want to start defending what Hyperion with its principal shareholder did and not did. That would be ridiculous. But some points you raise are just overly simplified and thus misleading.

For example, there is the concept of a "legal successor". Only by changing the company form does not automatically nullify existing contracts, rights and duties. In my limited legal understanding, this is the same for Belgium as it is e.g. in Germany. According to your statements, you seem to believe this is not the case and everything became void as soon as Hyperion changed its company form. Can you share information this is based on?

Also, as you say yourself, for many components of the OS the legal situation is not easy at all as many people contributed to them over the years. CDFS is one example where you contributed big chunks, but where others contributed as well and all that on a basis, which Hyperion clearly had the rights for, which makes it even more complicated. And you are right, proper contracts with the developers, which stipulate proper licenses and compensations if desired would have made everybody's life so much easier and prevented so much nonsense, irritation, disputes and bad blood in the first place. But this built up since Hyperion started AmigaOS development in 2001.

After Tim and myself took over management in early 2015, we worked very hard on putting AmigaOS development on stronger feet also by ironing out as many legal and contractual issues as possible. We payed out more money to developers than was done the 15 years before (mainly from the income of the "illegal AmigaOS 4.1 FE compilation" as you call it) even if it was not nearly enough, we set up and signed new contracts (like a default developer agreement to avoid exactly said legal issues with contributions) and we also tried to settle the disputes we've inherited from the 15 years before. Unfortunately, some developers just went ahead and sold their stuff to other parties, before we've got a chance to intervene and for others there was already too much bad blood, that serious discussion was next to impossible as long as certain people were still be involved in Hyperion in some form or another. For example, I remember also asking you how much would be needed to get everything resolved, but your answer was clear in that money would not solve it. It was tried hard to minimise the impact of this "other reason", but in the end, after doing a second, non-paid full-time job at Hyperion for about 3 years, Tim and myself were beat by tricks a normal human being would never think of and had to give back control again, disillusioned, frustrated and also just tired of it. Was it our own fault? Up to some extend, definitely. We listened to wrong advice and idiotically, we could not nearly imagine, what people are willing to do way beyond all common sense to reach their own purely selfish agenda.

You propose everybody to go to A-EON? Just let me say that A-EON also had and has its parts in the whole story and the mileage with what and how they treated their "partners" - be it individuals or companies - may and does quite vary. Its just not as widely known/accepted as people like black/white more than several greys. Your experience was obviously perfect, others' has not have been so perfect.


Again, I'm not trying to defend Hyperion nor excuse everything Tim and myself did. We also made mistakes we regret, but contrary to others we can wholeheartedly tell you (and prove with our doings) our mission always has been solely the well of AmigaOS and its developers. What I'm trying to say with this long post is simply that things just are not as black and white as you (and others) often make them look like. There are wide parts of consensus between you an me, but details do matter a lot in this whole drama.

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Re: Are AmigaKit still selling X5000 machines?
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Sure, may well be the case .. IF you can get an X5000 at all that is. I heard from a couple of people trying since months to no avail with or without AmigaOS.

If OS4 for X5000 will be sold separately or not is the decision of Hyperion management, which I left quite some time ago as you know.

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Re: Amigans.net 2022 updates
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@walkero
I noticed my signature, albeit configured since ever, does not show up on new posts of mine. As I did not change anything in my settings, maybe this is a bug in the new site software?

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Re: Are AmigaKit still selling X5000 machines?
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@kas1e

The point is, that OS4 for X5000 never was and as of today still not is available separately from anywhere AFAIK ... at least it was that way back when I was still in management. It was always part of a X5000 purchase. As A-EON/ML stated to amiga-news, they don't have any licenses anymore, so even if they would sell new X5000, the customer would be on his own without AmigaOS. The only options left would be Linux or MorphOS.

So, if dealers are selling X5000 including an AmigaOS 4 license, then those machines very likely stem from the time the OEM contract between A-EON and Hyperion was still in effect ... "new old stock" so to speak, which isn't bad at all. I appreciate every way to get hardware and AmigaOS 4 to the people.


@Antique

Three! What on earth are you doing with three of them? :D


Edited by Cyborg on 2022/3/26 9:27:56
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Re: AmiUpdate connection error
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The correct host is
amiupdate.net
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Re: Anyone use WebDAV and want to test new handler?
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hmm .. so do I need to wait for webdav-handler or can I mount my WebDAV share with the http-handler as well? If the latter, what is the point in webdav-handler anyway?

Sorry, I'm a bit confused now about the purpose of those.

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Re: Anyone use WebDAV and want to test new handler?
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Ahh... there it is!

I was only looking at Open Amiga, saw the beta flags and didn't know it was released for all this years! :o

Well, great! I'll give it a spin tomorrow... need to do some BBQ now :)


Thanks!

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Re: Anyone use WebDAV and want to test new handler?
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Are there any news about this? The last beta is 2 years ago, but I saw in the SVN log something about a v1 release commit in March this year?

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