Browservice on X1000 and Sam460LE with Odyssey 1.23

As already mentionned I managed to have Browservice working with Odyssey 1.23.

First, a video here : https://video.amiga-ng.org/w/wbu1E5CDVz6qLCXeH1gDmW

Now, let's talk about how to make it work.

I installed Browservice on a Mac Pro 2013 (the famous trashcan) running Linux Mageia 9. This one a 8 cores at 3.0 Ghz.

I only had to download browservice.app from https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice

The latest version is here : https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.12.0

Here is the command I'm using to make it work :

./browservice-v0.9.12.0-x86_64.AppImage --vice-opt-http-listen-addr=0.0.0.0:2571 --chromium-args=use-gl-desktop --data-dir=$HOME/.browservice/cefdata --show-soft-navigation-buttons=YES --start-page=https://www.google.fr --vice-opt-http-auth=USER:PASSWORD

Replace USER and PASSWORD by what you want. Using it is more secure.

So I've been using it with success since two days now.

A you will see on the video, Odyssey tries to refresh everytime it receives the datas. If using PNG, it will refresh like hell.

So I switched to 95% quality JPG with my X1000 and 70% JPG quality with the Sam460. Maybe it should be better with an AmigaOne X5000.

Things to know :

* When accessing a new page with Browservice, you have to validate a second time the URL with Enter key. I don't know why (maybe it's coming from Odyssey).

* Odyssey doesn't send the right clic mouse button (so you cannot open link in a new tab).

* If you try to use the backspace key, it will go back to the previous page.

* You need lots of RAM (2GB is the minimum).

These flaws come from Odyssey (refreshing included) since I tried Browservice with MorphOS: Odyssey has the same drawbacks.

Wayfarer works perfectly with Browservice albeit not much faster (I did not make any video, I will do it if someone asks) but faster than Wayfarer internal rendering. And it consumes less memory.

Anyway, Browservice has changed the way I'm using AmigaOS 4.1 since I don't have to revert to another OS to surf the web now.

Now, it make me wonder this:

What if you install a Raspberry 4 in your computer? The role of this Rpi4 would be to be connected to the Internet and launch Browservice. Odyssey would have to only connect to it to use Browservice.

Manys Classic users have installed PiStorm : this would be the same thing.

The development part would be to enhance Odyssey (or create a new browser) whose goal would be to use the GPU (GL ?) to accelerate the rendering of the pages (clearly display PNG or JPG faster) and using the whole memory of the graphic card.

The second important part for this browser is Javascript already supported by Odyssey.

I see a huge potential here but maybe I'm wrong.

Note: IBrowse and Netsurf are not working with Browservice but it would be great if IBrowse had a JS more cente to use it.

@K-L

Thanks for the video, I find it very interesting.

Unfortunately, I use MacOS and not Linux on my main computer. Otherwise, I would have tested it myself.

Otherwise, that would have been a good solution for me, as I usually use both computers (X5000/MacStudion) at the same time.

@Maijestro

A simple RPi4 would do the trick

My X1000 has become my main computer again!

@K-L
If you use the QT Browser, the one included with QTminimal (osdepot) combined with Browservice.

The browser is very fast, but it's very slow with Odyssey; you should try it.
The videos on YouTube are very fast.
But after using it for a while, it freezes. I've never understood why.
Whoever deals with this should find out.

Note:
QT Developer

or this one:
https://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... ser/internetsurfboard.lha

Works great with Browservice.
It should be adapted.

Odyssey, on the other hand, is slow with Browservice.
On the other hand, OWB for 68k with Browservice is a breeze; you can open sites like Amazon in a few seconds.

A developer should understand why, but I already said this years ago.
And no one investigated further.

With OWB and QTBrowser you can use PNG without compromises in this case you have selected "79" as I see instead of PNG

@white

Thanks ! I will give this a try !

@K-L

Quote:

I don't want to buy another computer, no matter how small it is

@white

Forget about any browser with QT : all the memory (graphic AND main RAM) is eaten in a few seconds.

I have tested with InternetSurfboard and QtWebBrowser.This is why you froze your system (always use a system monitor to check what is happening in real time).

So far, only Odyssey can display Browservice.

@K-L
Thanks,
I finally know why
Was he quick to use it ?

who knows if it could be corrected

Yes IBrowse for 4.1 is unable to use it.

Yes, I had tested them
Odyssey QtBrowser
And
OWB for 68k is virtually instant.