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X1000 occassional hanging (SOLVED)
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Hello all, this is my first post and I cannot see a way to attach files so I will just quote things.

I have an X1000 with an RV730 and a single mechanical SATA drive (not SSD).

The first partition is a small FFS2 partition containing the "amigaboot.of". The second partition is approx.1 GB used for the Workbench and a second partition of larger size just as a general storage partition.

I am using Amiga OS 4 FE update 2. When I run "Updater" I can see that everything is "Installed" apart from:

Kickstart/ diskcache.library.kmod which I have as 3.30 vs Remote of 3.31.

The graphics driver is
8.Workbench:Kickstartversion file RadeonHD.chip 
RadeonHD
.chip 3.7 
8.Workbench
:Kickstartversion file RadeonHD.chip.debug 
RadeonHD
.chip 0.32 
8.Workbench
:Kickstartversion file RadeonRX.chip 
RadeonRX
.chip 2.8 
8.Workbench
:Kickstartversion RadeonRX.chip.debug 
RadeonRX
.chip 2.8


What happens is that if I leave my X1000 for a few days and come to turn it on (cold boot) then I seem to get a hang in what I would guess is "Phase 3" of the boot process - so this is where you see the black background and the Amiga OS 4 FE screen where you would hear the default Amiga 1000 startup noise immediately before booting into the desktop.

I have left it for > 20 minutes and still nothing happens.

So, I then press the reset switch and it boots. I can then also power it off, leave it for a while on the same day and then cold boot it again and it will work.

I have checked the serial debugger and there is no textual difference. Well, apart from one thing which I doubt is a serious issue. Here is the beginning of a successful cold boot:
Quote:

[HELO][DRAM]SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 0.
SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 1.
[RELO][L1CF][GOLO][GOT ][ZBSS][INIT][MAIN][KMEM][EXCP][CONS][CIOK][AREN][PCIH][P
CIB][PCIS][DEVI]


Here is the beginning of the unsuccessful cold boot:
Quote:
ÿ[HELO][DRAM]SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 0.
SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 1.
[RELO][L1CF][GOLO][GOT ][ZBSS][INIT][MAIN][KMEM][EXCP][CONS][CIOK][AREN][PCIH][P
CIB][PCIS][DEVI]

You can see the beginning "ÿ" character.

So, I assume that is nothing. So, where does it hang?

Quote:

[mediaboot] Diskboot is present. Skip mounting static devices.


It will hang at that line. Normally, on a successful boot the serial debug would go on to:

Quote:
No CMI8738 found!
CS4281 DRIVERINIT
No card present.
No cards found!
No SOLO_ONE found!
No SB128 found!
No FM801 found!
No Envy24 found!


I am not 100% confident in this mechanical drive because it came with the X1000 that I bought not long ago. It occassionally makes a loudish seeking noise too that doesn't remind me of the times I used to use mechanical drives long ago.

I would guess that it is possibly the hard drive or a SATA cable?

I also desoldered and completely replaced the battery on this motherboard since it came with a snapped contact. Of course, before soldering on the new one I was getting all sorts of issues as is well known with our X1000s with a bad battery.

What I will do now is just dump the log of a full successful run so that there may be interesting information there.

Quote:
[HELO][DRAM]SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 0.
SDRAM: ECC off, Non-ECC DIMM used on channel 1.
[RELO][L1CF][GOLO][GOT ][ZBSS][INIT][MAIN][KMEM][EXCP][CONS][CIOK][AREN][PCIH][P
CIB][PCIS][DEVI]

CFE version PAS-2.0.30 for NEMO (64bit,MP,BE,PPC)
Build Date: Fri Jun 8 16:04:49 CEST 2012 (hfrieden@jumpgate)
Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005 Broadcom Corporation.
Portions Copyright (C) 2005-2008 PA Semi, Inc.
Portions Copyright (C) 2010 Hyperion Entertainment CVBA

