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SCSI issues, help please
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Hi there,
now with OS4 final working, i am now trying to get the SCSI to work.
I have read through the docs on the OS4 install.
U-boot sees the SCSI card and the HD.
How do i get workbench to see the drive?

If i recall correctly, i use to mount cybpcc.device or scsi.device and it would show the drive.

Please, any help to move me in the right direction.

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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Hi 'nuts,

I take it this is on the A1?

You don't need any "xxx.device", what you need is a supported SCSI card (one with the lsi53c8xx chipset).

Then you need the device driver "lsi53c8xx.device.kmod" in Kickstart and in the kicklayout file. Nothing more.

It should just appear when you boot the machine. If not, try "info devices" and see what it says.

You might like to make sure that the partitions on the SCSI drive don't have the same names as any of your IDE drives.

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Hi Tony,
thanks for the info, all drives all present in kickstart and kickfile as part of the normal install.

I will continue with SCSI after i have fixed my network problem.

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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Hi Tony,

i am trying the SCSI card again.
U-boot sees the drives connected, but i can't see the drives on workbench or in media toolbox.

Do i have to mount the SCSI drives in mounter ?

Info devices doesn't show anything different.

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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@haslenuts

Which SCSI Card do you have?

Maybe you SCSI Chip is not supported by OS4...

Ei gude wie?

1x ?AOne-C (FX), 512MB RAM, OS4 Final July
1x A4000D EC030, 16MB Fast, OS3.1
1xA1200 (68030/50, 32 MB Fast RAM) OS3.1
1x CD??
1x A600 (40MB HDD) OS2.05 (broken joystick port)
2x A500 (1x 1MB) OS1.3
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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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@haslenuts

Maybe you can run pcitool to get vender and production id from the PCI card?

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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@haslenuts

Does the device name "lsi53c8xx.device.kmod" appear in the initial list of MediaToolbox ?

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Hi all,

The SCSI card is made by Asus and has the LSI chip on it.

pcicsan in uboot reports the correct vendor and production ID.

No, lsi53c8xx.device.kmod does not appear in the initial list of medaitoolbox.

I have red the docs on the lsi53c8xx.device and it says that there is nothing to do. the drives should just appear on workbench.

All the kmods as per the docs are in place (standard install).

Should i add the lsi53c8xx.device to mediatoolbox or mounter ?


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@haslenuts

Can you please take the list of running tasks (using top or scout or anything alike) and paste it here ?

Also, please tell me your board's PCI vendor and product IDs.

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@haslenuts

Quote:

Should i add the lsi53c8xx.device to mediatoolbox or mounter ?


No, if the lsi53c8xx.device is working, it would appear by itself in the list.
Since it doesn't, it's a clear indication that something is wrong, namely the device driver doesn't start up.

Could you post here the result of "pciscan" ? Your board seems not to be recognized by the SCSI driver. Maybe it's just a matter of tweaking some UBoot env-variables.
Sg2 should know better.

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I will do the pciscan when i get home from work tonight.

i already have increased the SCSI spinup time, as some of my drives are a bit slow.



Thankyou for your help.

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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I have mixed setup with sil 0680 and 3114. I was unable to see my 3114 drives in media toolbox until i add tooltype device=sii3114ide.device. This made trick and when i started mtb, list of devices was complete and 3114 drives was accessible. this seems to be bug in mtb (?) in 4.0final. Without i got 0680 only, with tooltype even floppy.device appear to list ...

try add tooltype adevice=lsi53c8xx.device and check what happens.

hope this helps some

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Re: SCSI issues, help please
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@haslenuts

The HD drivers all announce themselves on startup. If you had a serial terminal, you could look for the "lsi53..." greeting message when the system boots (they're all very friendly). You would have to set the kernel command line to include the word "serial".

Also there is the documentation file "Documentation/lsi53c8xx_dev/lsi53c8xx_dev.doc" on the Install CD (in case you missed it).

