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Re: Video editing software
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@AmigaSociety

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That is why I had two things needed in my message... updated Web Browser and Video Editor. haha


Then I agree with your post 😉

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@Maijestro

Two dreams of mine for sure for Amiga OS.

Does seem a shame that one day LONG ago Amiga owned the world of video, kind of, and now just a small note in that history in terms of folks using it today.

Would be cool if Amiga OS platforms had some video stuff back.

Not sure it could ever compare to modern systems that have so much more horsepower BUT would still be cool for the few that still use Amiga OS.

In this day and age, is there really anything new folks can bring to the table to make something mission critical on Amiga OS that would drive outside folks in to want to explore Amiga OS?

Probably not unfortunately as it seems all hobby now but still, it is fun to use what we have to its fullest.

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Our Blender port uses MiniGL. Do you have NovaBridge installed?

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Hmm... I do not. Where do I get it from? I can't find it on Enhancer 2.2 or on AmiStore?

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@daveyw

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Hmm... I do not. Where do I get it from? I can't find it on Enhancer 2.2 or on AmiStore?


Strange. It's supposed to be on the AmiStore.

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@daveyw
It's on Amistore:

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@AmigaSociety

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Indeed, that is the question, "who would buy"....

For AmigaOS, I'm almost guaranteed to get some sales if I made something good. There are some very enthusiastic Amiga fans here.

The problem is that there aren't enough to sustain a business, meaning that I'd have to also sell to Windows/MacOS/Linux users. That's much harder, because there are already some very good products out there, and a lot of background noise.

If we were guaranteed to sell thousands of copies of software on AmigaOS, then it would be a different matter...

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@Hans

Maybe if the software exists on all Amiga systems (Aros, Morphos, Uae, etc...) this increases the number of potential sales.

Basic software initially requires less work and allows sales to be evaluated

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@Hans
I think that there is nothing to set yourself up to compete with PC software. As a Youtuber, I also use PC software, of course, and I realize that if something for video editing was created on AmigaOS 4 by the strength of one man, it could not compete with Adobe or Corel programs.

Nevertheless, I would use it if only as an auxiliary tool, to create some short clips that are part of a longer movie edited on PC. Anyway, I do that now and sometimes insert Hollywood generated clips into my movies, even though this program is not a video editor after all.

I believe that the Amiga, which has a tradition in the video industry, has raised a lot of users who are into it, so the demand for such a video editor would be greater than, for example, ZitaFTP.

You need to think about creating not something that could compete with PC software, but something that could compete with free software on AmigaOS4. At the moment, probably the best video editor for OS4 is FFShop. It's not a very advanced tool, so the bar is hung low. If you were to create something similar (especially if you could introduce GPU video encoding and perhaps ExtMEM support), I would buy such a program for sure.

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@Hans

Someone else mentioned to make it for MorphOS as well as AROS, which makes sense.

How about making it for another unique platform like Haiku, the BeOS inspired OS.

Maybe making a Video Editor for these several unique platforms would be a way to get the qty of sales up there?

Of course making it to work on many is probably quite hard as well.

Anyway, I did buy into Next Gen Amiga in hopes to find a different experience and community than what the Windows and Mac and Linux were not fulfilling for me, so I still dream one day I can use my X5K more and more, even if it is slower. Just means I can sip my whiskey slower as I work.

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@Petrol

Well, I couldn't see it under Drivers:

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Had to look through the full list to find it.

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Now, how to actually buy it, given that AmiStore doesn' work with Odyssey...

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It would still be nice to write my own video editor. But, it's getting harder to find a gap in the market. There are already some very good editors available, both paid and free...

Hans

How about animation software? I'm not an animator, but an easy to use typography, rotoscope, or stop motion animation software would interest me.

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You need to think about creating not something that could compete with PC software, but something that could compete with free software on AmigaOS4. At the moment, probably the best video editor for OS4 is FFShop. It's not a very advanced tool, so the bar is hung low. If you were to create something similar (especially if you could introduce GPU video encoding and perhaps ExtMEM support), I would buy such a program for sure.

There is zero chance of any software released exclusively for AmigaOS + clones being able to earn enough to keep my family and I sheltered and fed. Something that some here don't seem to understand is that I don't have a "day job." Creating software (or anything) for the fun of it is a luxury that I cannot afford right now. Either something earns enough to support my family, or I can't afford do it.

So for now, the only way forward for me that'll allow me to write software for AmigaOS, is to make something that I can successfully sell on a much larger platform.

This is also why ZitaSync and [url=keasigmadelta.com/zitafs-aos/]ZitaFS** still haven't happened. When I tried to find potential users outside of AmigaOS, I only found passive aggressive "you must open-source it and give it away for free" types. I'm convinced that there are people who would want them. But, with no low-cost way to reach enough of them, those two projects became too risky.

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How about animation software? I'm not an animator, but an easy to use typography, rotoscope, or stop motion animation software would interest me.

That's something I've also thought about, but it would be subject to the same multi-platform requirements as anything else...

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Of course someone is welcome to update the following software to be HD and OS 4.1 friendly.

https://www.discreetfx.com/openvideotoaster.html

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One thing that might work is to use FFMPEG to reduce your clips down to a low rez, build your edits and cuts then apply them to the full size files for final rendering.

Might make it tolerable to do editing an X5000.

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One thing that might work is to use FFMPEG to reduce your clips down to a low rez, build your edits and cuts then apply them to the full size files for final rendering.

Might make it tolerable to do editing an X5000.

Do we have video editing software that will let you swap out the clip files like you suggest? It could work, provided that the editing software will adjust the clip scale factor when the resolution changes.

Camtasia has a feature like this, where it can generate a "proxy" clip for editing purposes.

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@ktadd

Thanks, using your ffmpegGUI suggestion worked nicely.
Always nice to be able to do things on the Amiga.
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Do we have video editing software that will let you swap out the clip files like you suggest?

Yes. VideoClipper from OS4Depot

1. Just "Add" your files to be edited.
2. Go to the "Video/Auidio/Files" tab and select the "Draft Low" or "Draft Medium" profile.
3. Click on the "Cut Only" button at the bottom of the screen.
4. I suggest you save the project, which will save the location of the converted files as well. That way you can always recall the project if needed.

All the videos in the list will be converted to the new, lower setting/format.
You can then view each video and set your edit points, effects, etc.
Once that's done you can select your final profile/conversion settings. Then "Cut and Join" the files.

Note the original files will not be touched.

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@ktadd

everyone busy trying out video clipper now lol

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I did!

Tremendous work ktadd. I was able to chop up a video and add your video overlay.

The simple tutorial you provided definitly helped understand how to use it...

Few days ago I was using DeVinci Resolve and it took me a min to figure out the tabs at the botton for the different roles, cut, edit, etc.

ktadd, have you looked at the Video Toaster Flyer software? Your using a vertical list to manage your clip arrangement, the flyer used "crutons" with are basically icons to represent video, audios, FX, and images, that can be arranged and ordered horizonatally.

When you want to "cut" a video it opens a separate window which provides the play, start frame, end frame selector.

The same types if functions you've implemented but in a separate window.

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