Initializing Arena.
Initializing PCI. []
PCI bus 0 slot 16/2: PCIe: port 2 could not be activated
PCI bus 0 slot 17/1: PCIe: port 5 could not be activated
PCI bus 0 slot 17/2: PCIe: port 6 could not be activated
PCI bus 0 slot 17/3: PCIe: port 7 could not be activated
SB600 revision A21 in Intel P4 mode
PCI bus 1 slot 0/0: ATI Technologies product 0x9498 (VGA display)
PCI bus 1 slot 0/1: ATI Technologies product 0xaa38 (multimedia subclass 0x03)
PCI bus 5 slot 18/0: ATI Technologies product 0x4380 (IDE mass storage, interfac
e 0x8f)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/0: ATI Technologies product 0x4387 (USB serial bus, interface
0x10)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/1: ATI Technologies product 0x4388 (USB serial bus, interface
0x10)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/2: ATI Technologies product 0x4389 (USB serial bus, interface
0x10)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/3: ATI Technologies product 0x438a (USB serial bus, interface
0x10)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/4: ATI Technologies product 0x438b (USB serial bus, interface
0x10)
PCI bus 5 slot 19/5: ATI Technologies product 0x4386 (USB serial bus, interface
0x20)
PCI bus 5 slot 20/0: ATI Technologies product 0x4385 (SMBus serial bus, rev 0x14
)
PCI bus 5 slot 20/1: ATI Technologies product 0x438c (IDE mass storage, interfac
e 0x83)
PCI bus 5 slot 20/2: ATI Technologies product 0x4383 (multimedia subclass 0x03)
PCI bus 5 slot 20/3: ATI Technologies product 0x438d (ISA bridge)
PCI bus 5 slot 20/4: ATI Technologies product 0x4384 (PCI bridge)
PCI bus 6 slot 6/0: Realtek Semiconductor 8139 10/100 Ethernet (ethernet network
, rev 0x10)
Initializing Devices.
GPIOLV10 Jumper: Not fitted (default VGA console)
GPIOLV11 Jumper: Not fitted (default ?)
PHY: mb, addr 0x00, vendor 03f1 device 15 (1)
GFX: PCIe Slot
GFX: Disable SB600 legacy decode
VGA (1/0/0): ISA memory space mapped to f8000000000
Initializing VGA.
Found 800x600x32 mode: 0x0103 (259)
Current VBE mode is now: 0x0103 (259)
Mode Attribs: 00BB [Graphics] [LinearFrameBuffer]
Resolution: 800 x 600
BitsPerPixel: 8
BytesPerScan: 0x0340
PhysBasePtr: 0x90000000
Enabling ATI frame buffer byte-swap
GFX: PCIe Slot
GFX: Enable SB600 legacy decode
VGA initialization successful.
SATA unit 0: Disk, "ST2000DM001-9YN164", Capacity:1863GB (lba48)
ATAPI unit 1: Optical Drive, "TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB"
PCIIDE: 2 controllers found
Initializing USB.
PCI bus 5 slot 19/5: EHCI USB controller found at A0209800
USB bus 0 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
PCI bus 5 slot 19/0: OHCI USB controller found at A0208000
USB bus 1 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
PCI bus 5 slot 19/1: OHCI USB controller found at A0207000
USB bus 2 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
PCI bus 5 slot 19/2: OHCI USB controller found at A0206000
USB bus 3 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
PCI bus 5 slot 19/3: OHCI USB controller found at A0204000
USB bus 4 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
PCI bus 5 slot 19/4: OHCI USB controller found at A0205000
USB bus 5 device 1: vendor 0000 product 0000 class 09: USB Hub
CPU type 0x900102: 500MHz
Total memory: 0x100000000 bytes (4096MB)

