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Re: osdepot certificate not updated?
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Perfect, Thanks to all.

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osdepot certificate not updated?
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I have recently updated my internet security suite
with "BitDefender Internet Security"
The "osdepot" site does not have an updated or untrusted certificate.
Obviously a "false positive"

I was wondering if others also experience this with "windows 10"
I used "kaspersky" before and this problem never occurred.
Thank you.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@kas1e
I have prepared a video for you with qemu 6.2.0
where you can see sam460ex 4.1 with all updates including update1 and 2.

I don't know what tests you intend to take (question)?

The test was carried out with a Ryzen 5800x with "qemu host linux"
I had done these tests with an intel I5 2400 and I don't notice big differences, this is a sign that the quality of qemu is good.
Obviously there is no graphics card support.

You can also work by mounting a usb-data stick directly using it in 4.1 qemu mounts it without problems.
So you can move the data you need in seconds.

If you need more details, I'm happy to answer you.
Because the procedure is particular especially for the 4.1FE amigaos cd once the system is installed
qemu does not recognize the -cdrom option as a second device with sam460ex.

Also currently I was modifying the ISO of 4.1 on a "personal only" basis to make it compatible with sm501 with pegasos2 the experiment was successful.
Without going into details
But qemu should be modified for this purpose
But to do this in depth and also to support PicassoIV it takes someone who knows very well amigaos 4.1 at least to modify the ISO and load the right modules at least to do the first tests.

Here I made you a short video:
in 7 days usually the site hosting it deletes it.

https://we.tl/t-lYmpIQcbNQ

part note:
the audio is heard perfectly
i used a software to capture the video
this is why I don't hear it


Edited by white on 2022/2/18 20:19:10
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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Hi,
and a lot that I didn't write,
I just wanted to say that the device to choose is:
cyberstormppc and not uaehf.device
also in "ram z3mapping mode" you have to choose "real" and not "automatic" ( avoid many crashes )
these two options alone increase system performance with winuae by over 100%.
On the contrary, if you do not choose the performance it degrades by more than 100%

If it helps, I can leave my configuration file

I also add that in RTG Board (winuae panel)
you have to choose:
8bit *
15 / 16bit
24bit
R8G8B8A8
(only after configuring uaegfx will the colors be offset otherwise)

select G-REX + ES1370 PCI instead everyone chooses MEDIATOR as well as being more efficient it allows you to allocate more memory and the sound is cleaner.
(use the floppy included in the amigaos 4.1 Final CD for the firmware at the first installation boot).

And the emulation speed increases (you will notice this only using applications and not just doing a system installation but using it in practice with many applications.

If possible select Wasapi EX this improves a lot of things
If you use a capture program to make your videos instead, select Wasapi Default.

select winuae RTG Board "hardware sprite emulation"
you will immediately see for example "Quake" you will see perfectly for example without any artifact.
If you always disable it with Quake you will see the artifacts on the screen.

All of these tweaks will make emulation better even if there are other tweaks in all emulation to do.

But this is a good place to start.

"If after working on a virtual .hdf the system satisfies you.
then you can still increase the speed more by using a real hard drive even ssd.
This increases the speed of copying files exponially.
normal hard drive more than double compared to an .hdf
ssd drive 6-8 times faster than a normal hard drive

use "x76 hide" to initialize the hard disk with specific tools like
"acronis diskdirector"
at that point winuae will recognize the hard disk without problems.
And you can initialize the hard disk directly with "hdtoolbox"

one important thing for this step (real hard drives only)
is to use "uaehf.device"
otherwise you won't be able to initialize it the first time.
Later you can mount it as "cyberstormppc.device"
you just need to save the changes with "hdtoolbox" by choosing "cyberstormppc.device".
At that point the real hard drive will always be seen regularly with "cyberstormppc.device" on every boot."

"With the "hide" option windows will not interfere when you use the real hard disk.
otherwise it will always try to initialize it and conflict with winuae."


this step will give compatibility with most programs and only in some cases "patchcompositetags" will be used

obviously all that I have learned in my experience with 4.1FE I owe it to this forum that I thank again and its users.