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Hi sg2,

following is my pciscan

## Vendor Device Vendor name Description
01 0x10cc 0x0660 Mai Logic Incorporated
02 0x10cc 0x0661 Mai Logic Incorporated
03 0x10b7 0x9200 3Com Corporation
04 0x1106 0x0686 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
05 0x1106 0x0571 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
06 0x1106 0x3038 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
07 0x1106 0x3038 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
08 0x1106 0x3057 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
09 0x1106 0x3058 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
10 0x2206 0x3068 VIA Technoligies, Inc.
11 0x1000 0x000F LSI Logic / Symbios Log 53c875
12 0x1002 0x4966 ATI Technoligies Inc Radeon RV250 If

I hope this is of some help.

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Ok, using scout, following is the tasks & processes


Address Type Pri NUM State SigWait FreeStack Name

$6FF71A80 task 12 --- waiting $C0000000 32,592 a1ide.device - chip 0 port 0
$6FF71AE0 task 12 --- waiting $C0000000 32,592 a1ide.device - chip 0 port 1
$6F005E10 process 0 --- waiting $7E00D000 31,520 AmiDock
$6F7A39C0 task 0 --- waiting $C0000000 3,856 application.library messageserver
$6F005C90 process 0 --- waiting $80001000 32,464 ASYNCWB
$6F62FAF0 process 5 --- wait dos $00000100 32,444 AUDIO
$6FDB7190 process 10 --- wait dos $00000100 8,016 CD0
$6FDB7910 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 7,744 CON
$6FDB7C10 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 7,744 CON
$6EFC2520 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 32,320 CON
$6EFC26A0 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 32,320 CON
$6EFC29A0 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 32,320 CON
$6DC83B40 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 32,320 CON
$6F62F970 process 0 --- waiting $80000000 32,496 ConClip
$6FF71840 task 5 --- waiting $F0000000 32,624 console.device
$6F73F030 process 0 --- waiting $00001100 32,592 datatypes.library
$6F005B10 process 0 --- waiting $80009000 32,256 DefIcons
$6FDB7010 process 10 --- waiting $A8000100 7,984 DH0
$6FDB7310 process 10 --- waiting $A8000100 7,984 DH1
$6FDB7490 process 10 --- waiting $A8000100 7,984 DH2
$6FDB7610 process 10 --- waiting $A8000100 7,984 DH3
$6FF96900 process 5 --- wait dos $00000100 8,000 dos_flc_handler
$6FF96A80 process 5 --- wait dos $00000100 8,032 dos_nbmd_process
$6FF96C00 process -5 --- waiting $0000E000 8,032 dos_signal_server
$6FA26920 process 5 --- waiting $80000000 32,320 ENV
$6F561680 process 12 --- waiting $E0001000 32,592 eth3com.device
$6FDF4070 task 0 --- waiting $A0000000 32,592 hub.usbfd
$6FDF40D0 task 0 --- waiting $A0000000 32,592 hub.usbfd
$6EDDD4A0 process 0 --- waiting $33C09000 62,640 IBrowse
$6FFAA360 task -128 --- ready $00000000 4,048 idle.task
$6FF71240 task 20 --- waiting $80000000 32,624 input.device
$6EDDD7A0 process 0 --- wait break C $00001000 63,884 muigfx.library
$6FA26C20 process -5 --- waiting $80000000 32,256 Picasso96
$6FDB7A90 process 10 --- waiting $C0000100 7,408 RAM
$6FA26020 process 0 --- waiting $80000000 32,608 ramlib
$6FDB7790 process 5 --- waiting $80000100 7,744 RAW
$6F005990 process 0 --- waiting $80001000 32,512 RAWBInfo
$6FDB7D90 process 0 --- waiting $00007000 32,496 reaper.task
$6F561800 process 4 --- waiting $C0000000 32,588 RexxMaster
$6DC839C0 process 1 --- running $00000020 29,568 Scout.os4
$6EFDF6D0 task 0 --- waiting $40000000 7,872 screenblanker.library timing dispatcher
$6EFC2220 process 0 --- waiting $E0001000 32,016 ScreenBlankerEngine
$6EFC2820 process 1 --- waiting $40000000 32,304 string.gadget server
$6F561080 process 0 --- waiting $F8003000 32,336 TCP/IP Configuration
$6F561380 process 0 --- waiting $F8009080 32,288 TCP/IP Control
$6F62F370 process 0 --- waiting $80003000 32,592 TCP/IP Log
$6F561200 process 0 2 waiting $D0000080 31,296 TCP/IP Superserver
$6F62F1F0 process 3 --- waiting $80000000 32,496 TEXTCLIP
$6FF71EA0 task 15 --- waiting $BC001000 32,560 UHCI Controller Task Unit 0
$6FF71F60 task 15 --- waiting $BC001000 32,560 UHCI Controller Task Unit 1
$6FF71E40 task 18 --- waiting $F8007000 16,208 USB stack
$6F63CDE0 process 0 --- waiting $80001000 32,592 USB stack Process
$6F66E1D0 process 1 3 waiting $80000000 32,368 Workbench
$6FA26320 process 1 --- waiting $80000000 32,576 Workbench Clipboard Server
$6F005690 process 1 --- waiting $00003000 32,640 Workbench DosList Notify
$6FA26AA0 process 0 --- waiting $0000F000 30,096 ? IPrefs ?


