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Warp3D SI : The fastest card
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As we have now a lot of cards to choice for new warp3d driver, imho will be nice to know, what one in _reality_ (i mean, in real live, and from os4 side, not by some theoretic bench-marking on PC or from PC ezines), be faster one. Plz, help to fill the table !

My bet is that we can just test those ones:

1). Quake3 (usual "timedemo 1 / demo four"). Be sure it is IOquake from HunoPPC (download it here). Test mode: 1280x1024
2). Cow3D (just default run. _without_ pressing "b").

Please be sure you do tests on os4.1 final edition.

All tests done on minigl 2.20 and w3d_si 1.9

So by collecting 5-10 results, we at least can see the winner and everyone can choice the best card.

Current table:

1.
Owner: spectre660
HW: Sam460ex with Radeon HD7750
quake3 timedemo1: ~30fps
cow3d: 114-119FPS

2.
Owner: zzd10h
HW: X1000 with R7-250X
quake3 timedemo1: ~51fps
cow3d: 90-95FPS


3.
Owner: imagodespira
HW: Sam460 with Club3D Radeon R7 250E
quake3 timedemo1: ~20FPS
cow3d: ???

4.
Owner: mufa
HW: X1000 with Gigabyte R9 270
quake3 timedemo1: 53 FPS
cow3d: ???

5.
Owner: Sinan
HW: Sam460 with Asus R7 265
quake3 timedemo1: 26 FPS
cow3d: 130FPS

6.
Owner: Breed
HW: X1000 with Radeon HD 7750
quake3 timedemo1: 41FPS
cow3d: 90-95FPS


7.
Owner: m3x
HW: Sam460cr 1.1Ghz with Radeon HD 7750
quake3 timedemo1: 26 fps
cow3d: 144 fps.

8
Owner: rob
HW: X1000 with Radeon R9 280 @ 850Mhz
quake3 timdemo1: ???
cow3d = ~94fps

9
Owner : Matt (Amikit)
HW: X5000 with XFX RadeonHD 7770
quake3 timedemo1: ???
cow3d: ~230fps

10
Owner: ddni
HW: x1000 with Radeon R9 270X 1000MHz Core, 1050MHz Boost, 5600MHz Memory
quake3 timedemo1: 52.3
cow3d: ???

11
Owner: Sofistisoftware
HW: Sam460ex 1.15 Ghz with Club3D Radeon R7 250E
quake3 timedemo1: 27.1
cow3d: 137

12
Owner: TiredOfLife
HW: Sam460cr with Radeon HD7770
quake3 timedemo1: ???
cow3d: 120


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Everyone welcome to discuss and suggest how make testing better, and thanks in advance !


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Re: Wapr3D SI: the fastest card
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AmigaOne X1000 & Gigabyte R9 270

Quake III (Ioqukae from HunoPPC) 1280x1024 - 53fps.

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@kas1e

Sam460 + Asus R7 265

Cow3D: 130 fps
Quake 3 Arena - 26fps

X5000 Beta:

Cow3D :)

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Re: Wapr3D SI: the fastest card
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@all
Added new results, but be sure that quake3 are the same for everyone: IoQuake from HunoPPC.

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Re: Wapr3D SI: the fastest card
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@kas1e

I'd be interested to know why the SAMs with 7750 cards are so much better with the Cow, than the same cards on the X1000...

edit: Punctuation and spelling

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@Raziel
As i found in google, even if ppls says that R7-250 are "rebranded 7750" , it is still slower than real HD7750. For example: there some compassion. Of course it is tests from windows, but at least there it also show that r7-250 a little slower than real hd7750.

Also probably zzd10h tests done on update6, and not on FE, maybe also related.

