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Re: My favorite tools under AmigaOs4.1
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I'm curious why you often use iBrowse instead of Odyssey? Any particular reason? I just have Odyssey in my dock and that's all I ever use.


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Re: Updating system
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@AmigaSociety If you're specifically talking about trying to get into the early boot menu, I also found that the only way to do it reliably is to wait for the ball animation to start. At one point I had the animation disabled and I needed to get into it over the serial connection most of the time. Now I've set the animation back to 1 cycle I can enter it reliably 100% of the time using the ESC key.

Realistically this is because I use a wireless keyboard that has a 2.4Ghz dongle and so you have to wait for the USB stack to reset before it picks up the connection. The only reliable way to know when that's happened is when the ball starts spinning.

At the moment u-boot is bugged and the animation is slow, so 1 cycle is plenty enough time to catch it. If that ever gets fixed (I have my doubts anything will at this point) you may need to increase to 2 or 3 cycles.


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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OK, I have no idea why it was so difficult and more or less took 4 evenings to get there, but, Linux Mint is installed and running. Essentially by doing the exact same thing as I did the first time I tried. Either I've got some flaky hardware somewhere or something must be different.

Now I just need to do a lot of internet searching to get everything set up.


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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Nothing over serial output beyond the kernel load, then the device tree load. I've now tried Void linux as well just to be complete :D


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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@sailor

Ah! Those boot args will be helpful, thanks. I have the serial permanently connected, just not those parameters when using linux.

At the moment I don't have a user on the Hyperion forums. All I really wanted to do was get a linux installed so I could see how temperatures compared to OS4 and Morphos. I don't really need linux on my X5000 as I have plenty of other machines I can run linux on, both physical and virtual - I didn't expect this to consume quite so much of my time


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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@Rolar

I'm beginning to think it's my GPU because at this point I've tried everything I can think of! Yesterday I did the following:

- Removed the RX card so there is only the X1600 Pro. It is now in the primary 16x slot
- tried GPT partition table
- tried the 6.8 final kernel rather than the 6.15-rc7
- tried fienix 6.1 USB installer
- tried a different SSD
- tried with the SSD in SATA0 and with it in SATA1 and Morphos SSD in SATA0

All the same result. I think I've exhausted pretty much every option open to me?

Unless it's my sound card? En EMU10K1 SBLive. But then wouldn't I get a picture?

@sailor
If the xorg.conf wasn't configured correctly then again, wouldn't I at least get to the black screen and see it attempt to boot, but just fail to start X11?

Bit of a mystery! I have other cards that should be supported (HD 5450 and another I forget the name of) but they don't work with MorphOS. I would assume that both mint and fienix are OK with the idea of 2 GPUs as Skateman runs the same setup but with X1900 instead of X1600 pro. My only concern is that I do get some "Spurious interrupt" messages over debug serial from the GPU driver of MorphOS. But it's a beta driver so it could mean nothing. OS4 doesn't support the X1600 so I don't have any way to know if it works there or not.


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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I seem to be a bit stuck at the moment.

I've prepared the SD card and added the kernel to it (https://github.com/chzigotzky/kernels/releases/tag/v6.15.0-rc7). The system loads the kernel and then the device tree so it all looks good. I then switch my monitor input and nothing.

my linuxbpot command is:
setenv bootargs root=/dev/sda2 load mmc 0 1000000 uimage-6.15 load mmc 0 2000000 cyrus.dtb bootm 1000000 2000000


I renamed the cyrus-p5040.dtb file and moved it to the root of the cd card just to save typing.

Here is what I did, all from within a linux VM on my Mac (Ubuntu based VM if it matters)

- used gparted to create a new MBR partition map
- created a small 512MB FAT32 partition at the start of the disk to hold kernel later if I wanted to
- created a 30GB ext4 partition next
- created an 8GB swap partition after that
- all other space left unallocated

I then used dd to copy the single partition image to /dev/sda2:
sudo dd if=mintppc32-2025-root.img of=/dev/sda2


Last step in the VM, edit the fstab to use /dev/sda2 for root and /dev/sda3 for swap. I commented out the line for grub since it is my understanding that we are not using it.

I'm not sure what's wrong here? It occurred to me that at no point have I tried a GPT partition table. I'm going to try that.


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Re: X5000 Triple boot info
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@Rolar

Thanks for the info. To get me going, I have installed a simple SATA to eSATA bracket which allows me to move the SSD to the outside of the case and only connect one drive at a time. It's obviously not as slick as the PCIe adapter, but I already had it here so it will do for now.

I'll follow the links for actually having a go at setting it up.


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X5000 Triple boot info
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Are there any guides anywhere for how to go about OS4/MOS/Linux on X5000 please?

