Project - hardware to run AOS4 for 35 euro on QEMU 10 + GPU  passthrough

Project - hardware to run AOS4 for 35 euro on QEMU 10 + GPU  passthrough


I know that a few people doubted the purpose of the project - that is why I am publishing it.
The project does not include the power supply and the case and sdd disk
Price about +20 euro.
All hardware is not new. The goal was to run AOS4 on 2010-2012 PC(X86_64) hardware

List:
Qemu 10 qemu-system-ppc -M amigaone
System Ubuntu 25.04 (beta)
Linux Kernel: default from Ubuntu
Motherboard: GA-B75M-D3V REV. 1.1 (link) - https://www.gigabyte.pl/products/page/mb/ga-b75m-d3vrev_11/sp
Processor: Intel Core i5-3470 (link) - https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/e ... 0-ghz/specifications.html
RAM: 2x Samsung DDR3 4GB 1600MHz CL11 1Rx8 12800U (8GB total)
Graphics card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 (link) https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-hd-7750.b614

video -> https://youtu.be/2-sQbCyh8PA


How would AOS4 work on current PC hardware ?
open topic

*) thank you to the donors for your help with hardware and software.

Tests:
*****!!! - Many thanks to EntwicklerX for the unpaid access to the full games they created for AOS4 for testing and testing on the QEMU GPU passthrough. - !!!*****


I'm currently testing M.A.C.E - it's hard to tear myself away from this game, so for starters
Game running on full screen 1680x1050 setting ‘high’
fps:
main mode - 274-190 frames
gameplay - 180-72 frames depending on the number of objects.

screenshot -> https://ibb.co/7xwTwRcG
screenshot -> https://ibb.co/gZwJJwNP
screenshot -> https://ibb.co/jk84Q98F


Super Star Blast - works very well. Just as terribly addictive as M.A.C.E.
Game running on full screen 1680x1050

Vsync = yes
Holds 59-60 fps in gameplay
Vsync = no jumps 67-82 fps in gameplay
Slight sound problems do not exist in reality. I saw them when I was ripping the video. This is a problem with my phone. I accidentally gave recording in 4k and my phone is a bit too slow.

Video - > https://youtu.be/Kd_a9kpbXtQ

MACE Tower Defense - the game looked simple and it's not. I guess I need to practice
It seems to work even well.
Screen mode like previous games. Has little lag
video - > https://youtu.be/_cwmhHWjOoY

After all the current game tests from EntwicklerX
it looks like they run better on QEMU (currently has problems with vfio-pci) and a weak X86 CPU which is ... horribly demeaning for the A1222+ unfortunately.
example video -> https://youtu.be/m5akMJ7DPdM?t=1082

Spencer
The game is fully playable on my machine.
With Default settings and Vsync = yes the game runs at around 45-48 fps.





legend:
- the games must be purchased which I strongly encourage you to do.
- the games have been donated to me at the moment on EntwicklerX's own initiative and will not be shared with others.
- The game film, if not included, will be added later.
- In order not to create a new topic, all tests will be added here and later moved to the first topic.
- If there are changes to the emulation of qemu, the test results will be corrected with a description.

@smarkusg

Ohaaaa impressive, so it is possible after all. I think that will change a lot. I didn't think it would be possible so quickly.

It looks good and seems to be fast even on the i5. I'd be interested to see some benchmarks. Could you do it to see how fast the emulation behaves with 3d acceleration?

A cool tool for this would be StarBox from Os4depot, for example.

https://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... hics/misc/starboxdemo.lha

Very impressive, it will be my next amiga
Keep up the good work!!

@smarkusg

Agree, really impressive. I had glanced at your efforts from time to time with interest and even tried qemu myself, but alas found it incomprehensible.

Congratulations and hopefully you'll help grow the community!

@Maijestro
Quote:Additionaly the results of GfxBench2D would be interesting.
According to the video it looks like @smarkusg is only the 2nd qemu user, after @geennaam, who got vifo-pci pass-through working with usable speed.
Several others got vifo-pci pass-through working with Radeon HD or RX cards as well, but the results were more or less slide-shows, much slower than the emulated SM502, and nothing usable at all...

@smarkusg

But is the audio audible in your setup ?

I probably can't install the extras to put the MIXER
I have no idea how to do it.
It tells me that the CD is protected.
In practice it doesn't point to the AmigaOS Partition.

