Browservice on X1000 and Sam460LE with Odyssey 1.23

I would have gladly bought a license of IBrowse if it had Browservice support

@Joerg

The only version from you working is Odyssey 2.20 (Blastoise).

Unfortunately, this version has no tabs, scroll wheel within Browservice doesn't work and the Enter key does nothing.

And network accesses are too slow to cope with the data transfer.

I'll have a look at Remote Desktop but can we only use a browser ou this the whole remote desktop that is displayed?

@root

We have to be registered to see your link.

@white
Quote:I doubt the WinUAE x86/x64 host m68k target JIT is (much, if at all) faster than Almos' AmigaOS 4.x (Petunia) and E-UAE PPC host m68k target JIT implementations.
I guess the MorphOS Trance m68k JIT is much better than the WinUAE one as well.
But in any case PPC native code, like the one in my and Andrea's AmigaOS 4.x/PPC ports of OWB, is faster than any m68k emulation on PPC Amigas.
Odyssey is something completöy different, not a direct AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB itself at all, but at best an AROS or MorphOS port of it, with tons of limits: At best the common AmigaOS 3.1 API compatibility, but none of the AmigaOS 4.x parts I implemented, nor my system independent improvements and bug fixes, used.

@joerg
Thanks for the explanation,
and thanks for your work on AmigaOS in the past.

It seems like just yesterday I bought my first 3GB hard drive for AmigaOS 68k.

I remember calling Enrico Altavilla (lowlevel.library).

Because the Workbench wasn't recognizing the hard drive
Then in the end, thanks to him, I solved the problem.

@K-L
Quote:Whole remote desktop, but if you run the host browser (Edge, FireFox, Chrome, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, etc.) in full screen mode there is next to no difference.
For other host systems (Linux, MacOS, etc.) you can use VNC instead, severs are available for all OSes (even AmigaOS) and several clients for AmigaOS.

@joerg

That's what i hought and I already use VNC Client (TwinVNC OS4) to access my server under MacOS Sierra when needed.

I tried to surf like that but it still feels I'm using another computer.

@K-L
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Of course it does, because you are.

As I wrote in the Amibrowser thread. This is my solution for now, until something OS4 native comes along.

Up until recently I was running RemoteDesktop on my X1000 to connect to a very old laptop, running Windows 10, to do things I couldn't do under AmgiaOS4. It worked pretty well with a couple of things to avoid. (like it would freeze if I tried to copy the URL from the URL field of the Windows browser.)

Recently I purchased this TRIGKEY Mini PC Ryzen 5 5500U for $230, which runs Windows 11 Pro, but I couldn't get RemoteDesktop to work with it.

So...I switched to runiing TightVNC server on the Windows side and TwinVNC client on the X1000 side. I have to say it runs better than RemoteDesktop. No more little things to avoid. It runs smooth and fast enough to watch YouTube videos in Brave or Edge browser. I'm very satisified with this setup but it would still be great to have a better AmigaOS4 browser!

@white

I'm now using a little script created by Walkero (thank you!) to get rid of the constant refreshing :

https://ko-fi.com/post/Browservice-and-Odyssey-V7V7MV8LP

You have to midify the script to point to your Browservice IP.

I also had to modify this line like below to avoid blurry lines :

img { width: 99.999%; height: 100%; } \

@K-L

Thanks, I was just reinstalling the Radeon R9 280 GPU.
I'll try again to see if I can fix the audio issue without using the "sudo" command.
I was looking at ChatGPT suggested solutions

I'll try this:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="pci", KERNEL=="0000:06:00.0", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 0000:06:00.0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/unbind 2>/dev/null || true'" ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="pci", KERNEL=="0000:06:00.1", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 0000:06:00.1 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/unbind 2>/dev/null || true'"

But I don't think ChatGPT really understood what I meant.

This doesn't seem to work:
sudo usermod -aG audio $USER

If only there was something normal in AmigaOS if audio was supported in the AmigaOS-side HDMI driver, I'd already solved it.

Obviously I tried Walkero program (Kyvos) but things don't change as soon as I use SUDO to switch the GPU vfio the audio is no longer heard.

Michael Battilana also gave me an AmigaForever license some time ago, but I didn't split it or give it to anyone.

My goal is just to test the driver, nothing else.

And there's no sign of Virtio-GPU. I sent a message to @AmigaKit, but it didn't even read it.
Why won't it let me try the driver ?
I've been emulating AmigaOS 4.1 for years and I've tested it in every way possible

Also releasing a driver RadeonHD that supports audio through HDMI would be a good solution.