I know Skateman is very knowledgable on this topic but I don't like to bug him all the time, especially with how busy he is right now.

So far I have OS4 on SDD in 1st SATA port using RX560 GPU and MOS on SDD in 2nd SATA port using X1600 Pro.

I was wondering if it's possible to add linux to one of those drives to make the triple possible? Would be preferable if I don't need to buy a PCIe SATA card but I suppose I could. Alternatively if I can't add the linux partitions to one of those drives then I could add an adapter that I have that makes one of the SATA's external. It's not ideal though since the hard drive would be hanging out the back of the machine.


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Re: WormHole: great tool to easily transfer files via LAN
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@lazi

Yes, of course. I am very busy with work this week but hopefully I'll get the time one evening.


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Re: WormHole: great tool to easily transfer files via LAN
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Just to report back on this one - I connected my Powerbook G4 laptop to wired ethernet so that eth1 was the device in use and everything started working and became fast and reliable.

So it would appear there is a fault in the code that assumes the device name. Or something like that. Whatever the issue, it should have detected that eth1 (or eth0, I forget) was not actually in use and in fact wl0 was the device it should have used.


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Re: WormHole: great tool to easily transfer files via LAN
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Is wormhole between two MOS machines a supported config? I haven't yet been able to get it to work. One or other of the wormhole instances just crashes. One thing I did note is that my MOS laptop says "eth0" for both host names, but really on the laptop it is using wl0. Of course it's zero config so I don't see anywhere to tell it which interface to use.

It does seem to connect once in a while but it's very unreliable and I haven't managed to transfer anything reliably.


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Re: NVMe support for Sam460 Uboot - how about X5000?!
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@Skateman
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Full support for Radeon RX580 cards on A1222, X5000/20 and X5000/40


Any idea what's been added for those of us on X5000? As far as I was aware the only thing we were missing was warm boot and Hans had said it wasn't possible / wouldn't happen. Given how often the system needs rebooting that would be real nice! Anything else?


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Re: X1000/X5000 HD/RX Graphics cards
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@Maijestro

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The only thing I know is that the disadvantage of RX graphics cards is that our machines can no longer be started via the fast warm start and we have no access to the firmware (uBoot).


Not universally true - uBoot works fine in my X5000 with RX580, the lack of warm boot though, yes - and that is very irritating.


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Re: Amiga IDEs
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@walkero

I haven't yet, no. Will try and have a look this evening. But for the record, it's the left Amiga key, not the right one that macOS uses for everything

Honestly, don't stress about it though if I'm the only one bugging you about it. I very much go through phases of what my spare time is spent on and Amiga isn't really it at the moment, every chance I get I seem to pick up my guitar instead. Also, I haven't looked, but if this is Lua, I can probably do it myself? Been a while since I did any Lua but I have.


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Re: CMake 3.29 Native (OS4)
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@elfpipe I wouldn't worry about the fetch content command support. it's not something I really like or use. I was using it in this instance because I was putting together a cmake file that followed along the lines of those used in Hans cmake book and he likes to have all the sources pulled together within a project, including 3rd party libs.

I don't really like doing this as not only do you end up with duplicate resources if you use the same 3rd party stuff from multiple projects but you also have to re-download it each time you need to clear out your build folder which depending on your workflow can be often.


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Re: Amiga IDEs
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@walkero not very well at the moment so haven't really been looking at anything but just so you know, it's the left one I use. So on a Mac everything is "Left Command + C" (copy), LCMD + V (paste) and so on...


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Re: Amiga IDEs
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@walkero

Yeah, already worked that out after my last reply was posted. The only real difference I could see between LiteXL implementation of editor config and others is that is doesn't seem to "walk up" through to the root of the device looking for configs. Or maybe it's that on Mac you can have one in your home / config folder? I don't remember off hand. But an editorconfig file per project really isn't too much of a hardship.


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Re: CMake 3.29 Native (OS4)
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I just tried the following CMakeLists.txt Sort of. Note that I commented out the toolchain line at the start and the entire section related to GLFW, but otherwise it's the same.

https://github.com/Guddler/rayos4/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt

I get an instant crash. I am assuming that "FetchContent" is not implemented. Would that be correct?

NB: It's really not a big deal as in this case I can cross compile the required libs in docker and then copy them to the Amiga (which I already did). I was purely curious to see if this would work on OS4. Nothing more.


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Re: Sneak Peek Inside Kea Campus' Amiga Corner
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@Hans that's all pretty interesting and clearly shows it's not the geographical issue that I assumed it was! Don't stress over it, I'll investigate my end. It's actually not too bad this morning. About 5 seconds per page? I think it's a lookup thing, it's not like the content loads slowly like days of old via modem, it just has a good think about it before it starts to load.


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