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Chris
Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 7:23    #21
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AmigaOS 3 developers do not use [clib2] at all.


Whilst I think you're broadly correct that it doesn't get much use, it is the best clib for OS3.

I use it for the OS3 port of NetSurf. The alternatives would never have worked.
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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 7:44    #22
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..Waiting for new SDK release, tnx Walkero!
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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 11:14    #23
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..Waiting for new SDK release, tnx Walkero!

The SDK addon is out now. See this thread

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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 16:06    #24
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I use it for the OS3 port of NetSurf. The alternatives would never have worked.
Using ixemul should still work, even if the last working m68k versions (47.x/48.x) are more than 25 years old by now.
Just don't try to use the newer versions from Bernd Rösch, they are broken in several ways.
I used ixemul for my AmigaOS 3.9/m68k port of OWB.
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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
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Why does it need to be reimplemented? Couldn't you just release it under a similar licence as the rest of newlib then others could update it without having to start from scratch.
My AmigaOS 4.x port of newlib was contract work for Hyperion, and the only one I was payed for completely.
Hyperion has an exclusive licence for my AmigaOS 4.x parts of newlib.
Hyperion could release it as open source, unfortunately I can't.

The benefits of using a portable multi-platform C library like newlib, in which at least 99% of the code is system independent and worked on by developers of other systems as well, compared to AmigaOS-only C libraries like clib2 or clib4 with only a single developer working on it should be obvious.
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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 17:28    #26
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The question is.. you have great skills and deep knowledge of AmigaOS internals, so I wonder why you don't join Andrea and others developers to build an open source alternative to all this mess?
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Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 17:45    #27
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The question is.. you have great skills and deep knowledge of AmigaOS internals, so I wonder why you don't join Andrea and others developers to build an open source alternative to all this mess?
Re-implementing an AmigaOS 4.x port of newlib: Not possible for me because of my contract and NDA with Hyperion.

clib2/clib4: Doesn't make any sense for me, clib2 was completely replaced by newlib (or at least should have been, according to my newlib contract).
Fixing the most serious bugs in clib2 and adding missing features, instead of porting newlib, would have been an option about 20 years ago, but the developer of clib2 rejected any improvements I suggested.
In the end I never used clib2 for any of my AmigaOS 4.x software, but ported and used libnix instead for all of my early AmigaOS 4.x software, before I did the newlib port.
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Chris
Re: How to use clib4 (natively)?
Posted on: Today 22:57    #28
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I use it for the OS3 port of NetSurf. The alternatives would never have worked.
Using ixemul should still work, even if the last working m68k versions (47.x/48.x) are more than 25 years old by now.
Just don't try to use the newer versions from Bernd Rösch, they are broken in several ways.
I used ixemul for my AmigaOS 3.9/m68k port of OWB.


Yes, it quite possibly would have done, but that's a horrid horrid piece of software I'd rather not touch with a barge pole.

libnix is more sane but IIRC is missing quite a bit of stuff.

clib2 is preferable to both, especially as it's not trying to be UNIX.
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