Total memory used by CFE: 0x7FD1DF60 - 0x80000000 (3023008)
Initialized Data: 0x7FDD8420 - 0x7FDF8B00 (132832)
BSS Area: 0x7FDF8B00 - 0x7FDFF000 (25856)
Local Heap: 0x7FDFF000 - 0x7FFFF000 (2097152)
Stack Area: 0x7FFFF000 - 0x80000000 (4096)
Text (code) segment: 0x7FD1DF60 - 0x7FDCBE60 (712448)
Relocation Factor: I:7FE1DF60 - D:7FE1DF60
[ENVI]
[OFW ][UI ]port 0:1/1 released (low speed)
USB: New device connected to bus 1 hub 1 port 1 (low speed)
USB bus 1 device 2: vendor 04F2 product 0116 class 03: Human-Interface Device
USBHID: Keyboard Configured.
Requested state A4 (1800MHz)
Loader:elf Filesys:amigafs Dev:ide0.0 File:amigaboot.of Options:(null)
Loading: 0x0000000000200000/61536 Entry at 0x0000000000200000
Starting program at 0x0000000000200000
[RUN!]
AmigaOS 4.x OpenFirmware Bootloader V53.21


Please choose a configuration to boot (Default choice is green):
1: AmigaOS_4.1_Final_Edition (Volume DH0)

[RETURN] Boot default [SPACE] Stop Countdown
Move default [UP] or [DOWN] with arrows
[1] Boot appropriate config
(0 sec. until autoboot)>

(Booting default)
Booting configuration AmigaOS_4.1_Final_Edition
graphics.library AltiVec/VMX enabled
graphics.library PA6T optimizations enabled
RadeonHD.card (0): RadeonHD.chip 3.7 (19.11.2019)
RadeonHD (2): Graphics card name is: Radeon RV730
RadeonHD (2): Identified the chipset as: RV730
RadeonHD (2): If - and only if - your card does not work or does not work
optimally
please submit a bug report at:
http://www.amiga.org/developer/bugreports
Remember to include the driver version, and the following card details:
0x9498:0x1002:0x1002: <name of board>
and *please* describe the problems you are seeing in detail.
RadeonHD.chip (0): Object: ID: 3102 name: DUAL_LINK_DVI_I type: 3 id: 2
RadeonHD.chip (0): Object: ID: 3113 name: DISPLAYPORT type: 3 id: 13
RadeonHD.chip (0): Object: ID: 3213 name: DISPLAYPORT type: 3 id: 13
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): --------------------------------------
RadeonHD.chip (0): CONNECTOR TABLE:
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): Connector[0] DVI-I 1:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_CONNECTOR_DVI
RadeonHD.chip (0): DDC bus: RHD I2C line 3
RadeonHD.chip (0): HPD: RHD_HPD_0 (monitor connected)
RadeonHD.chip (0): Outputs:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Output AtomOutputUniphyA:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_OUTPUT_UNIPHYA
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Type: atomDFP1
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Record: Type: atomDFP1, Connector Type: R
HD_CONNECTOR_DVI, ConnectorID: 0x2, EncoderID: 0x1E
RadeonHD.chip (0): Output AtomOutputDACA:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_OUTPUT_DACA
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Type: atomCRT1
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Record: Type: atomCRT1, Connector Type: R
HD_CONNECTOR_DVI, ConnectorID: 0x2, EncoderID: 0x15
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): Connector[1] DisplayPort 1:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_CONNECTOR_DP
RadeonHD.chip (0): DDC bus: RHD I2C line 1
RadeonHD.chip (0): HPD: RHD_HPD_1 (monitor not connected)
RadeonHD.chip (0): Outputs:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Output AtomOutputUniphyC:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_OUTPUT_UNIPHYC
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Type: atomDFP2
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Record: Type: atomDFP2, Connector Type: R
HD_CONNECTOR_DP, ConnectorID: 0x13, EncoderID: 0x20
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): Connector[2] DisplayPort 2:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_CONNECTOR_DP
RadeonHD.chip (0): DDC bus: RHD I2C line 4
RadeonHD.chip (0): HPD: RHD_HPD_2 (monitor not connected)
RadeonHD.chip (0): Outputs:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Output AtomOutputUniphyD:
RadeonHD.chip (0): Type: RHD_OUTPUT_UNIPHYD
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Type: atomDFP3
RadeonHD.chip (0): Device Record: Type: atomDFP3, Connector Type: R
HD_CONNECTOR_DP, ConnectorID: 0x13, EncoderID: 0x20
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): --------------------------------------
RadeonHD.chip (0):
RadeonHD.chip (0): RadeonHD card successfully opened
gfx PA6T DMA enabled
sb600sata.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
000: 0C5A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000
008: 0000 0000 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
016: 5A31 4532 4A34 5952 0000 0000 0004 4343
024: 3442 2020 2020 5354 3230 3030 444D 3030
032: 312D 3959 4E31 3634 2020 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010
048: 4000 2F00 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010
056: 003F FC10 00FB 0010 FFFF 0FFF 0000 0407
064: 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000 0000 0000
072: 0000 0000 0000 001F 850E 0004 004C 0040
080: 01F0 0029 346B 7D09 4163 3469 BC09 4163
088: 007F 006B 006B 8080 FFFE 0000 D000 0000
096: 0000 0000 0000 0000 88B0 E8E0 0000 0000
104: 0000 0000 6003 0000 5000 C500 4F54 6B43
112: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 401E
120: 401C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
128: 0021 88B0 E8E0 88B0 E8E0 2020 0002 0140
136: 0100 5000 3C06 3C0A 0000 003C 0000 0008
144: 0000 0000 007F 0280 0000 0000 0008 0000
152: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 5800 89E0
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
168: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
176: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
184: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
192: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 3085 0000
208: 0000 4000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
216: 0000 1C20 0000 0000 0000 0000 1020 0000
224: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
232: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
248: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 A7A5
sb600ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
sii3112ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
sii3114ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
sii3512ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
sii0680ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
lsi53c8xx.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
it8212ide.device 53.22 (28.6.2017)
cfide.device 53.5 (27.02.2014)
[mediaboot] Diskboot is present. Skip mounting static devices.
No CMI8738 found!
CS4281 DRIVERINIT
No card present.
No cards found!
No SOLO_ONE found!
No SB128 found!
No FM801 found!
No Envy24 found!


