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PEB

Posted on: 2008/3/1 5:38 #1

Not too shy to talk

Check out the new version.

(It's got scroll bars now.)

Thanks Joerg!

Edited by PEB on 2008/3/1 19:44:17

Akiko

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 6:14 #2

Just popping in

As a CSPPC user I'm disappointed to read it now needs a whopping 256Mb of Ram.

I guess it's back to IBrowse for me

But well done on continuing development of this much needed OS4 application.

Antique

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 11:11 #3

Home away from home

Getting better and better.

But i have a problem with one of my main sites.

www.bmwccn.no

X5000

nubechecorre

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 11:18 #4

Just can't stay away

I read that it uses more memory and more ram.. there would be the possibility in the future to use less memory and better speed ?

LiveForIt

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 11:57 #5

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Scrollbars are just the thing I was waiting for, looks relay nice, i think OWB is faster for ever update.

But way does the browser not use the OS4 memory allocator?

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Swoop

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 12:06 #6

Quite a regular

@joerg

Looking good, I like the scroll bar, but I am having problems with posting messages.

Posting a reply, I used the quote button, and then wanted to edit the quote. i.e. ad the bold tags and delete the non-relevant part. For clarity, at this point the scrollbar is at the top.
Every time I tried to delete or backspace the scrollbar moved downwards, and the OWB window was corrupted. If I moved the scroll bar back to the top, the graphics sorted themselves out, and the correct number of characters had been deleted. Also a similar story with drag and select.
Looks like something silly, not that I'd really know I'm no programmer.

Anyway overall it's looking good, but I thought I would report the above.

Peter Swallow

Eyetech A1XE-G3 800Mhz OS4.1
Towered A1200 OS3.9

poweramiga

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 12:12 #7

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@Swoop

im posting from OWB 1.14 :) looking good very good

same problem here with gfx move scroll bar and all is fine till i type again etc
just noticed the output window says font family 'Veranda' not found
wonder if thats the problem ?

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Swoop

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 12:59 #8

Quite a regular

@poweramiga

Quote:

just noticed the output window says font family 'Veranda' not found
wonder if thats the problem ?

I have that font installed, (look in your Fonts/_Truetype directory) and I have the same problem as you.

I did get the following, in the OWB shell window:-
Quote:

of expression $get) is not object.
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented

But this was after playing around with v1.14, particularly on the maps.live site joerg mentioned in the readme, and I had exited. So I was not 100% sure where the error message came from.

.

Peter Swallow

Eyetech A1XE-G3 800Mhz OS4.1
Towered A1200 OS3.9

K-L

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 13:03 #9

Just can't stay away

I cannot use AmiUpdate to update OWB:

12:52:48 Starting update of 'OWB_AU.lha'

12:52:48 Requesting HTTP header file from server...

12:52:48 Trying to connect to: strohmayer.org on port: 80

12:52:48 Connected

12:52:48 Received HTTP header file...

12:52:48 Redirection required, following link....

12:52:48 Retrying with redirected URL...

12:52:48 Requesting HTTP header file from server...

12:52:48 Trying to connect to: strohmayer.org on port: 80

12:52:48 Connected

12:52:48 Received HTTP header file...

12:52:48 Redirection required, following link....

12:52:48 Retrying with redirected URL...

12:52:48 Requesting HTTP header file from server...

12:52:50 Failed to establish connection to: strohmayer.org.nyud.net:8080

12:52:50 Failed to receive HTTP header file...

12:52:50 Starting file download (unknown size )

12:52:52 Failed to establish connection to: strohmayer.org.nyud.net:8080

12:52:52 HTTPGet() failed

12:52:52 Error returned from downloading file 'OWB_1.14_AU.lha': 6

I will test again later

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RuDeE

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 13:17 #10

Just popping in

Has anyone tested it on classic yet?

nubechecorre

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 13:32 #11

Just can't stay away

I have too problem when trying to post a message.. when i hit a key on the keyboard the page scrool down.. or jump to another part of the page like if i hit the "tab" key..

Framiga

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 13:43 #12

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@Akiko

Quote:

Akiko wrote:
As a CSPPC user I'm disappointed to read it now needs a whopping 256Mb of Ram.

