A website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

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pjs

Posted on: 2011/11/7 0:37 #1

Not too shy to talk

Hey guys,

When I do my web rounds, I try to keep up with this
website:

http://www.autoblog.com

It used to work well with IBrowse... then they "improved"
it.... It used to work with the OWB brothers... Apparently,
they "improved" it again...

From what they say, the website uses some sort of "lazy"
image loading. The page loads OK in the RA/MUI OWB, but
the graphics for most of the articles don't load.

I used to be able to hit the gear button in the top title
bar to turn off the lazy image loading, but now that doesn't
even work anymore. Previously, the screen would turn black
and pop-up panel that let me turn off this BS, now it won't
even do that.

Anyone have any tricks that might get this site working
again? ....or is there something that could be done to
MUI-OWB which could fix all this?

I really don't want to use my godforsaken Mac to use this
website.

Thanks,

PJS

Edited by orgin on 2011/11/8 7:21:17

Raziel

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/7 5:50 #2

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Works without problems here.

One thing you could try is delete your cookies and load the site completely fresh...you said there were so many changes to it latelk the site might have lost track of them in the meantime and/or some of them are being still written by the site but wrongly interpreted.

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K-L

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/7 7:15 #3

Just can't stay away

It works here too. I'd suggest the same thing as Raziel.

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pjs

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/8 0:29 #4

Not too shy to talk

Maybe I wasn't clear about the two problems I've been
encountering...

First, the "lazy" image loading. This problem manifests
itself from the second or third article in the blog on
down, where you see a article title (in large blue text)
and then a white space and a few paragraphs of text...

That white space should be a picture in most articles.
In both OWB and MUI-OWB I encounter this problem. The
"lazy" image loading isn't working.

Second, in the black horizontal bar near the top of the
page there is a "button" with a gear icon in it. One should
be able to click that to set the preferences for the
website. In those preferences you can turn off the "lazy"
image loading. This is the website feature that used to
work that no longer does.

Now when I click the gear in either OWB or MUI-OWB it does
nothing or just shows a pop-up "hint" telling you what the
button is. In the past, when you clicked that button, the
page would go dark and white box would appears with
settings to configure.

As you suggested, I tried running MUI-OWB with the
"cookiecollection.db" file moved away. It made no
difference with the problems of this website.

With OWB, I have an old script that copies OWB to RAM and
runs it from there... So cookies never get saved back to
the disk.

Anything else you guys can think of or suggest?

Thanks!

PJS

Raziel

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/8 6:51 #5

Home away from home

Quote:

pjs wrote:
Maybe I wasn't clear about the two problems I've been
encountering...

First, the "lazy" image loading. This problem manifests
itself from the second or third article in the blog on
down, where you see a article title (in large blue text)
and then a white space and a few paragraphs of text...

That white space should be a picture in most articles.
In both OWB and MUI-OWB I encounter this problem. The
"lazy" image loading isn't working.

Ah, ok, i wasn't scrolling down enough...

I am afraid this image loading on scrolling down is NOT a problem of this site but rather something OWB/OWB-MUI can't handle.

Just go to google type in "Amiga" and switch to IMAGES...
scroll down and you'll see what i mean, on page 3 or 4 OWB will stop loading in the thumbnails, instead it will show lots of grey matter

Setting the "lazy images" to off all the pics gets loaded down to the bottom

The "Popular News Stories" on the right hand side down a little bit still doesn't get loaded, though

Quote:

Second, in the black horizontal bar near the top of the
page there is a "button" with a gear icon in it. One should
be able to click that to set the preferences for the
website. In those preferences you can turn off the "lazy"
image loading. This is the website feature that used to
work that no longer does.

Now when I click the gear in either OWB or MUI-OWB it does
nothing or just shows a pop-up "hint" telling you what the
button is. In the past, when you clicked that button, the
page would go dark and white box would appears with
settings to configure.

Boing...no idea about that one.
It works right from the beginning here, no problems, i can change settings as well

But if both OWB and OWB-MUI refuse to open that one you might have a setting in both that blocks that litttle window

Have you tried installing a completely fresh instance of one browser (like OWB-MUI) and only load up the site to see if the pop-up works?

