QEMU, e500 and Linux

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/7/31 10:08 #21

Quite a regular

@afxgroup

Ubuntu trust server 14.04 powerpc iso - there on the disc is this kernel in the e500mc directory.

https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/

It is possible that from the useful links you may be able to preface (I do not know if this is current ) :

https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPCSPEPort

and I think there is some FreeBSD port but I don't know if that interests you at all and if it will work on QEMU

13.2 powerpcspe MPC85XXSPE
https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ ... werpcspe/ISO-IMAGES/13.2/

Maybe someone has inresed more about this. That's all my meager knowledge allowed to come up with something

I hope something will be useful

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/7/31 18:58 #22

Just can't stay away

@afxgroup
Maybe I'm missing what you're trying to do but if you have an iso that has some kernel and initrd on it. Why can't you boot the iso directly? (Are you trying to run an iso not intended for the machine that's emulated?) Or if you want to use -kernel -initrd -append why don't you mount the iso and copy the needed files from it? I don't see where's the problem.

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/7/31 21:16 #23

Amigans Defender

Because it isn't working. Why don't you try to run it? I've tried several ppc iso and uboot doesn't boot anyone of them. Using virtio I can see the HD and the cd using virtio scan and info. If I add an ahci controller I can see it in pci list but none of them it is booting. If you find an iso that is working please tell me please where I can download it and give me the exact command line that works with e500

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/7/31 21:33 #24

Quite a regular

@afxgroup

I think the easiest way is to ask @xeno74, he's probably been doing this for over 10 years (Qemu PowerPC). Most of it is related to "kvm", but he may have tried it without it.
At least I don't know, and maybe @balaton doesn't either, because we haven't looked into it (I'm writing for myself).
If you've already asked him, sorry for the spam.

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/4 13:18 #25

Quite a regular

@afxgroup

Needed to see the e500 for a while because I need one. I don't have time to install it but it works ?


./qemu-system-ppc -machine ppce500 -nographic -cpu e500mc -serial mon:stdio -kernel vmlinux -initrd initrd.gz -device virtio-balloon-pci -device virtio-rng-pci  -device virtio-blk-pci-transitional,drive=drive0 -drive file=SDK.hdf,if=none,id=drive0,format=raw,bus=0,unit=0 -append 'console=ttyS0,115200'



[    0.000000] Using QEMU e500 machine description

[    0.000000] Memory CAM mapping: 64/64 Mb, residual: 0Mb

[    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset

[    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu

[    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct

[    0.000000] Linux version 3.13.0-24-powerpc-e500 (buildd@sagari) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:38:27 UTC 2014 (Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-powerpc-e500 3.13.9)

[    0.000000] Found initrd at 0xc4000000:0xc47f1cc6

[    0.000000] CPU maps initialized for 1 thread per core

[    0.000000] bootconsole [udbg0] enabled

setup_arch: bootmem

qemu_e500_setup_arch()

arch: exit

[    0.000000] Zone ranges:

[    0.000000]   DMA      [mem 0x00000000-0x07ffffff]

[    0.000000]   Normal   empty

[    0.000000]   HighMem  empty

[    0.000000] Movable zone start for each node

[    0.000000] Early memory node ranges

[    0.000000]   node   0: [mem 0x00000000-0x07ffffff]

[    0.000000] MMU: Allocated 1088 bytes of context maps for 255 contexts

[    0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 13 pages/cpu @c0eb4000 s28800 r8192 d16256 u53248

[    0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 32512

[    0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200

[    0.000000] PID hash table entries: 512 (order: -1, 2048 bytes)

[    0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)

[    0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)

[    0.000000] Sorting __ex_table...