I guess it's back to IBrowse for me

But well done on continuing development of this much needed OS4 application.

erm! ... are you saying that you were using OWB on Classic for everyday browsing?

poweramiga

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 13:50 #13

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@Swoop

I didnt have them installed so installed them from core fonts
Was worse than ever so deleted all my fonts used my back up fonts
Now everything is working properly posting with 1.14 now no error anymore

:)

Amiga is the heart and soul of computing nothing else comes close

Framiga

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 14:01 #14

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@Framiga

weird! this version is much faster and eats much less memory than the previous one.

Useable on Classic. Posting with OWB 1.14

and it doesn't crash anymore here on amigas.net

theres sstill the problem editing the messages

poweramiga

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 14:18 #15

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@Framiga

I also recon its faster just been testing it against Ibrowse its loading faster than Ibrowse now
As for memory im not sure how much its using as i have 1 gig never really look at that

Amiga is the heart and soul of computing nothing else comes close

Chris

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 14:39 #16

Amigans Defender

Quote:

Swoop wrote:

Looking good, I like the scroll bar, but I am having problems with posting messages.

Every time I tried to delete or backspace the scrollbar moved downwards, and the OWB window was corrupted. If I moved the scroll bar back to the top, the graphics sorted themselves out, and the correct number of characters had been deleted. Also a similar story with drag and select.
Looks like something silly, not that I'd really know I'm no programmer.

It appears that if the OWB window is scrolled anywhere other than right at the top, whenever you try to type in a form the above occurs. I've had each character displaying above the previous one, as if the window thinks it has been scrolled. I'm typing this in OWB now, with it scrolled right to the top and it is typing out perfectly. Move it a few pixels and the window starts scrolling down to the bottom on every character!

I was having problems with this on the previous version too, so I don't think it is related to the new scrollbars (which are very welcome).

Chris

joerg

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 14:42 #17

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@LiveForIt

Quote:

But way does the browser not use the OS4 memory allocator?

Because OWB needs 512 MB RAM, or even more, with the public version of newlib.library. OWB 1.14 uses the one from the current beta versions, just statically linked into the OWB executable (it's still based on the same dlmalloc, just using different parameters).

The one I used in my previous versions of OWB was of course based on AmigaOS4 memory allocators as well, 17 ItemPools and 2 MemoryPools, and especially the ItemPools are very fast with a very low overhead, but because of the memory trashing bugs in OWB there were too much problems, with the dlmalloc based memory allocator the OWB bugs seem to cause much less crashes.

joerg

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 15:14 #18

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@Swoop

Quote:

Swoop wrote:
@poweramiga

Quote:
just noticed the output window says font family 'Veranda' not found
wonder if thats the problem ?
I have that font installed, (look in your Fonts/_Truetype directory) and I have the same problem as you.

You may have Verdana, but I very much doubt you have a "Veranda" font installed

Probably a typo on a webpage.

Missing fonts are no problem, as long as the DejaVu ones included in OS4 are complete.

Quote:

I did get the following, in the OWB shell window:-
Quote:
of expression $get) is not object.

Javascript bug on the web page, or using a feature not supported by OWB.

Quote:

Quote:
const WebCore::Cursor& WebCore::columnResizeCursor() not implemented

I haven't implemented all mouse pointers for OWB yet, they are included in the sources, but I have to convert them from 32 bit PNG images to 2 colour XBM ones.

Quote:

But this was after playing around with v1.14, particularly on the maps.live site joerg mentioned in the readme, and I had exited. So I was not 100% sure where the error message came from.

On maps.live.de you can resize the map (make the text part on the left side smaller, but only with other browsers anyway), for that the columnResizeCursor would be used. It's no problem if the special cursors are missing, you just don't get a different mouse pointer for such things yet.

joerg

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 15:23 #19

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@nubechecorre

Quote:

I read that it uses more memory and more ram.. there would be the possibility in the future to use less memory and better speed ?

No. Since OWB renders the complete pages for example the last posts page here needs about 30 MB RAM, and that's just for the empty page without any text or graphics on it.

The only way would be to implement for example a special 16 bit graphics format (AAAARRRRGGGGBBBB, i.e. 4096 coulors with 16 alpha levels) instead of using 32 bit, but I'd have to implement all graphics functions for such a format and it would very likely look very ugly ...

LiveForIt

Re: Version 1.14 is Now Available

Posted on: 2008/3/1 15:41 #20

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@joerg

What can be done is to create vector based image of web content, that way you can render only the visual parts, saving lots of mb of bitmap memory.

Edited by LiveForIt on 2008/3/1 19:32:22

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