Quote:

As you suggested, I tried running MUI-OWB with the
"cookiecollection.db" file moved away. It made no
difference with the problems of this website.

With OWB, I have an old script that copies OWB to RAM and
runs it from there... So cookies never get saved back to
the disk.

Err, did your script also changes the cookie tooltype of OWB?

Quote:

Anything else you guys can think of or suggest?

Thanks!

PJS

The only thing that springs to mind (and after that i'm really am out of ideas) is that you could either clear your cahe or override it by clicking CTRL+F5 while on the page.

That will load in the site completely new...see if that helps

Fab

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/8 9:27 #6

Just popping in

This image lazy loading thing at google image, youtube and this site is a regression in WebKit that was fixed about a year ago (between r66666 and r71312 from what i can remember).

Raziel

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/8 13:28 #7

Home away from home

@Fab

Does that mean a new version of OWB/Webkit will fix that?
Or is the fix already in and we are in a heap of trouble?

Fab

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/8 13:47 #8

Just popping in

@Raziel

It's fixed since one year in WebKit (and thus OWB MorphOS). But the port of MUI OWB you have is based on OWB MorphOS 1.9, dating from august 2010, which is why you have this bug.

pjs

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB... [SOLVED]

Posted on: 2011/11/9 2:42 #9

Not too shy to talk

@Raziel

I started up MUI-OWB, waited for that page to load and
tried the gear button, no go... I did CTRL-F5 as you
suggested, the page flashed, (presumably) rebuilt itself
and then the gear worked!

Great! Problem solved. Many Thanks!

PJS

pjs

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB..

Posted on: 2011/11/9 3:31 #10

Not too shy to talk

NUTS

Spoke too soon.... :/

I needed to reboot and I fired up MUI-OWB again and it all
went back to not working... I tried the CTRL-F5 thing a
number of times and it wouldn't get the "gear button"
working ever again.

BTW, what is CTRL-F5 supposed to do?

I tried deleting the cookies.db file again and re-running
MUI-OWB, but that did nothing (again).

So I decided to reinstall MUI-OWB from scratch to see
whether that would fix things... Nope. CTRL-F5 again
did not help.

That "gear button" remains generally dead... Except the
once in a blue moon functionality.

Bummer.

PJS

Raziel

Re: Website not working with RA/MUI OWB..

Posted on: 2011/11/9 10:46 #11

Home away from home

@pjs

F5 is generally RELOAD the page
CTRL+F5 means RELOAD the page and don't care about the cached page (say, it completely reloads the whole thing as if you never ever visited before)

Strange that it does such things for you...
Do you have by any chance a Proxy Server running?

Two more things you can try
1) SETTINGS: Tab CONTENTS: Drop the ticks on "Page Cache" and "Content Blocking (AdBlock)" and reload the page with F5 or the RELOAD button
2) SETTINGS/SPOOF-AS: Set it to either FF3.6 or IE 8 (My setting is Default which is some kind of WebKit clone, i think) and try to load the site and use the gear again

EDIT: I see what you mean now...yes, that little gear can be a b*tch sometimes

Be sure to wait until the WHOLE page has been loaded (mind the little flashing lights on the bottom right [MUI-OWB]) and only AFTER there is no traffic anymore click ONCE on the gear. It takes some time (even on my "fast" XE) to blacken the site and open that little window.

If you got a slow cpu it might even time out...who knows?

pjs

Re: A website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/9 14:09 #12

Not too shy to talk

@Raziel

No proxy server.

Re; CPU & page loading - Since I've (very rarely) gotten
the gear to work in the past, I've tried all sorts of
timing with clicks - while loading, after loaded, from
inactive window, multiple clicks, keyboard "clicking:.
I didn't see any pattern of success.

hmmm... But I'm cautiously hopeful. I tried two changes:
I'm spoofing as FF-3.6 and I turned off the "experimental"
cookie system. After loading the page, when I CTRL-F5,
then the gear button has worked.. twice. Once and again
after restarting MUI-OWB.

I'll be curious if this holds up.

Thanks,

PJS

Raziel

Re: A website not working with RA/MUI OWB...

Posted on: 2011/11/9 18:07 #13

Home away from home

Probably just bad website design

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