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Re: OS4 UPDAAAATEE !!! BANANA !!
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Hmm, thanks

I still have problems with this Notifications though.

1) Every time i use NOTIFY ans NOTIFYA instead of RINGHIO it doesn't seem to respect the Notification prefs setting.
Is there a prefs program i haven't found yet?



Yes it's part of GUI prefs, which didn't get updated (not sure why exactly, but there was a reason for it IIUC rather simply being overlooked)

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2) The dark blue to light blue looks amazing, where i can change the gradient?


The Notifications tab of GUI prefs gives a range of coloured themes, but not ultra fine control.

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3) THE command s eem to hvae changed, my scripts don't work as expected


See SYS:Documentation/Notifications/Notification_Arexx_interface.doc

They may have, I'm not sure, the builtin version is intended to be acut down version, for more features see the aeon produced Notification Server.

In a script you should be about to test for RINGHIO and or NOTIFYA and use whichever is available.

Curiously scripts get access to either server, where binaries working through application.library get redirected to Notification Server (RingHIO) if running or builtin if not.




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Re: OS4 UPDAAAATEE !!! BANANA !!
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I'd rather use one and not mix the two.

Would love to use the gradient one, but i need PERCENTAGE, so...

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Nope, it's a complete mess.

If i remove NotificationServer from WBStartup and solely use RinghioServer instead, my scripts come up as solid white rectangles (and produce error beeps but no text/imgaes) while AmiUpdate still comes up with the gradient.

It worked perfectly with Ringhio before...so this is a regression

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Re: OS4 UPDAAAATEE !!! BANANA !!
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How can you use RINGHIO if Notification Server is removed from startup? Notfication server is the decendent of RingHIO, you *should not* use The original RingHIO at all, it's broken.

Either

Use AEon Notification Server in WBstartup and use the RINGHIO Arexx port

Or
Remove any servers from WBStartup and use the builtin server accessed via NOTIFYA ARexx port


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I'm using the RINGHIO AREXX port in my scripts

I have "NotificationServer" and "RinghioServer" in SYS:System/

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Use AEon Notification Server in WBstartup and use the RINGHIO Arexx port

So, what now?
- Does AEon use RINGHIO as AREXX port, but "Notification" as Server?
- Does Hyperion use NOTIFY(A) as AREXX port, but "Ringhio" as Server?

It's still a mess

btw: using the RINGHIO AREXX/NotificationServer pair my scripts run, but it still refuses to show any pictures...so, still a mess

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I'm using the RINGHIO AREXX port in my scripts

I have "NotificationServer" and "RinghioServer" in SYS:System/


Delete or (move to storage if you prefer) RingHIOServer NotificationServer is it's direct replacement. (originally written by Max Tretene it was distributed with ther OS but later sold ro AEon where it was develeoped futher).

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So, what now?
- Does AEon use RINGHIO as AREXX port, but "Notification" as Server?


Someone decided to chnage the name of the executable, I don't know why, the AREXX port was kept for compatabilty.

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- Does Hyperion use NOTIFY(A) as AREXX port, but "Ringhio" as Server?


AmigaOS4 uses application.library as the server and NOTIFYA as the ARexx port (to avoid the clash with RINGHIO I guess).

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It's still a mess


Perhaps but not quite as bad as your thinking, I'll blmae my explnations for your confusion.

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btw: using the RINGHIO AREXX/NotificationServer pair my scripts run, but it still refuses to show any pictures...so, still a mess


That ought to work, but might be subject to version I did once or twice have to delete my Notification prefs and start from scratch when odd things have occured.

The latest beta is
version full file Enhancer:System/NotificationServer
NotificationServer 53.74 (08/08/2019)

I'm unsure of the release schedule for that... but I would be optimistic

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Update...

Since I did a fresh install of FE, followed by Update 1, followed by Update 2, my system seems very stable, but I have noticed a few issues.

My issues ....
- NetSurf .... connection timeouts on amiga.org
- Odyssey .... Failed to allocate RAM message
- Multiview .. hanging forbids messages

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NetSurf
I get this on amiga.org after I have scrolled through a thread and press Back button. But does not happen every time I go there.