[    0.000000] allocated 262144 bytes of page_cgroup

[    0.000000] please try 'cgroup_disable=memory' option if you don't want memory cgroups

[    0.000000] Cannot allocate SWIOTLB bufferMemory: 106396K/131072K available (8296K kernel code, 496K rwdata, 2532K rodata, 532K init, 2138K bss, 24676K reserved, 0K highmem)

[    0.000000] Kernel virtual memory layout:

[    0.000000]   * 0xfff5f000..0xfffff000  : fixmap

[    0.000000]   * 0xffc00000..0xffe00000  : highmem PTEs

[    0.000000]   * 0xffbfe000..0xffc00000  : early ioremap

[    0.000000]   * 0xc9000000..0xffbfe000  : vmalloc & ioremap

[    0.000000] SLUB: HWalign=64, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=1, Nodes=1

[    0.000000] Hierarchical RCU implementation.

[    0.000000]  RCU dyntick-idle grace-period acceleration is enabled.

[    0.000000]  RCU restricting CPUs from NR_CPUS=8 to nr_cpu_ids=1.

[    0.000000] NR_IRQS:512 nr_irqs:512 16

[    0.000000] mpic: Setting up MPIC " OpenPIC  " version 1.2 at fe0040000, max 1 CPUs

[    0.000000] mpic: ISU size: 256, shift: 8, mask: ff

[    0.000000] mpic: Initializing for 256 sources

[    0.000000] clocksource: timebase mult[2800000] shift[24] registered

[    0.000000] Console: colour dummy device 80x25

[    0.012587] pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301

[    0.013929] Security Framework initialized

[    0.020502] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized

[    0.020822] Yama: becoming mindful.

[    0.026378] Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)

[    0.026830] Mountpoint-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)

[    0.044777] Initializing cgroup subsys memory

[    0.045566] Initializing cgroup subsys devices

[    0.045945] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer

[    0.046318] Initializing cgroup subsys blkio

[    0.046665] Initializing cgroup subsys perf_event

[    0.047029] Initializing cgroup subsys hugetlb

[    0.048438] ftrace: allocating 25121 entries in 74 pages

[    0.111801] e500 family performance monitor hardware support registered

[    0.137390] Brought up 1 CPUs

[    0.158043] devtmpfs: initialized

[    0.164697] EVM: security.selinux

[    0.165032] EVM: security.SMACK64

[    0.165247] EVM: security.capability

[    0.178365] regulator-dummy: no parameters

[    0.182004] NET: Registered protocol family 16

[    0.186886] cpuidle: using governor ladder

[    0.187441] cpuidle: using governor menu

....

[    2.690418] virtio: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel

[    2.750186] virtio-pci 0000:00:01.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)

[    2.762086] virtio-pci 0000:00:02.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)

[    2.774860] virtio-pci 0000:00:03.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)

[    2.783480] virtio-pci 0000:00:04.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)

[    4.246321] blk-mq: CPU -> queue map

[    4.246636]   CPU 0 -> Queue 0

[    4.269292]  vda: RDSK (512) vda1 (DOS^A)(res 2 spb 1) vda2 (SFS^@)(res 2 spb 1)

I plugged in some disk image and "SDK.hdf"


~ # cat /dev/vda

RDSK@��[k������������������������������������@@@@?�PART@�-�BOOT��@�������DOSPART@�3������DH0��?�@�������SFSDOS<>��Amiga Partition: SectorSize=512 Surfaces=1 SectorsPerBlock=1 SectorsPerTrack=1280 Reserved=2 PreAlloc=0 LowCyl=1 HighCyl=147 BootPri=0 DosType=0x444f5301 Name=BOOT Date=2023-03-30^C

~ #

sees ...

running with vmlinuz and initrd with ubuntu-14.04-server-powerpc.iso "install/e500"

I don't have time to install the system currently.

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/4 15:57 #26

Amigans Defender

Well,
Can you please send me everything?
I mean vmlinux and so on?