i also looked at devices and resident from scout.
The lsi53c8xx can only be found in resident.

I hope this helps

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Quote:

tonyw wrote:

The HD drivers all announce themselves on startup. If you had a serial terminal, you could look for the "lsi53..." greeting message when the system boots (they're all very friendly). You would have to set the kernel command line to include the word "serial".

Or simply use "C:DumpDebugBuffer >RAM:bootlog" instead after booting from an IDE HD or CD drive and check it, a serial terminal is only required if you can't boot at all.

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Hi,

From your captures, the device is loaded (found in residents) but not running (no device task).

This can only mean that it found nothing during the SCSI scan.

Please paste here the bootlog, capturing it the way joerg suggests.

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please find following my bootlog

a1ide.device 52.1 (09.12.2006)
it8212ide.device 52.1 (09.12.2006)
lsi53c8xx.device 52.1 (09.12.2006)
lsi53c8xx_timeout : '30', adjusted ata timeout to 30
Running on AmigaOne
Found chip #0
Waiting for devices to spin up..
---> Port 0
Scanning SCSI bus...
ID: 0 Selection Timeout
Request_sense sense key 6 ASC 29 ASCQ 2
Target 15 not ready, retry 0
ID: F Selection Timeout
SCSI Error: Target 15 LUN 0 Command 00
CCB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 (len = 6)
Cntrl: SCSI Selection Timeout
Sense: SK 6 (Unit Attention) ASC 29 ASCQ 2
Status: Check condition
ID: 2 Selection Timeout
ID: 3 Selection Timeout
ID: 4 Selection Timeout
ID: 5 Selection Timeout
ID: 6 Selection Timeout
ID: 7 Selection Timeout
ID: 8 Selection Timeout
ID: 9 Selection Timeout
ID: A Selection Timeout
ID: B Selection Timeout
ID: C Selection Timeout
ID: D Selection Timeout
ID: E Selection Timeout
ID: F Selection Timeout
0 device(s) on port
Nothing started, bailing out


it seems like either the settings are wrong on my scsi drives.

also, i get the status: check condition from uboot, but only on a cold start. i do a scsi reset in uboot and it finds all the drives, then i boot OS4 and still get the same bootlog as above.

I hope this helps
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This one is really from left field but years ago using SCSI on Amiga (and other platforms) termination was a real issue. Only a thought.

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I think i can remember some termination issues from way back, but i have never had this much problem with SCSI before.

Uboot sees the two drives fine, it reports their brand, size and everything about them.

Hopefully it can be resloved soon.

These are the drives off my old A4000 in which i had a cyberstorm which wasn't repairable.

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