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Re: Official release date of Doom3 for AmigaOS4
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@MamePPCA1

Warp3D Nova compatible card so Radeon Si or Polaris cards. Older cards like like 5450 are not supported.

Since you have an X5000 Radeon RX550 - RX580 cards are the best option for you.

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Re: Official release date of Doom3 for AmigaOS4
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@HunoPPC

Email sent.

For anyone interested Doom 3 is currently on sale on steam for £0.99 until 7th of July.

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Re: Official release date of Doom3 for AmigaOS4
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@amig_os

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How do I know I have or not at all EGL_Wrap.library,Opengles 2.0 and Warp3D NOVA?


Your signature says you have an AmigaOne XE. The required Radeon SI/Polaris video cards don't work with the XE. You need an X1000, X5000 or a Sam460 to be able run this game.

@Templario

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I understand you, if the people want games will demostrate their interest, unfortunately I am sorry but in this trip in the Amiga hobby I leave to play and use the AmigaOS4, if not I will buy the keyfile like I did for your the great game 1942.


The exacutable is registered to users for beta testing purposes and no money is required.

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Re: Show your AmigaOS 4.x computer or Workbench!
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@AmigaOldskooler

The desktop case appears to be a Checkmate A1500 Plus.

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Re: What cases for the new ACube 460
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@pjs

Your current case is unsuitable. It is designed for ITX motherboards with the option of dual slot video card. You won't able to get a riser card that turns the Sam460 x16 slot into 2 slots and even if you could you'd likelyrun into mechanical problems fitting a card into the bottom slot.

If you want a slim case you'll need to get a low profile Micro ATX case.

Link

Having done a quick search there does seem to be a few places still selling low profile Radeon RX550 & RX560 cards which should come with a low profile bracket and it should be fairly easy to get low profile sound cards ans SATA controllers.

A suitbale video card would be something like this.

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Re: What cases for the new ACube 460
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@kas1e

Remember the new revized Sam460 introduces an area of deadspace between the PCIe x16 slot and the PCI slot meaning you don't need any special solutions when fitting a double slot video card. The case you used for the regular Sam460 also wouldn't be suitable for the new board.

@pjs

like sailor said any case with 4 slots will do but avoid low profile cases since it will limit your choice when it comes to video cards.

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Re: Scorpion Engine
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@khayoz

Something like Scorpion for OS4 would be better for people with no programming experience who just want to focus on level design and gameplay.

Maybe it's something A-EON should look into making since it would open up the potential to a lot of original games and remakes for OS4.

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Re: Scorpion Engine
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@Chris

Seems like about 80% of 68k games in development or recently released are made using Scorpion. It'd be nice to have something similar for OS4.

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Wipeout source code released.
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https://twitter.com/forestillusion/status/1508048268176990209

"The following is the source code to Wipeout by Psygnosis, a futuristic racing game set in 2052, which ended up as a launch title for the PlayStation in Europe! It includes the source to both the original PSX game as well as it’s Windows port. Please note that it is currently unknown if these sources are fully buildable."

https://illusion.64history.net/2022/wipeout-psx-windows-source

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Re: Are AmigaKit still selling X5000 machines?
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@Skateman

Relec systems always look good.

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Re: Should I expect better video playback performance? (Southern Island/X1000 Updates)
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@amigakit

I understand that driver development is costly but it wasn't made clear during Amiwest that an additional purchase was required to actually use the VA driver for SI cards.

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So far I've spent well over £200 on Radeon drivers and Enhancer packs for just 1 system. Something drastic clearly needs to be done to expand the user base so that costs to the individual user can be lowered significantly. Making 100 A1222+ boards for pre-order customers and maybe some later clearly isn't going to cut it.

A collaboration with Elbox to make Mediator style OS4 compatible hardware should also be seriously considered since a lot of people seem to be prepared to spend considerable amounts upgrading their classic hardware in some way or another.

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Re: Should I expect better video playback performance?
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@amigakit

How about people who bought DVPlayer V54 on the promise of a Radeon SI VA driver. Will they have to make another purchase to get this functionality?

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Re: Paolo Cattini's VGP 3 for OS4 a real possibility.
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@arfcarl

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Get the source (for maybe a small amount of money).


It won't happen for this reason.