Thanks

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/4 20:36 #27

Quite a regular

@afxgroup
why do you need my files?

add the cdrom and install ... I don't have time to install at the moment. I know how to do it and that's enough for me.
-
why don't you try this?
qemu-system-ppc -machine ppce500 -nographic -cpu e500mc -serial mon:stdio -kernel vmlinux -initrd initrd.gz -device virtio-balloon-pci -device virtio-rng-pci -device virtio-blk-pci-transitional,drive=drive0 -drive file=Linux_e500. hdf,if=none,id=drive0,format=raw -append 'console=ttyS0,115200' -drive file=virtio-win.iso,media=cdrom,index=3 -drive if=virtio,file=install.iso,index=5,media=cdrom
--

and by the way ... why should i torture my weak laptop when i can run on some remote powerful machine - video playback and gaming i don't care about ?
it's been a long time since I played with Qemu ; -(

https://streamable.com/ljzstj

thanks @afxgroup for reminding me !!!

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 8:02 #28

Amigans Defender

I need your files because I don't have any of them. No kernel, no initrd and so on. I have only the iso files and of course you don't have to give me them. Just the minimum to make the machine work correctly like yours

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 10:28 #29

Just can't stay away

@afxgroup
You're hard to please. Did you read what @smarkusg wrote? He told you that >>running with vmlinuz and initrd with ubuntu-14.04-server-powerpc.iso "install/e500"<< so go downlod that ISO and get the files from it and try the command line that was also given. The vmlinuz and initrd are on the CD so if you have the ISO you also have the files.

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 11:46 #30

Amigans Defender

Well, don't you think i've tried lot of distros without results?
I've donwloaded ubuntu-14.04-server-powerpc.iso, extracted vmlinux and initrd.gz, downloaded a file called wirtio-win.iso from a fedora web site.. and then nothing happens when I run the command. qemu seems stuck.
Not only. Not all distro has the same kernel file. For example freebsd has a file called KERNEL but not initrd.gz.
That's why I'm asking for something ready that is working for someone. Is it so hard to share two files?

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 12:17 #31

Just can't stay away

@afxgroup
The command @smarkusg showed boots for me, I see the ubuntu installer starting with it so if it does not boot for you you're doing something wrong and giving you vmlinuz/initrd won't solve your problem. Maybe you could at last tell what are you trying to boot. Is that supposed to run on e500 at all?

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 14:32 #32

Amigans Defender

I'm trying to run an e500v2 machine. Not Mc, not M1. A v2 because I need to test math library under linux
I've also found a powerpc spe freebsd version but same result

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/5 21:01 #33

Quite a regular

@afxgroup

Oh it's that processor "Tabor"....SPE....
Well that could be a problem. But probably not even qemu related.
It is gone in the Linux world. in GCC as well.
I hope the AmigaOS world will deal with it

To the specifics:
The only hope is to search the debian archive and the "powerpcspe" project. It fell out of the debian port in 2019.
It is in the archives here you can look for libraries and kernels.
But the system kernel itself is not everything.

One entry blows the general pessimism I found

"Could you not enable FPU emulation in the kernel by default? It would probably help compatibility and it would probably be possible to run Ubuntu 14.04 for powerpc in chroot. And it would probably help Debian as well. Debian's powerPCSPE port for E500v2 somehow works, but when you upgrade to the latest libc 2.19 it falls back on illegal instructions, and I'm guessing it's because the proper FPU is missing and emulation in the kernel is disabled (and some libraries are compiled badly in Debian, so it needs that). At least in the kernel log it looks the same as when I debootstrap Ubuntu and chroot to it and it immediately drops illegal instructions as well. At least I'm guessing it's FPU emulation, since the kernel for e500v2 is here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+p ... ge-3.13.0-65-powerpc-e500 and the packages are the same as the rest of the powerpc world, so maybe just a missing FPU that can be emulated (slowly) in the kernel."