Edited by rjd324 on 2022/3/31 0:22:31
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@rjd324

This is normally the exact spot where the graphics card driver should access it's hardware to display workbench.

In my case, if it fails, I sometimes get dozens of "machine exceptions" and sometimes it just silently drops.

I know that behaviour with a RadeonHD 7950, but mostly with warm reboots.
Maybe your RV "only" drops silently, I don't know.

But there is anyway nothing that can be done, *if* it should come from the driver.
See also this bug report:
http://www.amiga.org/developer/bugreports/view.php?id=705

I don't think there is anything wrong with your HDD, but you could recheck the seating of your gfx card.
Might be a dusty connector or something

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I would suggest to check/change the 2032 battery. Sounds like it might be on the way out...

Simon

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@rjd324

welcome aboard and Merry Christmas/ Happy Holidays !

Have you confirmed with a volt meter that the new battery connection and battery are ok as I had similar issues back in 2018 which were resolved by replacing the CR2032 with a BR2032 coin cel battery (supposedly the BR keeps its 3V longer than the BR)

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Thanks for the welcome all.

So, as I said, I completely resoldered a new coin cell holder. I checked voltage at the time of the existing battery and it was okay IIRC.

But, despite being a new coin cell holder, I did not go the full distance and just pop in a brand new battery.

Let me get a brand new battery anyway and see what happens since as you and I have already alluded to: X1000s do NOT like bad batteries!

So far we have the possibility of the radeon driver as also cited in the bug report which is not a 1-1 mapping of my issue but does have some similarities or an on-the-way-out battery.

It's a shame such an issue is not deterministically reproducible. Well, without waiting for what I guess is 24 hours and even then it is not 100% definite.

Thanks so far and I will report back.

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@rjd324

I have the same thing on my X1000 with a Radeon HD 6670.

In my experience, if it is stuck on the black splash screen for more than 30 seconds, it won't get any further, and you might as well reset it with the button on the case. No need to wait for hours.

Sometimes it gets stuck up to three or four times before a boot finally succeeds.

