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msteed
Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/4 2:02    #334
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The latest version of AmigaDiskBench (v. 2.5.3) seems to have a very similar bug as Rave: When I run the program, select the Disk Info tab, and then click on "Fixed Drives/sb600sata.device" in the listview the program stops responding, along with much of the OS. (There is a recoverable DSI when I first run the program; that DSI doesn't seem related to the lockup bug.)

Like Rave, the crash happens when the program is working with ReAction gadgets, and the stack trace shows the crash occurs during a series of nested calls to the layout.gadget, followed by a call to the button.gadget. The first part of the crash log, including the general info and the register dump, seems to go missing. But what remains is enough to get an idea what was happening when the crash occurred:

Kernel command line: DEBUGLEVEL=0 SERIAL

Registers pointing to code:
r0 : native kernel module kernel+0x000375ac
r3 : native kernel module kernel+0x00009dd4
r5 : native kernel module kernel+0x0000b030
r6 : native kernel module kernel+0x00a8418c
r13: AmigaDiskBench:collapsed_buf.1()+0x5ca8 (section 14 @ 0x7F24)
r27: module DEVS:printer.device at 0x00000001 (section 0 @ 0xFFFFFFDC)
r28: native kernel module kernel+0x00a87032
r31: native kernel module kernel+0x009724f0
ip : native kernel module kernel+0x00009dbc
lr : native kernel module kernel+0x000375b4
ctr: native kernel module kernel+0x00035e60

Stack trace:
(0x5e456660) native kernel module kernel+0x00009dbc
(0x5e456690) native kernel module kernel+0x000375b4
(0x5e4566b0) native kernel module kernel+0x00033b70
(0x5e4566d0) module CLASSES:gadgets/button.gadget at 0x7FDC0234 (section 0 @ 0x3210)
(0x5e4567d0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e456820) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e4568a0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDE9394 (section 0 @ 0x4370)
(0x5e456950) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDED740 (section 0 @ 0x871C)
(0x5e456a70) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e456ac0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e456b40) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDE9394 (section 0 @ 0x4370)
(0x5e456bf0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDED740 (section 0 @ 0x871C)
(0x5e456d10) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e456d60) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e456de0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDF15B0 (section 0 @ 0xC58C)
(0x5e456e70) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e456ec0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e456f40) module CLASSES:gadgets/clicktab.gadget at 0x7FB33968 (section 0 @ 0x5944)
(0x5e457040) module CLASSES:gadgets/clicktab.gadget at 0x7FB35030 (section 0 @ 0x700C)
(0x5e4570f0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e457140) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e4571c0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDE9394 (section 0 @ 0x4370)
(0x5e457270) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDED740 (section 0 @ 0x871C)
(0x5e457390) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e4573e0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e457460) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x7FDE9FB0 (section 0 @ 0x4F8C)
(0x5e457570) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FDF5300 (section 0 @ 0x22DC)
(0x5e457590) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FDF74E8 (section 0 @ 0x44C4)
(0x5e4575f0) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x7FDFEEF8 (section 0 @ 0xBED4)
(0x5e4577c0) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x000250d4
(0x5e457810) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x00025530
(0x5e457890) native kernel module intuition.library.kmod+0x0000b3e4
(0x5e457900) AmigaDiskBench:StartGUI()+0x1294 (section 1 @ 0x6788)
(0x5e457d40) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002614
(0x5e457d90) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000032f0
(0x5e457f40) native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00003864
(0x5e457f70) AmigaDiskBench:_start()+0x1e0 (section 1 @ 0x1E0)
(0x5e457fc0) native kernel module kernel+0x0005a1a4
(0x5e457fd0) native kernel module kernel+0x0005a21c

Disassembly of crash site:
 02009dac: 7c641b78   mr                r4,r3
 02009db0: 3c600200   lis               r3,512
 02009db4: 60639dd4   ori               r3,r3,40404
 02009db8: 44000022   .word             0x44000022
>02009dbc: 4e800020   blr               
 02009dc0: 7c641b78   mr                r4,r3
 02009dc4: 3c600200   lis               r3,512
 02009dc8: 60639f3c   ori               r3,r3,40764
 02009dcc: 44000022   .word             0x44000022
 02009dd0: 4e800020   blr               
Stack pointer (0x5e456660) is inside bounds
Redzone is OK (4)