Here you have the three branches of the Linux kernel:

https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/de ... erpcspe/main/l/linux-2.6/
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/de ... -powerpcspe/main/l/linux/
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/de ... -powerpcspe/main/l/linux/
you need to rebuild the initrd

There are also whole libraries to install under the e500v2

If someone has time ... a lot of time ... a lot of time and a lot of time can try it


qemu-system-ppc -cpu e500v2 -M mpc8544ds -m 2048 -nographic -kernel uImage-2.6.32-5-powerpcspe-smp  -append 'console=ttyS0,115200' -serial mon:stdio -smp 2                                         

[    0.000000] Using MPC8544 DS machine description

[    0.000000] Memory CAM mapping: 256/256/256 Mb, residual: 1280Mb

[    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset

[    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu

[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-5-powerpcspe-smp (Debian 2.6.32-27+powerpcspe1) (bigeasy@linutronix.de) (gcc version 4.4.4 (Debian 4.4.4-4+powerpcspe4.5) ) #1 SMP Thu Nov 18 23:53:20 UTC 2010

[    0.000000] CPU maps initialized for 1 thread per core

[    0.000000] bootconsole [udbg0] enabled

setup_arch: bootmem

mpc85xx_ds_setup_arch()

[    0.000000] Found FSL PCI host bridge at 0x00000000e0008000. Firmware bus number: 0->255

[    0.000000] PCI host bridge /pci@e0008000  ranges:

[    0.000000]  MEM 0x00000000c0000000..0x00000000dfffffff -> 0x00000000c0000000 

[    0.000000]   IO 0x00000000e1000000..0x00000000e100ffff -> 0x0000000000000000

[    0.000000] /pci@e0008000: PCICSRBAR @ 0xfff00000

[    0.000000] MPC85xx DS board from Freescale Semiconductor

arch: exit

[    0.000000] Zone PFN ranges:

[    0.000000]   DMA      0x00000000 -> 0x00030000

[    0.000000]   Normal   0x00030000 -> 0x00030000

[    0.000000]   HighMem  0x00030000 -> 0x00080000

[    0.000000] Movable zone start PFN for each node

[    0.000000] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges

[    0.000000]     0: 0x00000000 -> 0x00080000

[    0.000000] MMU: Allocated 1088 bytes of context maps for 255 contexts

[    0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 9 pages/cpu @c151e000 s13152 r8192 d15520 u65536

[    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: s13152 r8192 d15520 u65536 alloc=16*4096

[    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 [0] 1 

[    0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 520192

[    0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200

[    0.000000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)

[    0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)

[    0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)

[    0.000000] Memory: 2072812k/2097152k available (4468k kernel code, 23564k reserved, 248k data, 463k bss, 204k init)

[    0.000000] Kernel virtual memory layout:

[    0.000000]   * 0xfffe0000..0xfffff000  : fixmap

[    0.000000]   * 0xff800000..0xffc00000  : highmem PTEs

[    0.000000]   * 0xff7ec000..0xff800000  : early ioremap

[    0.000000]   * 0xf1000000..0xff7ec000  : vmalloc & ioremap

[    0.000000] SLUB: Genslabs=13, HWalign=32, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=2, Nodes=1

[    0.000000] Hierarchical RCU implementation.

[    0.000000] NR_IRQS:512

[    0.000000] mpic: Setting up MPIC " OpenPIC  " version 1.2 at e0040000, max 2 CPUs

[    0.000000] mpic: ISU size: 256, shift: 8, mask: ff

[    0.000000] mpic: Initializing for 256 sources

[    0.000000] clocksource: timebase mult[a00000] shift[22] registered

[    0.000000] Console: colour dummy device 80x25

[    0.009528] Security Framework initialized

[    0.011699] SELinux:  Disabled at boot.

[    0.012691] Mount-cache hash table entries: 512

[    0.024495] Initializing cgroup subsys ns

[    0.026297] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct

[    0.026688] Initializing cgroup subsys devices

[    0.027001] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer

[    0.027211] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls

[    0.043052] mpic: requesting IPIs ... 

[    0.064806] Processor 1 found.