Providing the source code to a third party... this is a thing that at the moment is a bit unfeasible, it's a long story but it has to do with my current work, related to a deal with a professional simulator developer company, and AVC, the car physics library the VGP3 engine is based upon.

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Don't waste money on hardware just for one port.


If the game was availble for €25 to buy it would most likely easily sell more than 100 copies. In that context an X5000 in exchange for a free download doesn't sound like a bad deal. The bigger concern for most people is that he can't guatantee that he can spend much time on it.

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Re: Paolo Cattini's VGP 3 for OS4 a real possibility.
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@kas1e

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if it is SDL2 and written with portability in mind, then you better just got sources of GPV3 and I can port it for free. You can be sure if anyone says you from the beginning about no-time/spare-time/etc you can be sure nothing will be done.


We have nothing to lose asking and I'd already mentioned you as someone experience in porting software to OS4 during our correspondance. He'd probably want you to sign some kind agreement since the engine is continuosly developed and not some legacy code from a decade ago and he has previously licensed it to third parties.

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alternatively if you can drop me his mail i may try to write him with an offer to port it


I'll PM you.

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Maybe he will be ok with just 200-300$ as a bonus, and everyone won.


Another option could be for him to sell the completed OS4 port which would earn him more money and we wouldn't need to raise any money upfront.

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PM sent

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Re: Paolo Cattini's VGP 3 for OS4 a real possibility.
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@Raziel

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I was burned by such endeavours before and won't waste money towards a questionable "maybe, it could be possible, I don't say it will and I probably won't have time" probability.


The maybe is over whether it can be ported with little work not wether it can be ported at all. He previously delivered on VGP2 for MorphOS and the same offer was open to OS4 but nobody took the initiative to send hardware.

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More reasonable would be used Sam of whatever hardware...


That depends on a Sam460 or X1000 being available on the second hand market. No other OS4 hardware is really suitable.

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Re: Paolo Cattini's VGP 3 for OS4 a real possibility.
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@NinjaCyborg

I didn't ask but I assume he's still in Italy.

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Paolo Cattini's VGP 3 for OS4 a real possibility.
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In the last few days I've been in contact with Paolo and asked if he'd be willing to port VGP2 or VGP3 to OS4 if we were to provide him with suitable hardware.

He told me that it might be difficult for him to retrive the sources for VGP2 but said that if we have OpenGL 2.1 VGP3 should be possible although he has limited time at the moment.

I let him know about GL4ES and here is his response posted with permission.

What could I say... from the "I like the idea" point of view it could be great to do a port of the VGP3 engine for OS4! The only problem is that I'd do it in my spare time and at the moment I'm a bit short of it... but yes, it could be done! The good news is that the VGP3 engine is written in a very portable C++, and in its latest installment it even uses SDL2 to interface itself with the OS... so, IF everything works as expected, I'm not saying that it will be a simple "recompile it for a different target", but... probably... it won't require TOO much work to port it to OS4 (hopefully)..

The hope would be to get an X5000 sytem out to him since this is the only OS4 capable hardware currently available to purchase.

The current options for sourcing the hardware are;

Amedia. They sell complete systems but the HD5450 would need to be replaced with a more suitable video card.

Relec. They sell complete systems and and it seems that an R7 250 is suplied.

GGS Data. They sell the motherboard only, leaving us to source the rest of the components.

Ideally the system shoud have an RX560 or better and we also need to factor in the cost of Enhancer 2.x as well, and maybe we can get A-EON to provide the latest stable non public components.

Anyhow, now it's time to open a discussion on funding platforms and any other considerations.

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Re: Tell me I bought the correct video card
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@rjd324

The only card listed as incompatible in that range is the 7790 so you should be fine.

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Re: Wanted Eyetech AmigaOne XE
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@Evillord68

Not if you intend to use to use a PCIe card since you have to disable IDE DMA and USB on a "fixed" AmigaONE XE. Alan Redhouse advised against applying the fix warning there may be unforseen consequences. This is the unforseen consequence.

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Re: Virtual GP on OS4?
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@samo79

At one time Paolo Cattani was offering to port VGP2 if he was provided with OS4 hardware but now with GL4ES on OS4 VGP3 could be a candidate for porting.

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