I've tried inserting debug prints to serial in my Startup-Sequence, and they seem to indicate that it gets stuck in (or around) the IPrefs command.

But so far no-one in the (OS4) beta or developer team seem to have succeeded in getting any further clues to why it happens, even when running with higher debug levels.

It seems to be specific for the X1000 (not happening on my X5000/40, Sam460ex or Sam440ep).

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As support tech I learned that one problem can have multiple causes.
I do not think your problem necessarily has anything to do with his problem.

Ranging from hardware problems to software problems like bad PSU, connection issue, bad backup battery, overheating, and even bad soldering point, interrupt issue some hardware you plugged inn, a broken hard drive.

Typical lockups in software comes from stales states, like double unlocking, async issues, waiting for things that never happens, incompatible drivers. Memory corruption can behave different from one system to the next, depending on free used / memory layout.

IPrefs is not something anyone should play with, its responsible loading in prefs files, prefs files not backwards compatible. AEON is trying to replace the prefs files, can result incompatible prefs files and make Iprefs crash. IFF / preference files is really bad as section prefs are just structs, if the struct expands, is nothing in the IFF format that says that section needs a size, and what it contains is not in the IFF format, that is hard compiled into the loader. You can’t move data around in the struct and think it will work. if take 680x0 prefs program is compiled for powerpc it goes from being 16bit aligned struct to 32bit aligned struct, unless you specify it’s not. So, everything becomes misaligned and size no longer matches.

AK Datatypes can also make different parts of the OS freeze up, as tries to load in different images during startup.

What’s different between X1000 and X5000 is drivers, as it does contained the same hardware, changes in software can cause bug that where never found before, start showing up.

steering at black screen won’t help, you need capture rs232 debug output, if that does not help you need a special version of IPrefs with more debugging maybe, locate where most often it stops.

also, because you are beta testing more than one thing at once can make it really hard to track down, not know what changed, you might even have multiple causes of locks. Good luck!

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and hobby developer I only wont bug to related some thing I did wrong.


Edited by LiveForIt on 2021/12/26 11:26:49
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@rjd324

If you suspect the wrong drivers are loaded.

On AmigaONE-X1000 the kickstart modules are not loaded from
“SYS:Kickstart”

they are loaded from hidden BDH0:kickstart
you can mount it using the mounter tool:

“Sys:System/Mounter”

It’s the “RadeonHD.chip» should be in use,
the RadeonRX.chip is not relevant to you as you don’t have that graphic card.

the drivers you don’t need can be commented out in the kickstart layout. Make sure you have a bootable cd (make sure you can boot without a HD...),
just in case you mess it up..
take a backup before you start editing.

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@LiveForIt

Hello,

really? The only thing I have in my BDH0 is my "amigaboot.of" file.

version RadeonHD.chip


proves which version of the "driver" I am using, right? Notice that I am not using
version file RadeonHD.chip

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@LiveForIt

I am an X1000 beta-tester since the very beginning and I must say that I do not know why you are saying that kickstart is not loaded from SYS:Kickstart. I have more than 10 boot able partitions (ranging from the first contact edition to 4.1 final update 2) and I can assure you that each of them loads kickstart from their respective SYS:

(ps: as a beta-tester I do not have that BDH0 partition you are speaking about)

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Out of curiosity can you please copy a dump of the ShowConfig output?

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Sure,

Quote:

