I wonder what it would take to get OS4 to run on that, as an el cheapo development/testing environment.
[Edit:] That is, taking all the boring issues about licensing and "we won't do it" out of the equation and just focus on what would be required on a technical level.
It'll depend on possibility/availability of proper uboot, or OS4 able to boot on machine with bios similar to that used in qemu.. The latter probably won't happen. The former looks doable.
And other stuff as OS4 ability to run without the bridges used in A1 are to be solved too. Means more work on OS4 imho.
Lets' see what OS4 guys say about it.
Jack
"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
And other stuff as OS4 ability to run without the bridges used in A1 are to be solved too. Means more work on OS4 imho.
Lets' see what OS4 guys say about it.
OS4 doesnt require an A1, it still runs on CSPPC and BPPC. However, only the A1 version was pubished yet, and AFAIK nobody has a license to run it outside of his A1.
There exist rumours that KMOS (or was it ITEC?) paid Hyperion for a port of OS4 to an IBM PDA. You could ask KMOS or IBM if they sell you a copy, maybe it doesnt require UBoot. There exist other rumours that IBM closed its PDA department so you may have problems to get the required hardware. Some sort of Deja-Vu? Well, that happens when you rely on small companies to build OS4 hardware. Suggestions for bigger and better companies are welcome
You could ask KMOS or IBM if they sell you a copy, maybe it doesnt require UBoot.
Maybe it doesn't require UBoot, but surely it requires what kind of bios/bootstraper the Arctic had.
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There exist other rumours that IBM closed its PDA department so you may have problems to get the required hardware
Rumors ? It's was announced years ago: the Arctic platform was based around the 4xx family of chips. IBM sold it to AMCC, the guys that build the CPU the Sam440. So unless you convince AMCC to make you a PDA, well, it's a dead end.
IIRC, QEmu can run MacOSX (the PowerPC version), or was that PearPC? Anyway, if that's the case, ACube is supposed to have a Mac Mini port that they're hoping Amiga Inc. will give them a license for; that could work on QEmu/PearPC, assuming that we have drivers for the emulated hardware.
And other stuff as OS4 ability to run without the bridges used in A1 are to be solved too. Means more work on OS4 imho.
Lets' see what OS4 guys say about it.
OS4 doesnt require an A1, it still runs on CSPPC and BPPC. However, only the A1 version was pubished yet, and AFAIK nobody has a license to run it outside of his A1.
Still boils to being tied to some hardware, in this case C/BPPC. To implement it in qemu? I doubt. Emulators are restricted to some architecture standard, usually a common one.
Jack
"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
That's not too bad. Though speed wouldn't be the main point. The main point would be to get the OS out there for development and testing purposes. A bit like the consoles have development setups that run on a normal PC rather than target hardware.
@all I wouldn't suggest that this is done outside Hyperion, it would have to be done by them. I was just interested in what it would take on a technical level to get it done. Ignoring for a moment whether they have a license or not or want to do it or not.
I doubt the truth of that. While I think that it wouldn't be difficult at all to run OS 4 on top of QEmu, I don't believe those that claimed to have done it.
It would take me a week or so to adapt the kernel to work on it, possibly less. But I would work from the source code.
Unless of course the person in question had access to the source code in which case he violated trust and all sorts of agreements and compiled Thomas and my code for a different platform. I hope that this is not the case.
Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.
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