Thanks for the Browservice script.

@white
The reason you don't get help is not because of language barrier or other people being selfish but because it seems a bit futile to try to help you. We have had a lengthy discussion of your audio issue before and established that it has nothing to do with QEMU or AmigaOS but you seem to ignore this crucial point and still try to solve it that way. Since it's not related to QEMU or AmigaOS it's also not possible to fix it with QEMU or AmigaOS options or settings. Instead, just make audio work as root on your Linux host with the audio backend that QEMU uses and then it will work with QEMU too. The problem is not specific to QEMU and is a Linux settings issue not related to QEMU. Ask ChatGPT about that and not about vfio, QEMU or AmigaOS and then it might give you a solution. The issue you have to solve is just how to make pipewire or whatever audio server you have accessible as the root user. We have found the solution to that for you before (I forgot but you can dig up the old thread) but you kept trying other things then gave up on it before trying the solution that would work. (Don't bother to answer, that's all I plan to add to this topic as if it does not go across I can't explain it any better so I won't try more.)

And it's off topic :)

@white

Stay on topic. Any other problem related to QEMU should be in another thread.

We have finally managed to have Browservice working correctly with Odyssey 1.23r5

Fo me, it changed evrything since I can again do nearly all my stuff on my X1000.

I'll make a new video using Browservice and Browservce.js (thanks again Walkero!).

I ran the whole thing under Fedora arch64 with “browservice-v0.9.12.0-aarch64.AppImage” as described:

maijestro@Mac-Studio:~/Browservice$ ./browservice-v0.9.12.0-aarch64.AppImage

But here I only get an error message:

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WARNING: The Verdana font is not installed in ‘/home/maijestro/.browservice/appimage/fonts/Verdana.ttf’
Browservice GUI appearance will be suboptimal.
Run ‘./browservice-v0.9.12.0-aarch64.AppImage --install-verdana’ to install it.
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./browservice-v0.9.12.0-aarch64.AppImage: error while loading shared libraries: libcef.so: ELF load command address/offset not page-aligned

Installing the Verdana font also failed.

/tmp/.mount_browseji7Gok/AppRun: Line 128: 5680 Memory access error “${ROOT}/usr/bin/wget” https://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/verdan32.exe -O verdan32.exe --no-check-certificate
ERROR: Downloading Verdana installer executable failed.

Does anyone have any idea how to fix this problem?

@Maijestro

I'm also trying to run Browservice on my M1 Mac mini using a virtual machine, but I haven't been able to do it yet.

However, it does work with Mageia in x86 on my late 2012 Mac mini.

I'm still looking for a way to run it with a virtual machine, otherwise I'll stick with my x86 Mac mini.

@skynet

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I decided to go with https://asahilinux.org/fedora/, which I can boot on my MacStudio when needed.

It works natively. Unfortunately, there seem to be a few problems with dependencies with Browservice aarch64.

@Maijestro

Weird. Maybe you should laucnh it with sudo.

@K-LQuote:

Already executed with Sudo. Tomorrow I'll test it again under Windows....maybe I'll have better luck here.

Yeah! I managed to do this with my Mac mini M1 as a VM, and it's faster than my late 2012 Mac mini.

I used Kali Linux, but I think Ubuntu should also work. All this with VMWare Fusion. In VMWare, you have to choose Virtual Machine, Settings, Network Adapters, Auto-Detect from the menu bar. So, for the VM to have a consistent address, not something like 172.168.0.40 or something else, the IP address must match your network. Mine has something like this: 192.168.0.xxx.

I'm watching a YouTube video, and it's a bit slow, but it's okay. I'll make a video.

However, as soon as you go to the Odyssey window, it messes up the video. You have to wait a bit for it to return to normal.

Regarding the right click, I tried with a version of OWB and the right click works but not much else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbPbW_Nd6Y0

@Maijestro

downloading verdana font:

https://deac-fra.dl.sourceforge.net/pr ... inal/verdan32.exe?viasf=1

use curl or wget

its a CAB selfextracted file, under lines if there exists ome kind unCAB or CabExtract and the juts copy required font to the place needed.

On AmigaOS:
xadunfile verdan32c.exe ""

@jabirulo

It's on the server side, not on AmigaOS side.

About the Verdana issue, Browservice readme says the following

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