PROCESSOR: P.A. Semi PWRficient PA6T-1682M
EMULATED: CPU 68020/68881fpu
CUSTOM CHIPS: NONE
VERSION: Kickstart version 54.30, Exec version 54.30, Disk version 53.18
LEGACY RAM: NONE
ZORRO BOARDS: NONE
PCI BOARDS:
Bus Device Funct. Manuf. Product Status
0x00 0x1D 0x00 0x1959 0xA004 working
0x00 0x1D 0x01 0x1959 0xA004 working
0x00 0x1A 0x00 0x1959 0xA007 working
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x1959 0xA001 working
0x00 0x01 0x00 0x1959 0xA009 working
0x00 0x14 0x03 0x1959 0xA005 working
0x00 0x1C 0x00 0x1959 0xA003 working
0x00 0x1C 0x01 0x1959 0xA003 working
0x00 0x1C 0x02 0x1959 0xA003 working
0x00 0x11 0x03 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x11 0x02 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x11 0x01 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x11 0x00 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x10 0x02 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x10 0x00 0x1959 0xA002 working
0x00 0x03 0x00 0x1959 0xA00C working
0x00 0x04 0x00 0x1959 0xA00A working
0x00 0x05 0x00 0x1959 0xA00A working
0x00 0x08 0x00 0x1959 0xA000 working
0x00 0x09 0x00 0x1959 0xA000 working
0x00 0x15 0x00 0x1959 0xA006 working
0x00 0x1B 0x00 0x1959 0xA00B working
0x00 0x1E 0x00 0x1959 0xA008 working
0x0A 0x12 0x00 0x1002 0x4380 working
0x0A 0x13 0x00 0x1002 0x4387 working
0x0A 0x13 0x01 0x1002 0x4388 working
0x0A 0x13 0x02 0x1002 0x4389 working
0x0A 0x13 0x03 0x1002 0x438A working
0x0A 0x13 0x04 0x1002 0x438B working
0x0A 0x13 0x05 0x1002 0x4386 working
0x0A 0x14 0x00 0x1002 0x4385 working
0x0A 0x14 0x01 0x1002 0x438C working
0x0A 0x14 0x02 0x1002 0x4383 working
0x0A 0x14 0x03 0x1002 0x438D working
0x0A 0x14 0x04 0x1002 0x4384 working
0x0C 0x06 0x00 0x10EC 0x8139 working
0x02 0x00 0x00 0x1002 0x9498 working
0x02 0x00 0x01 0x1002 0xAA38 working

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I’m think I’m remembering wrong. There is no kickstart folder in BDH0:
but key here is CFE only support FFS so, the amigaboot.of has be on the partition with FFS, but workbench can be on SFS\02 once the amigaboot.of is loaded.

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@rjd324

I remembered something else...

1) Unfortunately once booting reaches the point where you are nothing (except programs that were ecplicitely to do so) is sent to serial anymore (as in, the boot process is done, workbench takes over)
2) From that point on the WB boot takes over, which means, *if* something stalls, it's probably software being loaded during WB boot, so everything in startup-sequence, user-startup and later WBStartup.

Could you share these three with us?

Everything in WBStartup you could temporarily turn off for testing.

I had recurring stalls because some of scripts (accessing the interwebs locked up because the network driver wasn't ready respectively there was no internet access possible), but you probably don't have anything accessing the web that early(?)

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1. startup-sequence:
$VERStartup-Sequence 53.12 (26.6.2017)

CD C:

SetPatch QUIET WAITFORVALIDATE

FailAt 21

Version 
>NIL:
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

MakeDir RAM
:T RAM:Clipboards

Assign 
>NILTRAM:T
Assign 
>NILCLIPSRAM:Clipboards
Assign 
>NILKEYMAPSDEVS:KeyMaps
Assign 
>NILPRINTERSDEVS:Printers
Assign 
>NILREXXS:ARexx
Assign 
>NILHELPLOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign 
>NILAMISSLDEVS:AmiSSL DEFER
Assign 
>NILGHOSTSCRIPTSYS:Utilities/GhostScript DEFER
Assign 
>NILPYTHONSYS:System/Python

LoadMonDrvs
AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
IPrefs

USBCtrl START
Mount QUIET DEVS
:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

Path RAMCS:Shell S:ARexx PYTHON:Scripts SYS:Utilities SYS:Utilities/Commodities SYS:System SYS:Prefs

ConClip
SYS
:System/RexxMast >NIL:

If 
EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S
:User-Startup
EndIf
If 
EXISTS S:Network-Startup
  Run 
>NIL: <NIL: *>NILExecute S:Network-Startup
EndIf

Makelink RAM:Disk.info ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info SOFT