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Odyssey
This happened a few times while I was at amigans.net. I moved the window over to the right side of the screen and was checking some stuff in the MUI drawer.

I got a requester message saying ...

OWB Fatal Error

Failed to allocate 131072 bytes.
Unfortunately, WebKit doesn't check allocations and crashes in such situation.

You can either:
- Crash ... blah blah blah ...
- Retry ... blah blah blah ...
- Quit ... blah blah blah ...

Even if I quit Odyssey, the system is compromised and I have to reset.

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Hanging forbids messages ...
Has only happened once or twice. I didn't capture the entire message. Once in Multiview and perhaps once in NotePad.
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AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2



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Amiga.org has had problems lately.

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Update...

I rolled back to kernal from Update 1 (all else is Update 2) and my issues have resolved so far.

NetSurf ... on Amiga.org ...
Now, I see the progress pointer alot (pointer with stopwatch), but it does not timeout like before.

Yes, I am aware that Amiga.org has issues. I see slow progress on NetSurf, Orygin, Odyssey and my Samsung tablet.

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I rolled back to kernal from Update 1 (all else is Update 2)

I'm afraid I'll also have to roll back to the older kernel I clean-installed OS4.1 FE, then Update 1 followed by Update 2. (For the time being I have avoided all Enhancer stuff apart from the Radeon driver and the BOOPSI classes.) But my X5000 has become noticeably less stable: it will hard-freeze more often than not, which never happened with Update 1.

I assume all I need to do is replace the contents of the Kickstart drawer?

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Yeah, just copy the older kernel over the new one in kickstart directory

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He could have both kernels installed and use the Kicklayout file to choose the one, I suppose. This could be practical for testing.

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edit:
Nevermind, the "updates" show up because MUIdev is down

I found one more "bug"

Update 2 installs MUI2020Rev3
Within this installation package are two spanish locale files, one of which is stated as deleted in AmiUpdate
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An update to the MCC_BetterString Spanish Locale files is available

** DELETED PROJECT **

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It is also available: 8.3.0. I use it for a year and build all the stuff with it => no problems.


I looked into adtools and did a test hit to get a grip on how to work with it. I bumped gcc to version 9.1 as a test. You can find a build here:

https://github.com/sodero/adtools/releases

Needless to say, it might kill you, use at your own risk. I did a test build with Vim and it seems alright but you'll never know. I'm particularily worried about the c++ parts (had to use the axe in libstdc++), but C should work.

If it works, I might try another bump or two. And create a PR for the main repo of course.

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Uhh, nice, need to test

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The latest beta is
version full file Enhancer:System/NotificationServer
NotificationServer 53.74 (08/08/2019)

I'm unsure of the release schedule for that... but I would be optimistic


For some reason (i guess because i did those tests earlier and you sent me a test version) i have that exact version installed.

And i did some more tests, because it still refuses to display any images.

Now, the strange thing is that it DOES display the picture, but ONLY if i move the mouse pointer OVER the Notification window ONCE and REMOVE it again.
Only then the window will beredrawn (the close gadget flickers shortly) and the image appears.

Needless to say it will vanish again once the Notification window was updated by my script.

Could this be because of graphics.lib changes?


Edited by Raziel on 2020/12/31 12:08:30
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I'm not sure. I've been testing with TuneNet and I just realised that displays animations if available and they are working, simple images appear not to be.

I'm using the OS application.library one most of the time, I prefer it's relative simplicity, so something may have broken when I "wasn't looking" it would need investigating, but at a random guess try reverting window.class.


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I'd love to use that too, but without a prefs editor it doesn't really appeal to me

It's not window.class, just reverted, same issues

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OK thanks for testing. I know it's not your favourite website, but could you raise a mantis on the aeon tracker and I (or someone else) will investigate when I have time.

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For you, anytime...

Easy testcase btw...just run rx_tesringhio_pbar.rexx from SYS:Documentation/Notification/

The image will not show unless i move and remove the mouse pointer from over the window

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