@smarkusg
Very nice!

great! is there a laptop that meets the requirements

@smarkusg

So you're saying we might actually see an OS4.x notebook

@all
look at also here https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=118993

It would be nice to have a GUI to launch QEMU fully functional and ready for a vifo-pci pass-through, audio and usb fully working.

It would be nice also to identify a laptop and a minipc (macmini?) 100% compatible with QEMU OS4

@Maijestro
Quote:
Remember this is a 3rd generation i5. The current generation of intel processors is 14.
Sarbox score is FPS: 188.25

@joerg
Quote:
The score from GfxBench2D is : 4,287.08 is posted on the server.

X86_64 hardware is from 2010-2012. Must keep this in mind.

@daveywQuote:

Thank you very much for your kind words
I read your interesting posts too.

QEMU seems to be complicated. Possibly because of the very large number of options and the command line mode.
@Falke_34 is working on a GUI for QEMU PPC. You may find it helpful.

I have recently noticed that even NVMe can be run via QEMU and an old driver which is no longer available.
If there is anything I can help you with, please let me know.

@smarkusg

Quote:

Of course, an i5 might not be the best choice, but I still think your result is good. You're not using an X550/560/570 or 580, and the 2d acceleration alone should make the Workbench feel a lot better.

Of course it will certainly be faster on newer hardware. you and I know how fast it already feels on a MacMini/MacStudion even if not 3d accelerated.

So can you use 32 modes now?

Thanks for the test and the numbers.

@328gts
@NinjaCyborg

Quote:

Unfortunately laptops and notbooks probably won't work.
You need to have two graphics cards.

@afxgroup once wrote that he seems to have a laptop with RX and wanted to run GPU passthrough with AOS4. He didn't write how the issue turned out

@Maijestro

Quote:
Yes, in the forwarded video you have and Sysmon where I use 32bit

@all

One big myth has been busted. Morphos has always prided itself on the fact that their system can run on a cheap Apple PPC.
The myth has died. AOS4 can even run on X86_64 for a pittance.

@smarkusg
Quote:

A lot of laptops have two GPUs, an integrated and a discrete one but due to how they are connected to the screen maybe not all would support using one from the guest. However you don't necessarily need two GPUs, the requirement is that you don't use the GPU from the host while the guest is running. There are two ways to achieve that: 1. If you don't mind not having video output from the host because you only want to run the guest you can assign the GPU to vfio driver after you've enabled ssh then interact with the host through network so the GPU is free for the guest. Or 2. if you also want to use the host normally you could make a script that unbinds the GPU from the host driver, binds it to vfio, starts the guest then when guest is finished rebinds to host driver. Somebody surely did that already somewhere, I remember seeing a guide once but I can't find it now.

Quote:

Maybe the guide was lined in that thread somewhere.

@balaton

Yes you are of course right. What I meant was that with laptops and their graphics cards are sometimes different.
It is best to use a desktop computer.

With the exclusion of the intel GPU you are also right. Today I will do it at my place. I will install ssh-server so I can log into my machine in case of problems. I'll replace boot splash in grub with some nice amiga one, add automatic qemu boot, disable gnome....
Finally, I will disable the Intel GPU on my board and... there will be “AmigaNG” with invisible linux in the background.

Unfortunately I have never been able to get it to work... It had 2 card. A radeon rx and an intel. It is an HP one
now that laptop is used by my son..

@smarkusg
AmithlonNG? If you start with a minimal Linux distro/live CD that fits on a few megabytes you can have most of the machine for AmigaOS.

@smarkusg
Quote:Your result http://ns.hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfx ... 2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/2931 isn't much slower than geennaam's https://ftp.hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gf ... 2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/2773
He used a faster gfx card (R9 270x), and the CPU he used (i5-10400) should be much faster than the one you are using as well.
But your MemCopy results are better than his, and since AmigaOS still does a lot of 2D gfx rendering using the CPU instead of the GPU, which requires very slow reading/writing from/to the gfx card memory, your system may even be be faster for Workbench, etc., and only slower for 3D software like games using OpenGL.

Both geennaam's and your system are much faster than any real AmigaOne SE/XE/µA1, Pegasos2 and Sam4x0, just slower than a 100 times as expensive X5000 with Radeon RX gfx card.