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Re: Web browser by Hyperion - feasible?
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Ok, this might be a language problem then as I'm not english native, and in french "feasible" is synonym for "doable", as in "*if* we wanted, we can do it".

And as i stated in my post I agree that would be a huge waste of ressources.

Anyway nevermind, I don't even know why I posted this in the first time...

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'feasible' in my understanding means "likely" or "sensibly".


?Feasible? as inn a roadmap to some thing planed in the not so distant future.

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Another question could then be if it is feasible for Hyperion to go into browser porting?

Since a webbrowser is a requirement for any platform these days and often part of the OS package.

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Please find someone else to port the browser since Hyperion are busy. I'd rather that they get round to porting MESA so that we have full OpenGL and implementing other items that are needed for bringing more software to the platform.

Anyone can work on porting a browser; only the OS 4 dev team can improve the actual OS.

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"only the OS 4 dev team can improve the actual OS"

And people who join http://openamiga.org ;)

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Re: Web browser by Hyperion - feasible?
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Well Smithy Was going great guns with Paihia until he lost interest.

Seems a shame to let what he's already coded go to waste though.

Are we nearly there yet ?
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Once, I tried to port SQLite and it failed (almost done but still problems with partial locks on files). I didn't wait for someone else does the port. Even if that happens Still motivated I contributed to compile the last version on OS4 and I created a MUI example to explain how to use the sqlite lib. I didn't wait the last version was available.
And today, both are available !


I learnt a long time ago, that if a piece of software isn't already available or it doesn't quite do what you want, the answer is to pick up a compiler and do it yourself. I started out on BASIC (of various versions from the ZX81 to AMOS), moved on to E in order to write more system-friendly software and stepped up to C from there. Along the way I've dabbled in ARexx, Perl, PHP, Javascript, intent VP-code, Installer, I even did a bit of ASM in the C16 days.

All of this was entirely self-taught, from documentation, examples and asking probably very basic questions. I'm very quick at picking things up and seem to have the right sort of logical mind, and I agree that some people really struggle with this and programming probably isn't for them.

I, however, can't get my head round people who can already program, yet can't manage to string together a simple Installer script. I also notice my continued offers of help in this department - bar "steal one of my scripts, it does exactly what you need" - have been ignored.

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There are many languages to start programming (AmiBlitz, C, C++, Ruby, Python, ...).


Modula-2, E, ARexx, Perl, Installer ...

I'd recommend ARexx as a good language to start with. It's on a par with BASIC at the lowest level (but can be much more powerful). If nothing else, utilising it to extend other apps or automate tasks is a step in the right direction.

Alternatively, if somebody wants to learn Installer and bombard anybody who uploads a program which is more complicated to install than "copy the entire folder to your hard drive", that would make everybody's life a little better.

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Alternatively, if somebody wants to learn Installer and bombard anybody who uploads a program which is more complicated to install than "copy the entire folder to your hard drive", that would make everybody's life a little better.


I'm guilty of not getting round to a proper install script. The problem is that, if you haven't written one before and you want to get the program out there, you really can't be bothered. I'll make sure that I have an install script for the next item that needs it.

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Perhaps a graphical tool that lets you do simple install scripts might be of use.

Just define what files/directories you have in your project and where they should go. (Install dir, libs:, fonts: etc) And then the tool creates the script for you.

A later incarnation of the tool might even add library version checking to the install script and such.

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'feasible' in my understanding means "likely" or "sensibly". I don't think it is feasible for Hyperion to go into browser writing. It *would* be a dreadful waste of resources.

That's the meaning I had in mind when I wrote this post. That's why I wrote 'feasible' instead of 'possible'.

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in french "feasible" is synonym for "doable", as in "*if* we wanted, we can do it".


Not necessarily. It can be technically feasible and I agree that everything is possible. But it can't be feasible for Hyperion and their limited time. You know they have an OS they must take care of!

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Yes that was the point of my post : technically I have no doubt that Hyperion would be able to do it, but with the currently limited time and ressource I rather prefer seeing them going on updating the OS...

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Well Smithy Was going great guns with Paihia until he lost interest.


Well isn't that the major problem? Sticking to a project even though it becomes a drag? I think it was Mike Abrash that said "The first 90% of a project are fun, the second 90% aren't".

Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.
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Well isn't that the major problem? Sticking to a project even though it becomes a drag? I think it was Mike Abrash that said "The first 90% of a project are fun, the second 90% aren't".[/quote]

Do not forget that what comes after the first release,
maintenance, is the third and most important 90%.
Here you can show to your customers that you're
worth their investment.

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