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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 9:19 #21

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@ddni Quote:

Not to nit pick, but Amigakit were still advocating 4850 cards for X1000s when mine was built this August - 3 months ago.

Hang on to that 4850, as it *may* perform better with Gallium3D than that 6850 you 'borrowed'. (A year ago Gallium3D performed far better on the 4xxx series than later ones, and I haven't seen (or looked for) tests with more recent versions of Gallium3D which might say that has changed.)

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 11:19 #22

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This is the 6850 which I have just installed with my X1000. i got it last year from Novatech for £95.
It runs SILENTLY and the GFXBench score is massively better than the 4850... (Which is now in my Sons PC - Until Gallium3d testing)

5th Place in the GfxBench2D table

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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-6850-eah6850-ax6850,review-32056-2.html

BUT!
The RHDRMTest_R700 demo gives a flashing grey screen.
The RHDRMTest2 (thanks Trevor) gives the error that "RHDRMTest2 needs an R6xx-R7xx chipset in order to run." This demo needs a Radeon HD 2000 - 4000 series graphics card.

Both of these demos ran on the 4850.

This is the Ranger output
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Edited by ddni on 2012/11/2 16:10:21

Hans

Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 19:31 #23

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Quote:

vox wrote:
As I understand Warp3D driver WILL BE developed (by you) but currently no RadeonHD in AmigaOS cant do hardware Warp3D.

No, I'm not the one writing the Warp3D driver.

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 19:37 #24

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Quote:

ddni wrote:
BUT!
The RHDRMTest_R700 demo gives a flashing grey screen.
The RHDRMTest2 (thanks Trevor) gives the error that "RHDRMTest2 needs an R6xx-R7xx chipset in order to run." This demo needs a Radeon HD 2000 - 4000 series graphics card.

Both of these demos ran on the 4850.

Of course they ran on the 4850 but not your 6850. It seems that a lot of people overlook this, but, from the A-EON announcement:
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To put the driver through its paces its developer, Hans de Ruiter, has created a short test program for Radeon HD 4000 series cards which renders a fly-through of a 3D scene whose textures and geometry take up more space than is available in VRAM. This program along with another test demo are included on the download page.

Note that it says for Radeon HD 4000 series cards...

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 19:45 #25

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Yes I saw the need for a 4xxx card with the space fly through demo, does the HDR logo demo need a 4xxx too?

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 19:52 #26

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@ddni

The composition demos works on the 5k,6k and 7k series.

X5000

Hans

Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 19:59 #27

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Quote:

ddni wrote:
Yes I saw the need for a 4xxx card with the space fly through demo, does the HDR logo demo need a 4xxx too?

Yes. It was written before 5xxx+ support was added, which is why it tries to run anyway. I thought that I had updated the code of that test program to reject newer chipsets, but it looks like I didn't.

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2012/11/2 21:39 #28

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OK thanks. Your Boing ball demo runs perfectly!

Are there any other demos that run on 5xxx 6xxx or 7xxx cards?

328gts

Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2014/4/2 3:47 #29

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Quote:

ddni wrote:
This is the 6850 which I have just installed with my X1000. i got it last year from Novatech for £95.
It runs SILENTLY and the GFXBench score is massively better than the 4850... (Which is now in my Sons PC - Until Gallium3d testing)

5th Place in the GfxBench2D table

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-6850-eah6850-ax6850,review-32056-2.html

BUT!
The RHDRMTest_R700 demo gives a flashing grey screen.
The RHDRMTest2 (thanks Trevor) gives the error that "RHDRMTest2 needs an R6xx-R7xx chipset in order to run." This demo needs a Radeon HD 2000 - 4000 series graphics card.

Both of these demos ran on the 4850.

This is the Ranger output

Ah I must admit I love zapping life back into our old threads

@ ddni

I've got the exact same card & since I installed the latest v1.0 HDRadeon driver I'm getting the exact same grey flashing screen now when running the boing ball demo. So what was the problem exactly for you ?

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2014/4/2 4:49 #30

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@ ddni

I've got the exact same card & since I installed the latest v1.0 HDRadeon driver I'm getting the exact same grey flashing screen now when running the boing ball demo. So what was the problem exactly for you ?

His problem was that he was trying to run the RHDRMTest_R700 demo on a Radeon HD 6xxx series card. That demo only works on the Radeon HD 4xxx series (which is what the "R700" in the name denotes). The 6xxx series are different enough that a whole new set of shaders and HW acceleration routines would have to be written for it.

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The 6xxx series are different enough that a whole new set of shaders and HW acceleration routines would have to be written for it.

Does that mean that, even if the cards are supported in 2D (Workbench), they won't be covered by the upcoming 3D drivers and hardware acceleration?

Or did i understand it completely wrong?

328gts

Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2014/4/2 17:50 #32

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@Hans

ah lol I'm pretty sure that's what I ran mistaking it for the boing ball demo..doh

now where I can I re-download that boing ball demo again?

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2014/4/2 20:19 #33

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Does that mean that, even if the cards are supported in 2D (Workbench), they won't be covered by the upcoming 3D drivers and hardware acceleration?

No. If you look at the original press release, you'll see that they're targeting the Radeon HD 5xxx/6xxx series (minus the 69xx series, which has its own ISA).

My point in the bit that you quoted, was that each graphics card series require their own driver code. Since RHDRMTest_R700 was just a proof-of-concept demo for testing the RadeonHD_RM.resource's API, I have no plans to update it to support newer cards. It has done its job.

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now where I can I re-download that boing ball demo again?

Here.

Hans

Edited by Hans on 2014/4/3 2:26:31

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Re: best 5 or 6 series card to get for future 3d

Posted on: 2014/4/3 2:18 #34

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@Hans

thanks Hans Boing Demo working great!

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