The exact code where the crash occurs is different than Rave. There are some other differences as well: unlike Rave, the crash occurs under FE Update 2, as well as under Update 3. And unlike Rave, the crash occurs even if AmigaDiskBench is run from the RAM disk. While the crash occurs most of the time, it occasionally doesn't, unlike Rave where it is always repeatable. Since I have only an X1000, I can't say if the crash only occurs on the X1000, as it does with Rave.

AmigaDiskBench isn't your responsibility, but the fact that a very similar bug occurs there is some evidence that it's not caused by your code doing anything wrong, and may in fact be a system problem of some sort. And perhaps the differences between the Rave crash and the AmigaDiskBench crash provide some clues as to where the problem lies.


Edited by msteed on 2026/3/4 2:18:35
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trixie
Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/9 19:16    #335
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With the help of Niels Bache, the X1000-only crash has been fixed for Rave 1.10.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 4:53    #336
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With the help of Niels Bache, the X1000-only crash has been fixed for Rave 1.10.

Thank to both of you!
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 5:45    #337
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...the X1000-only crash has been fixed...

With all the weird symptoms, I'm curious what the problem turned out to be.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 7:21    #338
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I'm curious what the problem turned out to be.

It was a race condition. More details in my next blog post

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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 12:42    #339
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Hi threr is another issue:
When clicking (click or click and drag) on right side border of waveform preview/gadget the apps crashes/freezes system.
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 12:58    #340
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For next release could you add support for localization?
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 15:09    #341
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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/10 22:29    #342
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When clicking (click or click and drag) on right side border of waveform preview/gadget the apps crashes/freezes system.

I tried to reproduce it, but couldn't. But I'm not sure I understand exactly where you click/drag. Can you show it in a screen grab or something?

Also, that is on a Sam460, IIRC?


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trixie
Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
Posted on: 3/11 7:03    #343
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I can't reproduce this either. However, I reviewed the waveform gadget's selection hook, and I found a situation similar to the one that caused the race condition in the Settings, so I applied the same kind of fix just to be on the safe side.
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Posted on: 3/11 17:28    #344
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See pic attached
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http://jabirulo.byethost13.com/temp/rave01.png

when click on green zone and dragging to select a "part" of (previewed) sample here it freezes.

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Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. So no, I couldn't reproduce that either.

So maybe it is/was specific for Sam460? Since we are in the murky waters of timing issues, that wouldn't be completely impossible, as it has yet another speed than the X1000 and X5000 which we tested on so far.

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trixie
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Posted on: 3/12 7:58    #346
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I'll send a test build to both of you before releasing Rave 1.10.
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ok thx
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When clicking (click or click and drag) on right side border of waveform preview/gadget the apps crashes/freezes system.

This should now be fixed too for Rave 1.10.
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Posted on: 4/5 14:18    #349
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Rave 1.10 has been released on OS4depot. I'd like to thank users who reported problems with the previous version - above all, Mike Steed, Niels Bache, and Javier de las Rivas - and helped with the testing.

As usual, there is an article on my Ko-fi blog that tells the story behind the current release. If you like what I've done and want to support my efforts, I won't say no to a coffee

Thank you, and enjoy!
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Thanks for the update.

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Thanks for another update!
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As AmigaOS 4.2 development continues, it is time to share another story from behind the scenes. Enjoy reading!
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As per usual, peeking through the Rear Window is always a great pleasure and I'm glad some insight was provided about the actual state of some component's code.
Now that the code is still fresh in your memory, maybe you could give the following a thought:
Remove the 'button'-image from the gadget altogether (tag controlled?) and turn the gadget in a series of pushbuttons, where the labels themselves form the buttons. And that in both vertical and horizontal layouts. The vertical layout becomes then more of a sticky chooser gadget.

Keep on going!

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