But unfortunately in emulation some things deviate from the real hardware.

And they must be adapted but then in the end nothing particular.

here is a small video I recently made with AmiTube 0.7
you can see the running speed.

https://we.tl/t-3PV3VRQ2cK

Thanks again to everyone, for the precious suggestions you have always given me.


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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available
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@kas1e
With winuae and difficult to configure E-UAE it took me a long time to use version 1.0 jit R8 if I'm not mistaken.
I tried your version some time ago unfortunately I didn't notice any benefits because if I use the (emulated workbench 3.9 via E-UAE SDL version then UAEGFX works).

But if I have to use WHDLoad I use the X1000 version it is much faster with winuae emulating 4.1.

separate note:
you may encounter problems installing (uaegfx)
installation may hang when installing UAEGFX driver with E-UAE.

The solution is to wait
the installation seems to freeze but it doesn't.
you just have to wait

Or use winuae and create the whole installation from there.

This is the X1000 version with preconfigured WHDLoad :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbz9AjoCAqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yreAhzu3SKM


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Re: AmigaOS 3.2 for all Classic Amigas released and available
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@kas1e
I use E-UAE with uaegfx
I guess it does the same with real machines
here a little video if that's what you mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Lk7vKFglU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6bfQFMtcX8

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Re: MediaVault releases
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@walkero
thanks for the new version
it works perfectly

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Re: I made a big mistake - Garbled screen
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@AmigaOldskooler
If you want to install 4.1 from scratch it will take 10 minutes and then mount your current .hdf if you have important data.
here you find a video on how to do it
choose the picassoIV or UAEGFX driver instead of "Voodoo"
the configuration is the same, only the chosen graphics card changes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2h0rt-qXYc

just remember to choose in Z3 ram:
real and non-automatic memory this will greatly increase the emulation speed

later you just need to mount your current .hdf to make the changes if it contains important data.

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Re: I made a big mistake - Garbled screen
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@AmigaOldskooler
If you are using the emulation have you chosen picassoIV or UAEGFX?
you should have in SYS:Devs/picasso96settings in case you chose PicassoIV

deleting picasso96settings
on reboot the problem should be solved
you will need to recreate the configuration later

if you are using UAEGFX instead there are other options to choose
I hope it will be useful

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Re: Web browser in 2021?
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@jabirulo
I had tried 4.1 two years ago with qemu 3.1
The test was carried out with an I5-2400
here the test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYX2t5d6lk

Today with the qemu 6.0 version I did some tests there is no improvement at least on the surface the speed seems identical.
(the test was carried out with a ryzen 5800x)

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Re: Web browser in 2021?
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@kas1e
Thanks for the reply

The other day i tried "OWB" with qemu (morphos)
without the use of overlay and works fine probably because qemu engine is based on 6.0 while winuae is based on qemu 2.0.
Then I wondered if with odyssey you could optimize something on the "software" side because OWB works well
I would be satisfied even with small steps
but this is not my field and I could say wrong things.

here OWB with qemu (morphos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGM4y04DxOM

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Re: Web browser in 2021?
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And given my limited knowledge of 4.1 having never had a dedicated real machine everything I learned was explained to me here on this forum which I always thank.

Most likely the system could certainly be improved even more.

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Re: Web browser in 2021?
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@kas1e
It is nice to read that you somehow tried 4.1 using winuae.
It certainly can't compare to real hardware
But I can assure you that it works well considering that there is no support for a graphics card and its acceleration.

It would be very nice to create a winuae optimized version of Odyssey and who better than you could do it.
I've always hoped for this but I never asked you anything about it because obviously you have the real hardware and you have no interest in optimizing a possible version of Odyssey

The system I am currently using works well is fast and if we ignore the limits that are there due to the absence of a dedicated graphics card in winuae.

every time I record a video dedicated to 4.1 and less than 50% fast
in reality the real speed can only be demonstrated when I record videos with the mobile phone because somehow any video capture program I use conflicts with winuae especially the audio and this leads to false results but in reality the speed is excellent .