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Re: Wapr3D SI: the fastest card
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Quote:
Quake 3 Arena - 26fps


Ok but at what resolution and what version of Quake 3 ?
Please be specific, altrough it is not clear at all

Those are the general settings you should set:

Quote:
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GL extension ON
Video mode 640x480 or 800x600 or 1024x768 or 1280x1024
Color Depth 32bit
Fullscreen ON
Lighting Lightmap
Geometric Detail HIGH
Texture Detail Max Level
Texture Quality 32bit
Texture Filter Trilinear
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For example on my little Sam440 Flex 800 + Radeon 9250 i have those results:

Quote:
640x480 - 21,3/21,9 FPS
800x600 - 20,2 FPS
1024x768 - 17,3 FPS
1280x1024 - 13,6 FPS


Do the same with your computer + gfx


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@Kas1e
"Also probably zzd10h tests done on update6"

No, it was under FE.
Warp3D doesn't work under 4.1.6.

Where to download Cow3D and is the resolution matter ?
Mine is 1920x1080 32bits


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@Raziel & kas1e

Actually, it should depend on which R7 250 is being used. The 250X is like a rebranded 8760 or 7770 (Cape Verde XT chipset). The difference is that the 250X has 4.5GHz memory instead of 1125MHz.

The R7 250E is supposed to be a rebranded HD 7750 (Cape Verde PRO). The results of the 250E being slower than the 7750 seems strange given the difference in memory speed is again that of 4.5GHz versus 1125MHz. With that said, I've seen sites that say the effective memory speed of the 7750 is actually 4.5GHz, not 1125MHz. If that is the case, then there should be little difference between the two.

I've seen single slot variants of both the HD 7750 and R7 250E. Since the above tests suggest the 7750 is faster, and the price is slightly lower than the 250E, I may have to change my plans for my next graphics card purchase.

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@interrogative

True, there are differences in the cards, but just look at the entries 1 and 6...both have the same card, but the Sam practically stomps the X1000

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@zzd10h

Resolution doesn't matter, i tried, window size stays the same, so it's probably because of that

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@Samo79
thanks for the confirmation, it was the version that I had.

@Raziel,
true, tried in 1920x1080 or 1440x900, still 95 fps.


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Can anyone remember the speeds they were getting with cow in wazp3d and 9250?

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Hello

Note
that Cow3D is a pure Warp3D prog (No MiniGL nor GL nor Mesa inside)
So with Cow3D you benchmark the cpu_doing_the_rotation + warp3D_drawing_speed

When typing the key 'b' you bufferize all the rotations vertices ( I mean the CPU no more compute the rotation)
So then benchmark only the warp3D_drawing_speed

Alain Thellier - Cow3D & Wazp3D

BTW Does someone tested the Microbe3D's Demo-View tool with this new Warp3D ?

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"BTW Does someone tested the Microbe3D's Demo-View tool with this new Warp3D ?"

Yes, I tested it, Bears or all your others animated objects work fine. (RxMicrobe3D too)

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Sam460cr 1.1Ghz / 440 Mhz DDR2 with new U-Boot
VTX Radeon HD 7750
driver RadeonHD.chip 2.7
driver W3D_SI 1.8
minigl 2.20

640x480 - 30.2 FPS
800x600 - 29.3 FPS
1024x768 - 28.2 FPS
1280x1024 - 26.7 FPS

Cow3D: 144 fps.

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X1000 - R7 250X

Quake3D - ioQuake from HunoPPC - TimeDemo 1 in 1280x1024 =

50.9 fps

see here :

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum ... t_id=96483#forumpost96483


Why X1000 is very better than SAM460 on Quake3 and very worst on Cow3D ???


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testgl_net_amigaos4 doesn't work for me under FE...

Crash log for task "testgl_net_amigaos4"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.19
Crash occured in module testgl_net_amigaos4 at address 0x7EE8D4C4
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception
Alert number: 0x80000003

Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x7EE8D4C4 belongs to module "testgl_net_amigaos4" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
module testgl_net_amigaos4 at 0x7EE8D4C4 (section 5 @ 0x4A0)
module testgl_net_amigaos4 at 0x7EE9034C (section 5 @ 0x3328)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d0c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002ee8
_start()+0x170 (section 1 @ 0x16C)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x00024c18
native kernel module kernel+0x00042654
native kernel module kernel+0x000426d4

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