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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Yeah, I'm glad that the Friedens decided to focus on OS 4.1, and use the best features available rather than reducing to the lowest common features that the various OSes have.
Hans


+ 1,000,000 (to the power of infinity)

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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now question is: When?

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@seiyas

When it's done ?:))

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@seiyas

Have patience.

Maybe late next year maybe??? Who knows. But i'm excited.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Am I the only one who thinks this is bullcrap?

AmigaOS3 NetSurf VS Firefox 68k

Ah hes changed the title at last! I dont like liers!

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@magic
I think he was supposed to title it as:
68K Netsurf vs (RDP) Firefox on OS4.1

yeah... that would be much better...

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Plugins from firefox/Timberwolf will work also ????


Some Firefox addons will require certain OS versions. The generic ones though should work.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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I hope this doesnot mean we will never see Firefox on OS3.x


See, this is one of the things that irks me. Why oh why do people think that because we don't do it, it will never happen? Why do people (especially over at aw.net) behave like we're actively hindering the work on other OSes? The source code for Firefox has been out for YEARS, and yet nobody could get his act together and port it. Why does the fact that we are doing it now change ANYTHING for the other "camps"?

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@seiyas

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now question is: When?


Right now it's "When it's Done". I'll try to qualify this a bit.

What we are working on right now is 'widget'. That is the part of Mozilla/Gecko that copes with mapping to the native window system. Gecko assumes a hierarchical system where you have windows and child windows, which we don't have on AmigaOS so we need to simulate this. This has repercussions in the way that e.g. input events are handled (they need to go the "child" window).

Widget is really the biggest chunk in getting the Browser to work on AmigaOS. Once that is done, most of the browser should work. Most of the browser actually DOES work already, however, it will freeze after a second or two trying to display something.

We'd also like to adapt as many Amiga-specific features as possible. For example, I hope we can make the menus work like AmigaOS menus. This will mostly depend on the requirements for menus, and how much needs to be changed within the system to get this to work. Early versions might work without such features and go for the plain stuff.

All in all, we hope to have an alpha version by the end of the year. HOPE because for one thing we cannot really predict the amount of work left and what kind of problems are still there, and also because the MAP ("most ambitious project") is taking up a lot of time, and will do so even more in the coming weeks, meaning Timberwolf will be going down in terms of time spend on it.

Hope this answers it a bit. As it is now, we cannot give any firm commitment to a date, since all of this is a hobby project, and I have ArmA II installed on my PC as well

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@Rogue

Don't run, we have waited so long for a modern browser, so waiting a little bit more will not surely kill us

In the meanwhile we have OWB

Good Work !

P.S.: hope to see OS 4.1 update as soon as possible

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@Rogue

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Why do people (especially over at aw.net) behave like we're actively hindering the work on other OSes? The source code for Firefox has been out for YEARS, and yet nobody could get his act together and port it. Why does the fact that we are doing it now change ANYTHING for the other "camps"?


Maybe others developpers feel to not have the knowledge and time to do a port of Firefox untill now...

As you have seen, you have announced that you port Firefox that nobody think you don't arrive to do that but better all know you will success and immediately give money to the bounty Thats great finally

I think now maybe other developpers (like with owb or netsurf) would like to port to another platform with the work you will done on the port (and partly paid by the bounty) and they are sure you will refuse the cooperation (they maybe not tried to ask you and think you will refuse) ????

Maybe just a few programmers could port something big like firefox to the amiga, and It's not a speedy port, but with the amiga code inside, but there are maybe more candidate to port to other platforms.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@Rogue

I think you're doing a great job. On aw there are certain people ONLY whining. Glad i'm not you,i would have "clicked" in my head a 1000 times allready. I'm really looking forward to this port. As a coincidense this weekend i tested my dads laptop. And he had isntalled firefox. I don't really understand why everyone is critising it for being crap. Worked like a charm on his vista machine. Kust like any other browsers.

Keep up the good work.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Is it only me, or ...? I am totally overwhelmed by the reactions to this announcement. Two brothers do a port of some software in their spare time - and the forums seem to explode. Panic, hysterical reactions, hatred, everything someone can imagine. Wow.

I did not have that extreme close-up look to the "community" until last year, 'cos I used my OS3.9 setups and where not interested in Amiga NG stuff, be it MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x. I was not interested in UAE stuff. I was not interested in AROS stuff. Only my two OS3.9 Amigas. I'm a littlebit autistic in these topics

Now I own a SAM and OS4.1, NOW I'm interested in OS4-related stuff and tried to learn a littlebit about the history since the last OS update (3.9). A I learned about the whole struggle between ... o.k., I won't repeat it here. But in the end of the day a lot of things are YEARS behind us! And STILL there's so much emotion in the forums. Incredible (for me, at least).


(P.S.: I'm still not interested in AROS. And still not interested in UAE. And I loose interest in my OS3.9 setups. I can't concentrate on too much things parallel... )

(P.S.II:
@Rogue: I hope you and your brother have a positive kind of autism - to go on with your work!)

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Dunno, it seems pretty calm here on amigans ;)

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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Ok... NOW you have my attention.

Awesome News.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@Rogue Quote:
Why do people (especially over at aw.net) behave like we're actively hindering the work on other OSes?

You really shouldn't take a few vocal idiots seriously, and assume most think like that. I think most realise it's not your job to write OS3/etc software, and that Amizilla's failure is not your problem.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@cha05e90 Quote:
Panic, hysterical reactions, hatred, everything someone can imagine. Wow

Really? I thought the overall reaction was very positive. Mainly only bernd_afa decided to exploded in an orgy of incoherant unintelligible anger about it & spam AW.net.

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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I find it amazing that the MODS let him.
Clearly it was forseeable that he will keep on mugging already in his very first posts.

I pity that poor guy, he knows he's on a skinking boat but is too afraid (or too old?) to leave it.

@Frieden Bros.

Would you like my shrine of yours with candles or daylight?

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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@Raziel

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@Frieden Bros.

Would you like my shrine of yours with candles or daylight?


I've already sacrificed two goats here, and you haven't even got the candles sorted?

Chris

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Re: Firefox coming to OS4.1 !!!
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I find it amazing that the MODS let him.

If you want to provide moral support (no need to name names or threads, as this was simply the straw that broke the camels back), I started a thread here that could be relevant:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/v ... ?topic_id=29665&forum=7&0

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