Sorry again for my post I have a lot of respect for your work.
I understand that those with real hardware are not interested in 4.1 emulation of course

But people who emulate 4.1 with winuae have no idea how to really configure it until today I still haven't found anyone who emulates 4.1 with whom to share experiences together and improve its emulation.

here you can see Odyssey how it really works without the video capture program:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOj2HxT3uRo

and here E-UAE Emotion-Player and AIO Streaming work simultaneously without any slowdown always using the mobile phone to record the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvX21LL4vCg

I can provide you the complete 4.1 system setup if you would have some time to improve Odyssey even more with your skills.

Thanks and sorry for my request, but even using the emulation I buy what I need to make it work.

I would also buy the latest version of Enhancer Software but I would have no benefit unfortunately even buying it.

Thanks for a possible answer.

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Re: help for programs that use SDL
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I also use patchcompositetag eg scummVM could not be displayed correctly as also milktracker etc.
but it does not solve the problem of the slowness of programs if used in the same session at the same time.

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Re: help for programs that use SDL
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@Capehill
Thanks for the reply,
Yes I am using winuae and obviously there are limitations and differences from the real hardware.
But I wouldn't want to get the settings wrong or I could use some tricks in managing multiple applications at the same time if they exist to improve this problem by asking you who are experts in 4.1FE amigaos.

An example is this:
I use E-UAE together with ScummVM at this point the two applications slow down a lot if instead I close one of the two applications everything goes back to being fast.
I am aware that there is no point in using the two applications together.
But the problem I would always like to solve if it is possible
Is it possible to make the two applications work together without slowing down?
This would help me manage the system much better
Always if it is possible to do so.
Thanks again for any advice.

I report here again a small video to explain myself more fully
here I am using three applications together:
emotion
odyssey streaming (AIO)
E-Uae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvX21LL4vCg

everything works perfectly but I am aware that if I open an application like scummVM the system will slow down a lot not because the processor cannot manage a fourth application but because it simply calls into question another application that conflicts with E-UAE
Could I improve this situation somehow?

here instead another example in reality the applications slow down because they conflict with each other using for example together SDL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNE9mdagRM

Thanks and sorry again if I could solve this I would take a big step forward in making the system fast.

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help for programs that use SDL
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I would like to try to solve this problem but I don't know if it is possible to do it.

when I use for example programs that use SDL like scummVM
if in the same session I use another program that uses SDL such as MilkTracker everything slows down.

Is it due to emulation?

Is there a software way to correct this problem?

for example, but I could say a lot of nonsense to open separate processes or something like that to ensure that the two programs do not conflict with each other.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: how many audio channels are recommended in "AHI"
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@All
Thanks as always for the advice and the answers I appreciate them very much.


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how many audio channels are recommended in "AHI"
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On real hardware how many audio channels are selected
for example 4 - 8 or else more in this case for sb128 ?
thanks for any advice.

by selecting multiple audio channels, multiple applications working at the same time benefit ?

I worked hard to make multiple applications used at the same time compatible and I noticed that audio plays an important role at least in my case.

here for example e-uae odyssey (aio) and emotion that work together without slowing down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvX21LL4vCg


Edited by white on 2021/5/1 18:21:45
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Re: Streaming twitch.tv on AmigaOS 4.1
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@walkero
Thank you very much for the reply.

I used ffplay (ffmpeg) for morphos and it works perfectly.
Should i now be able to configure "AIO"?
Are the settings the same as version 4.1?
Thanks and sorry again for the OT and a simple curiosity towards morphos.

here the little test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfSITRBEFOs

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Re: Streaming twitch.tv on AmigaOS 4.1
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@walkero
Thanks for the reply,
and I still apologize for the OT.

I just did a test to see if mplayer was able to play a very light .mp4 video.
but even if the mplayer timer goes on the screen remains black.
I probably can't play videos with qemu.

Thanks again and sorry for the OT it was just a simple curiosity for ( morphos - wayfarer - aio )
I guess youtube videos don't show for the same reason.

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