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I Will collect benchmarks of my freshly built Sam460Cr with those params:

CPU: 1.1GHZ
GFX cards: via PCI-E Riser for vertical setup (coming with the Tower)
HDD: Sata SSD 500 GB via SII 3512
SFX: PCI-E SB Audigi FX
AmigaOS4 FE Update2
up2date 3D libs : ogles2,warp3dnova,etc.


1. GfxBench results for RadeonRX 560 (Polaris 12) 4gb

http://hdrlab.org.nz/Benchmark/GfxBench2D/Result/2283

Overall Score: 5,086.75


2. GfxBench results for RadeonRX 570 (Polaris 10) 8GB

http://hdrlab.org.nz/Benchmark/GfxBench2D/Result/2297

Overall Score: 6,485.32

But! Should to say, that it's benchmark. When i tested games, they most of time of the same speed for both Radeon RX cards (at least gl4es ones). Mean in this case they pushed to limits because of no DMA in the drivers.

But Spencer game (which written in mind well), have differences in 1920x1080x32xall_maximum_settings:

RadeonRX 570 (Polaris10) - menu 80 fps, in game 45
RadeonRX 560 (Polaris12) - menu 50 fps, in game 37

But this RadeonRX10 is so big beast (with additional power, 2 coolers), and _VERY_ hot. I didn't see that Fans move fast enough even on "HIGH" level, so cards start to be hotter and hotter. Feels like Fans didn't know when to start to move faster (even in High settings).


So for now surely I will choose RadeonRX12 there, even if it slower a bit.



Edited by kas1e on 2021/4/30 16:10:09
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CPU: AMCC PPC460EX, 1.2 @ 1.155 GHz
Board name: Radeon RX Polaris12 (RX550 single slot)
Product ID: 0x699f Vendor ID: 0x1002 SubProduct ID: 0x90fa SubVendor ID: 0x103c
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http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/2285
Power prefs to Dynamic->Perfomance => Overall Score: 4,998.45


http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/2306
Power prefs to High => Overall Score: 5,198.78


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Imho our results a bit too low? I just checked the whole site with results, and there some sams which give ~7,000.xx, and a lot of those which give more than ~6,000.xx

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The results are lower with the Radeon Rx v2.x drivers and maybe power prefs settings .

Or Update 2 ?


http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxben ... AmigaOS/GraphicsCard/580/

Same card gave previous score of 6,490.09 or 6,341.26 .
Now 5,125.86

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Edited by Spectre660 on 2021/4/30 13:48:42
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AMCC PPC460EX, 1.2 @ 1.02 GHz

Radeon RX Polaris11
Product ID: 0x67ef, Vendor ID: 0x1002
Sub-Product ID: 0xb04, Sub-Vendor ID: 0x1002
VRAM Size: 4 GiB

Radeon RX 560

Overall Score: 4,513.35
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/2286

If memory serves, I think I was getting a higher score with a Radeon HD7770.
I think it was around two thousand higher but can't be sure.

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It is probably worth checking different Radeon RX driver versions... Will do it today. I also have 2 more cards worth testing, will be interesting to see speed change (if any) on the same machine

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May actually have something to do with power settings .

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If memory serves, I think I was getting a higher score with a Radeon HD7770.
I think it was around two thousand higher but can't be sure.


Back in months when I test heavy both HD and RX drivers, I find out that RX driver _slower_ in simple small operations. Hans explains that RX needs to do more work behind scenes, and so on small operations, it can be slower.

But in real-life tests, those small operations not very often used (especially in games), and the "big" operations that what is count, and they faster than on RadeonHD. While, because of small tests, overall score can be lower on Radeon RX than with radeonHD.

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May actually have something to do with power settings.


I do all the tests with "HIGH".

Through, what I found, "save" in power prefs just do not work at all! You hit save, reboot, then come back , and blew, the same default settings => low FPS.

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For me the changes are saved to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/A-EON/power.xml . values 0,1 or 2

<key>FORCED</key>
<integer>2</integer>

That works when I change the setting.
If the setting are not being read back or applied properly then that is another matter .

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Excuse me for being off topic but I have a similar issue with my new Radeon RX570 in my X5000. I get only ~6300 points (Lower than the ~7100 points of my R9 270x) while others score >8000 points. That's with the same library versions.

It is a used card (could have been a mining card even) so I'll check in my PC if the cards bios settings can improve the results. Ultimately I'll reinstall AmigaOS41.

X5000/20 + RX570 + V2.4 driver : 8592

My X5000/20 + RX570 +V2.5 driver: 6270


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Hmm, thought i'd read a save and reboot worked.
Just tried changing to low in power prefs and selecting low.
The changed back to high power and selecting use and then save.
Ran the test again -

Overall Score: 4,960.74

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For me, the changes are saved to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/A-EON/power.xml . values 0,1 or 2


Damn, as I just install all manually on sam460 from enhancer, I didn't create the "A-EON" directory in the env-archive, so, it just can't save as didn't find the directory. But then, probably it means power prefs need tasty error-window saying "save file can't be created because you happen didn't have A-EON dir in env-arc".

Created directory and it works :)

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We need to check the same on 2.4.. Will do today on both x5000 and sam460 so we can see if there some general regression in speed and if so, where exactly.

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I didn't create the "A-EON" directory in the env-archive, so, it just can't save as didn't find the directory.

That is a limitation of the Application Library (more specifically, its PrefsObjects framework). The library lets you specify a sub-directory for storing your prefs (via the REGAPP_ENVDir tag), but if the path doesn't exist, the library does nothing about it. I think the correct behaviour would be that the library creates the sub-directory for you in such a case.

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Yes, that seems the source of my problem.

The power setting is not applied at boot.

1. When I save "High power" and reboot then I get a slow result. (6300).
2. When I reboot, open the power pref, press use and run the test again. I get 8260.
3. When I reboot again and run the test I get 6300. When I open the power pref after the first test, press use and run the test again, I get 8260.

Performance is the same for the V2.4 and V2.5 driver.

It makes a huge difference in overal responsiveness of my system.(eg scolling codebench and Odyssey)

Night of the zombies menu difference is 51 vs 81 fps. (+60%)

Will have to wait for the new warp3dnova library to test actual game speed. Now the RX570 doesn't work beyond the menu.

Video decoder works with my RX570

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Try just opening the power prefs and then closing them without changing anything.
That also seems to work for me.

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Put the Radeon RX 570 in (Polaris 10): some big beast with 2 coolers and additional power:

http://hdrlab.org.nz/Benchmark/GfxBench2D/Result/2297

Overall Score: 6,485.32

But feel like something wrong with Fans in both cards: i.e. they didn't move fast enough even on HIGH settings of power management.

And that "beast" rx570 start to be pretty hot.

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Try just opening the power prefs and then closing them without changing anything.
That also seems to work for me.


Can you describe what issue are exactly and how to reproduce step by step (i collect bugs for power tool, just to push them all at one go to the bug-report page).

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Yes, I can confirm that this works for me too.

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