;; RJD PLEASE, do not use APPDIRit is insane
;;Assign >nilexists APPDIR:
;;if 
NOT WARN
;;  Path ADD APPDIR:
;;endif

LoadWB

Run 
>NIL: *>NILSoundPlayer QUIET

EndCLI 
>NIL:

2. user-startup
;BEGIN MUI
If EXISTS SYS:MUI
  C
:Assign >NIL:     MUI:    SYS:MUI
  C
:Assign >NILADD LIBS:   MUI:Libs
  C
:Assign >NILADD LOCALEMUI:Locale
  C
:Assign >NILADD HELP:   MUI:Docs
EndIf
;
END MUI

assign tbimages
SYS:Prefs/Presets/tbimages
;BEGIN MultiEdit
Assign MultiEdit
"SYS:Utilities/MultiEdit"
;END MultiEdit
;BEGIN MultiViewer
Assign MultiViewer
"SYS:Utilities/MultiViewer"
;END MultiViewer

;; RJD samba
ASSIGN SAMBA
C:
;; 
END RJD samba

;BEGIN AmigaOS 4.1 SDK
assign SDK
Programs:SDK
execute SDK
:S/sdk-startup
;END AmigaOS 4.1 SDK

;; RJD mount g8 straight away (wellthere is an in-built delay of 10SECONDS)
;;; 
Not using at the moment because downgraded to 1.74 (but that STILL has the COPY problem on the X1000 for
some reasonTested it on the vampire with smbmounter 1.5 and smbfs 1.74 and it works finewhat the hell is
going on
!?
;;;
RUN >NILOther:Dev/smb_startit/smb_startit rjd g8 //192.168.1.83/gen8
;; END RJD mount g8 straight away

;; SVN
assign subversion
c:
;; 
END SVN

3. wbstartup (not sure if there is a text file for this, so I will just write these down manually). "Show Progress Window" is also enabled
SYS:Utilities/Commodities/AmiDock
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/AsyncWB
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/DefIcons
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/ScreenBlankerEngine
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/ClickToFront
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/ContextMenus
SYS
:System/NotificationServer
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/ClipViewer
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/Exchanger
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/InfoWB
SYS
:Utilities/Commodities/TimeGuard
Workbench
:Utilities/LimpidClock


LimpidClock is an obvious candidate to not have startup. I have not tried any further testing yet. I will do in the near future though. I may also want to try the serial debugging in the startup/user-startup to see if I get something similar to you regarding IPrefs?

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What does your network-startup look like?

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- Network-Startup:
$VERNetwork-Startup 53.2 (01.06.2011)

AddNetInterface QUIET DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info)

Add below this line applications that need a running network


- More:
9.Workbench:> ls -l devs:NetInterfaces/
total 11
-rwx------ 1 root wheel   182 Nov 20 23:39 RTL8139
-rw------- 1 root wheel 10086 Nov 20 23:39 RTL8139.info
9.Workbench
:> cat devs/NetInterfaces/RTL8139 
# DEVS:NetInterfaces/RTL8139
# File generated by Dialer 53.2 (3.10.2009)
# On Saturday, 20-Nov-21 at 23:39:40
device=rtl8139.device
unit
=0
address
=192.168.1.55
netmask
=255.255.255.0
9.Workbench
:> version file full Workbench:devs/Networks/rtl8139.device 
rtl8139
.device 53.6 (14/11/2016)
9.Workbench:> version rtl8139.device
rtl8139
.device 53.6

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Ok, just thought you might have some programs in network.startup.

It's prett sure a program that hags during boot.
Best way is to get the programs out of the way first and add them one after the other to see which is the bad boy

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Okay, but you say you also have the same issue with your X1000?

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*Had*.
I've since then fixed all of them but the "machine exception" hard locks coming from the gfx board (where no one can do anything about, at least that what Hans told me (he also told me that these "machine exceptions" only happen on a warm reboot, but that is not true, i get them randomly on cold boots, cold reboots and warm reboots.

That's why i know that, if it isn't a "machine exception" it *must* be a program stalling or crashing (because that's what i was able to rule out over the past months)

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