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[A1222] Catweasel 4 PCI + Radeon graphics card: Possible combo?
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The topic says it all, like the say. Browsing the official A1222 homepage (which hasn't been updated since December, 2020) you get the impression that A-EON's upcoming Amiga 1222 has two PCI expansion slots:

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x4 PCIe gen 1 link allows data rates of 2.5Gb/s per lane
x16 PCIe compatible connector to support Radeon RX graphics cards

Since there isn't a single photo of the Amiga 1222 (you read that right - not a single photo showing the product), how this should be interpreted is anyone's guess. Assuming, however, that there are two different PCI slots - one rated with x4 speed, and one with x16 speed, would it be doable to install a Catweasel 4 PCI floppy controller as well as a Radeon graphics card into the motherboard?

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You need a adpaper, PCIe to PCI, I guess some Sam460 owners have some experience with that maybe.

I don’t know don’t have the hardware.

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Line 1 deals with the specs.
Line 2 deal with the connector.

There is only one slot on the motherboard .
A x16 PCIe compatible connector .

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Something about a1222. Even photos, more or less final :)

https://amigang.com/hardware-amigaone-a1222/

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In my experience Catweasel support under OS4 is flakey at best.

On my X1000 I don't have DF0: mountlist in devs:dosdrivers as it stops my x1000 from booting. catweasel.device has not been updated by Ian in a long time. 2012 IIRC

I could never get either a 6581,swinsid or 8580 to work using VICE and pass c64 audio from the catweasel output into the X1000 audio input header on the motherboard.

I still have a MK4 in my X1000 currently populated with a swinsid, but it only ever used on the very rare occasion i need to put a floppy disk in my X1000 which is almost never.

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Since there isn't a single photo of the Amiga 1222 (you read that right - not a single photo showing the product), how this should be interpreted is anyone's guess. Assuming, however, that there are two different PCI slots - one rated with x4 speed, and one with x16 speed, would it be doable to install a Catweasel 4 PCI floppy controller as well as a Radeon graphics card into the motherboard?

Nope, there is only one physical PCIe x16 slot on the board itself. You cannot plug more than one card without some sort of PCIe fan-out adapter, which would most likely require kernel support.

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In theory Catweasel MK2 should work if you use a SATA to IDE adapter and the IDE kit Amigakit sell for the X1000.

The main difficulty with the Catweasel is probably finding one for sale.

If you need to transfer software from floppy to NG hardware the easiest way is to turn it into ADF and write to some other media such as CD or USB stick but I understand that may not be possible depending whether or not you have classic hardware and how expanded it is.

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You need a adpaper, PCIe to PCI, I guess some Sam460 owners have some experience with that maybe.


Thank you for clarifying.

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There is only one slot on the motherboard .
A x16 PCIe compatible connector .


Got it - only one slot. From what I understand of what has been said in this thread so far, it seems like the A1222 Kickstart needs to support adapters, though.

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Something about a1222. Even photos, more or less final :)


Thank you. I know that there are low-res photos of the A1222 available, but I'm still baffled you have to actively search from them from third-party sources. Why the official homepage doesn't offer one single photo is beyond me.

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catweasel.device has not been updated by Ian in a long time


"Ian"?

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You cannot plug more than one card without some sort of PCIe fan-out adapter, which would most likely require kernel support.


Got it. Thank you - and I suppose that Hyperion will have to implement support in the Kickstart ROM then?

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"Ian"?

http://www.retroreview.com/iang/Catweasel/

Yes, he continued my work, I don’t have his changes, I have the original code he changed, the one he got only had DD support, but source code on my hard drive did have HD support but not released, I had problems with insatiability and corruption, I was stuck. My approach was different to his, he did not like automatic detection, but that’s what I tried to do.

I had no SID support, and no SID chip to plug into it.. So never worked on it.

Also Ian added support for C64 disk formats or something like that…

I believe he completed the AROS bunty using my work, that based on Linux drivers someone else wrote. It got complicated… he did give me some credit for my work, and he did contribute to driver. I’m not mad about it.


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Edited by LiveForIt on 2022/9/26 7:44:28
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I believe he dropped out of the amiga game since, wrote him two emails, never got an answer

would you mind sharing your sources on github?
maybe he'll add his changes too, so they won't get forgotten/bitrot?

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This branch’s want be mergeable, they gone off different directions.

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I see...too bad

I don't have a Catweasel anymore...gave it to someone who will use it more than i did, but it would still be nice to have the driver/software preserved somewhere...

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