[    0.167306] Brought up 2 CPUs

[    0.180770] devtmpfs: initialized

[    0.195518] regulator: core version 0.5

[    0.199358] NET: Registered protocol family 16

             

[    0.219349] PCI: Probing PCI hardware

[    0.251052] bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0

[    0.259573] vgaarb: loaded

[    0.269419] Switching to clocksource timebase

[    0.495565] NET: Registered protocol family 2

[    0.498837] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)

[    0.504307] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)

[    0.507001] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)

[    0.508605] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)

[    0.508955] TCP reno registered

[    0.511122] NET: Registered protocol family 1

[    0.526775] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)

[    0.528728] type=2000 audit(0.312:1): initialized

[    0.552809] highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages

[    0.576776] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.2

[    0.578109] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)

[    0.584408] msgmni has been set to 1489

[    0.669025] alg: No test for stdrng (krng)

[    0.669958] Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 253)

[    0.670438] io scheduler noop registered

[    0.670623] io scheduler anticipatory registered

[    0.670784] io scheduler deadline registered

[    0.671328] io scheduler cfq registered (default)

[    0.690832] Generic non-volatile memory driver v1.1

[    0.691516] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled

[    0.704942] serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0xe0004500 (irq = 42) is a 16550A

[    0.709787] console [ttyS0] enabled, bootconsole disabled

[    0.709787] console [ttyS0] enabled, bootconsole disabled

[    0.716890] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /devices/virtual/input/input0

[    0.718209] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver

[    0.718944] ide-gd driver 1.18

[    0.721571] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice

[    0.723626] PowerPC Book-E Watchdog Timer Loaded

[    0.724547] EDAC MC: Ver: 2.1.0 Nov 18 2010

[    0.727540] Freescale(R) MPC85xx EDAC driver, (C) 2006 Montavista Software

[    0.733351] TCP cubic registered

[    0.736612] NET: Registered protocol family 10

[    0.750707] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions

[    0.755813] Mobile IPv6

[    0.756434] NET: Registered protocol family 17

[    0.759125] registered taskstats version 1

[    0.764001] /mnt/space/linux-2.6/unstable/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_powerpcspe_none/drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)

[    0.765326] Initalizing network drop monitor service

[    0.768273] List of all partitions:

[    0.769938] No filesystem could mount root, tried: 

[    0.770545] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)

Edited by smarkusg on 2023/8/5 21:24:14

xeno74

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/8 14:03 #34

Just popping in

@afxgroup

Have you already received my pm in the Hyperion forum? I sent you some infos and instructions about Debian PowerPCSPE and QEMU last week.

Edited by xeno74 on 2023/8/8 14:30:15

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/8 17:01 #35

Amigans Defender

Thanks mate! Replied!

i'm really tired...

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2023/8/8 17:17 #36

Quite a regular

@xeno74
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Anonymous

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

#37

@all

i think i might be right here?

question:
is it possible to have a debugger running over an emulated (QEmu?) version of AmigaOS4?
Does something like this exist?
Some debugger that works outside the emulation sandbox and monitors/writes everything that happens to f.e. registers, stack etc. INSIDE the emulation?

Would that maybe create more information after a program crashes, maybe even helpful backtraces (or step by step debugging?)?

Grim Reaper and even the serial log doesn't really help for me (tried with crashes numerous times), especially when using shared objects.

Thank you

noXLar

Re: QEMU, e500 and Linux

Posted on: 2024/4/4 20:40 #38

Not too shy to talk

@All

I'm interested trying out emulating OS4 on my pc.. i use a fast pc but, i'm wondering what OS version to use, i have my 460ex and the Boot Cd/ISO for OS4..
and i also have OS4 Classic for PPC boards. i don't have Pegasys OS4, is it needed?
also i read much of the information guides for made by balaton, assuming it his work.
And seems i can use what i have to make it work, but is it the best?

My pc is Win11 AMD CPU 7900X + 7900 XTX GPU.. what is the best way to get OS4 emulated on this system?

nox

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