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Timberwolf beta 4 available
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I just uploaded a new beta version of Timberwolf to OS4depot.net (it popped up in the upload queue already, so if you want to grab it early, go get it).

Besides bug fixes, the new version implements some major new features:

- Drag & Drop support (customizing, bookmark sorting)
- Clipboard support (text only at the moment)
- Sound support (can now play video and audio streams)
- Some internal changes. NSPR threads completely rewritten to cope with NSPR's pecularities of condition variables.

The latter change is pretty fundamental, and even though I tested it substantially, I'm interested in seeing how it performs. Therefore, please report freezes or similar hangups as well, resp. add your findings to an existing bug on our bugtracker.

As always, donations are welcome on AmigaBounty.net (Click me, I'm a magical link)

IMPORTANT: Please also read the readme, it looks pretty and contains some vital information regarding the bookmark saving.

Have fun

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Excellent news: thank you.

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THANKS! You deserve the bounty!

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THANKS! You deserve the bounty!


Yes, I do

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Thank you, can't wait to get home, download it and have a play

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Great news, thanks.

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Posting from beta4 now. :)

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Only three words

Heep heep Hurra

And thanks a lot

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Many thanks! Posting from it now :)

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Nice Work!

Thanks for the continuing work and commitment!

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Great way to start off a long weekend!

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Hre trying to visit an URL (www.amigans.net) and it stays in a loop forever!!!
Seems doesn't translate/get the DNS/URL/or_whaterver_is_called properly here.
I can't broser the internet with TWbeta4 (using AOS4.1upd4).
The same URL with MUIowb works fine.

Will check it further

EDIT: now works, seems one of the prefs/OPTIONS I chnage make some weird effect on browsing the web. Stay tuned

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thank for the update!

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Thanks, I’m at work, so can’t test it right now….
Looking forward to getting home.

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Nice!

Just gave it a quick spin, the sound and video are working on youtube.com which is great news, a little too slow to be useful on my SAM Flex though.

Pages seem to load quite quickly then the CPU levels stay high for a while afterwards without anything obvious going on.

Will give it another try later....


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@tfrieden Quote:
- Drag & Drop support (customizing, bookmark sorting)

This was unexpected, but very handy. (It doesn't seem to work quite right in some cases, so some bug reports will no-doubt be forthcoming!)

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- Clipboard support (text only at the moment)

Thanks! This finally means I can use Timberwolf to reply on forums (like this post!).

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- Sound support (can now play video and audio streams)

Seems to work (but of course not that useful on YouTube until graphics updates are optimised).

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Nice.

For the next bug I choose the one that will make all people in videos and pictures on the web look like the Simpsons.

Love the Clipboard thingy.



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Hi there,

great new version, it s faster, more stable and simply awesome

I have one little problem regarding bookmarks and wanted to ask here before i open a bugreport

I cannot save them...
They are simply not saved when i click on the yellow star, nothing happens.

Someone suggested to delete places.sqlite and start over but it doesn t work either...

What i have is places.sqlite, places.sqlite-journal and places.sqlite.corrupt...maybe there is the culprit?
Why does it create a .corrupt file on the very first bookmark i try to save?

I have RANDOM started with the tooltype ACTIVATE=1 in devs/dosdrivers

Timberwolf is on a JXFS partition

Please help, it s driving me mad

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Regarding sound: Yeah, YouTube is too slow, but then, I wouldn't really suspect a software solution to be usable. I'll see if there's anything I can do in terms of assembler optimization (the X86 version has a few AFAIK), so it might be usable.

What works quite well is the replay of sound streams like podcasts and sounds from Wikipedia (my testcase for sound replay)


CPU load: The CPU load is probably due to a high frequency "heartbeat" that executes all the time. I'm looking into it, I guess that since we're using the "combined" thread model that also supports "local" threads (implemented via setjmp/longjmp), this is responsible for scheduling local threads. However, the AmigaOS implementation uses only global threads (i.e. system level), so it should not be necessary. I'll see that I'll get rid of it.


Drag&Drop: This was somewhat of a challenge. The Amiga does not have a drag&drop protocol, so it had to be implemented from scratch, fully inside Timberwolf. A "sprite" like approach similar to workbench wouldn't work since it would require locking the bitmap, which would kill off the highlighting of drop targets or spring-loaded folders in the bookmarks. So I went for a transparent window approach, which might be slow on machines without hardware accelerated compositing. I'll check if there's a possibility to use placeholders that are simply empty box outlines instead of showing the full picture.

Simpsons: Uhm, no

For an example of a video that actually works quite decently on my Pegasos II, you might want to look at this article on Wikipedia (scroll down a bit, larger version is available by clicking the symbol below the video). Far from impressive, I know, but it's a start.

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Looks faster on my Flex and even a bit more stable, that's great !

However i have a few question:

Does issue 734 (drag&drop) and 756 (Automatic auto-allineament issue) fixed ?

I ask because i try to drop a txt or a readme text file over the browser but nothing happen (i have the usual X pointer) and when i open a subwindow this will be opened at certain position and then will be centered automatically as before

So that bugs that was marked as fixed in bugtracker in reality does not seems fixed .. or i miss somethings

Also download still not work, i try to download Hurrican from OS4Depot, the download window will be opened but no file was showed inside it, no file, no progress advancement ecc .. only a blank download window ... then after i while i got this popup error:

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:hurrican.lha could not be saved, because an uknown error occourred.
Try saving to a different location.


I saved it in RAM:

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