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Re: Release 4.1 [460LE vs A1222]: The Price of Admission
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@Joerg
I have to agree Maijestro: today's emulation of OS4 on not-so-fast PC is good enough already. I sometime use OS4-for-classic on my not so fast 5 years old notebook, with 3GHZ one core CPU, and it quite fast. I mean for real, not like 25 years ago on Sun with UAE :) Boot time for about 20 seconds, 1920x1080, etc. Of course have issues and limitations, but still, if one need to work on OS4 away from home, then some notebook for 1000$ will give you pretty much "sam460" level (at least with WinUAE, with QEMU i have slower results).

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Re: Release 4.1 [460LE vs A1222]: The Price of Admission
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Of course have issues and limitations, but still, if one need to work on OS4 away from home, then some notebook for 1000$ will give you pretty much "sam460" level (at least with WinUAE, with QEMU i have slower results).
Using a 1k$ PC/Notebook with emulation, no matter if UAE or QEmu, for AmigaOS instead of a 1k$ Sam4x0 only make sense if you have no space left on your desktop for an additional system, or you need remote access.
But using any emulation will always have more issues than using any real hardware, for which the AmigaOS kernels are optimised for.

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Re: Release 4.1 [460LE vs A1222]: The Price of Admission
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And that annoys me no end! Anyone want to buy a lightly used Razer Core-X 😂

[edit] thread moved on. That was in response to lack of external GPU support on m1!

Anyway, can we leave the Qemu topic out of it? I’m well aware of what’s happening in that space at the moment but I’m looking at hardware options here.

I am err’ing with n the side of X5000 but I’d have to sell some kit first. Just from a practical “not enough space” point of view. But I wasn’t aware of the /40 issue. Aren’t they all that’s available now?


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But I wasn’t aware of the /40 issue. Aren’t they all that’s available now?


No sure if 5020 on sale, probably only 5040 ones left. But this of no big problem if you're not in 3D. It just by some luck, we find out one day that some games, which should be the same by speed or even faster on 040, were even slower (with the same GFX card and OS components of course). Like, 100 FPS on 5020, and 70 FPS on 5040. The issue wasn't even pinpointed by anyone in charge, it's just we with some users do some stress tests and find it this. But as i say if you're not in 3D you will never notice :)

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@kas1e

Not especially into 3D. I mean, I am, but like I say, I've got what I'd consider to be better things for that than OS4. Not so say I wouldn't want to play something on it but it's not like we're going to see Elden Ring for OS4 any time soon :D

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Then go for 5020 if any shop sold them still. If not, then, 5040.

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UBOOT sets up the GFX card, if it finds a card, why should it not work? I don't get it.

(don't care what MacOS or the Apple BIOS thinks it supports, if UBOOT finds a card, and initalize it, then it should work.)

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UBOOT sets up the GFX card, if it finds a card, why should it not work? I don't get it.
From the denx U-Boot wiki
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Device trees are currently provided for the M1 Mac mini (2020, J274), M1 MacBook Pro 13” (2020, J293), M1 MacBook Air (2020, J313) and M1 iMac (2021, J456/J457).
The SoC hardware support list doesn't include PCIe, and for all other current Macs it's probably not usable at all (yet).

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Here is my 460LE vs A1222+ comparison:
Welterweight duel.
In Czech language as usual, the most interesting are cores on the end of articles.
Theoretical only, practical will follow.

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Very cool and quite interesting thanks to google translate! When I see the pictures of both boards, I must say I somehow prefer the look of a fully stocked board so I somehow adore the A1222, like the Sam460EX compared to the clean, almost cheap look of the LE ;)

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Here is my 460LE vs A1222+ comparison:

Thanks for a very interesting writeup.
My A1222+ board is on it's way. Still has to make it from New York to the west coast of California but it made it through inbound customs.

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