Why quake 3 doesn't Work ???

@poweramiga
Maybe. do you know if I can put 1 GO in my ?A1 ??

@poweramiga

I have only 512 mb RAM and works fine.

* I think it has some thing to do whit installation,
* Maybe it has some thing to do whit graphics card,
* MiniGL version issue
* Maybe the Quake3 data files are corrupted?
* Maybe you need the correct version of the Q3 data files?
* Some unknown hardware issues.

@pseudaxos

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you need the latest version (1.32) from Quake3 arena.

t as pas lu le readme, dis ???

not to mention it is also working here with A1G4+512Mo+radeon7500

since you have a uA1+radeon7000, Q3 will be slow anyway (even at 640x480).

have you tried dynamite ?

@pseudaxos

Works absolutely fine here but again I have 1G memory.

The stacksize set on the icon is a measely 4096 but I guess it uses the stack of the invoked shell, which may be larger.

Only problems I have encountered at all are it occassionally pauses. This seems to occur when there are too many sounds being played.

@Rogue
Absolutely awesome job for a quick and dirty port

@LiveForIt

As Rogue said:

>"As has been pointed out numerous times by both Thomas and me, the Quake 3 port is buggy and is "if you're lucky it runs"-ware. The source code is available, anyone is welcome to try and fix it."

Since I did the port, here's some comments:

First of all: Do NOT give me a "It doesn't work". "It doesn't work" is not enough information to even guess why it is "not working" for you.

What happens ? Crash ? What crash ? Any output on the shell ? Total freeze ? Anything in the debug buffer (DumpDebugBuffer) ?

Secondly, there might be bugs in it, but as I said numerous times before, I can play it for an hour without problems. I know there's some problem in MiniGL regarding the clip planes code (you sometimes see a "hall of mirrors" effect when looking into mirrors or portals), but that doesn't cause crashes (at least for me).

In general, Quake 3 needs a heap of memory and stack. Make you to use a very large stack, make it one or even two megabytes if you experience crashes. It won't work with 256 MB, and should work with 512. However, there's nothing in there that prevents it from cashing game resources, so I would guess that it will need more memory once you changed levels a few times, or play online with lots of people with different player models (There are options to reduce texture size, simple items and enforcement of default player models, you might want to experiment with them).

Also, make sure you're using the newest MiniGL, older version lack the required functionality.

Finally, make sure that you are using the very latest Quake 3 (I think that's 1.32), all other versions will not work.

@tfrieden
OK, il'll see. But can I put 1 GO of memory into my ?A1 to boost him ?

@pseudaxos

Yes if you find some ram that does work whit your AmigaOne, thats not easy.

Also use one module not two, AmigaOne often do not like two modules.

@TFrieden

Thanks for the tip, I now use a stack of 3000000 and Quake 3 works correctly.

There is still the random bug making the whole system hang with the sound "buzzing" and the only solution is to reboot via the button on the tower.

Execpt this annoying bug (actually, it may happen within 2 minutes or within 2 hours).

My machine: AmigaOne G3/800XE 512MB Ram and Radeon 9200Pro (128MB Ram).

Well, I say I have 512Mb RAM but if I ever go under 240MB free, AmigaOS crashes.

I'd like to find a 1GB module

@pseudaxos

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But you still didn't tell me what happens ?

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No idea, really, sorry

@madmonkey

Just a small site note that Q3 has a hardcoded stack cookie set to 1000000 bytes. Use manual stack command (or icon parameter) only if want to set more.

@Varthall

Same here, it is pretty stable for me.

ace

@poweramiga
Now, it works too on my ?A1 !
I've played it for a long time last days and...........no problem.
To continue Quake's story, i note another problem with quake1 GL. I find this game very slow some times ! Many years before, I played Quake GL on my 1200 PPC + voddo and it was faster than on ?A1 Why ?