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klapdeur

Posted on: 2012/2/5 11:29 #1

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Hio guys im having a problem here.
i have a m-audio revolution 7.1 card installed in my Amigaone 500.

but now the program mixer doesnt reconize it.

my gues is that i have a card with a vendor number that is not know by mixer.

if i launch mixer its says only no cards found.
ahi is working like it should.

regards
klapdeur

ChrisH

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/5 12:25 #2

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You need to get a list of attached PCI devices using a command that comes with OS4. There is a way to do that, but I forget. Searching might find it.

You might also consider posting this on Hyperion's forum. Someone there might be able to help.

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mechanic

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 10:38 #3

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The easy way is to use Ranger from OS4depot and click on the PCI Bus tab.
It should list 2 audio devices. Then go to http://www.pcidatabase.com and
do a vendor or device search for the numbers. This will give the name of
the chip used on the card, not who made the card.

If Ranger does not see the PCI audio chips perhaps the card has a problem.

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klapdeur

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 11:20 #4

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Quote:

mechanic wrote:
The easy way is to use Ranger from OS4depot and click on the PCI Bus tab.
It should list 2 audio devices. Then go to http://www.pcidatabase.com and
do a vendor or device search for the numbers. This will give the name of
the chip used on the card, not who made the card.

If Ranger does not see the PCI audio chips perhaps the card has a problem.

Well i did a search on that site and it says the chip is a: envy24pt/ht like ranger says.
the only thing thats different is the chip number:

mine is 0x1724 and i guess that mixer is looking for 0x1723 thats the chip number on the site and 0x1724 is what is on my card and shown by ranger.

the rest of the info is right, its a M-Audio revo 7.1 vendor is VIA Tech...

hope this helps

mechanic

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 13:29 #5

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Quote:

klapdeur wrote:

mine is 0x1724 and i guess that mixer is looking for 0x1723
the rest of the info is right, its a M-Audio revo 7.1 vendor is VIA Tech...

I guess further investigation is needed to see if that is supported.
Take a look at the Mixer Icon info. There is an option that reads
NO_VIA, make sure it reads (NO_VIA).

If I find more info I'll post here.

EDIT:
After looking at the mixer code I believe the NO_VIA option is
only for the early A1's with the sound on the 686 bridge chip.

Mixer should (I think) use the same cards as AHI. One point may
be that mixer reads the AHI setup when starting so be sure to
set AHI up first for the card, save it and do a soft reboot
before starting mixer.

Edited by mechanic on 2012/2/6 14:19:17

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Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 16:47 #6

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Quote:

Mixer notes
-----------

- Supports emu10kx, fm801, sb128, cmi8738, cs4281, Aureon 5.1 sky, M-Audio
Revolution 5.1, ess1938/solo-1 chips and A1-XE onboard sound (VIA686B) when
you have the AC'97 codec onboard.

Though i think this is outdated information as the source code holds

Quote:

#define SUBVENDOR_MAUDIO_REVOLUTION71 0x12143036

in ENVY24HT_regs.h

I don't know how to translate that, but it looks like an unsupported chip (number) on klapdeur's card...

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swoodall

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 21:51 #7

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My card is a Revolution 5.1, and it shows up as vendor 0x1412, device 0x1724, and it just works. The same chip does either 7.1 or 5.1 depending on other hardware on the card.

Tell us about your software installation: do you have Envy24HT.audio in DEVS:AHI, and ENVY24HT in DEVS:AudioModes?

klapdeur

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 22:00 #8

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Yes i have those installed like it should.
ahi is working got sound with any app or game.
the only thing is mi er telling me no cards found

Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 23:12 #9

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Hmm, if AHI is working...

Could you please post Mixer version (should be 1.30 if you have update 4 installed)

Mixer tooltypes (should be something along the lines of
(CX_POPKEY=<ALT F10>)
CX_POPUP=NO
DONOTWAIT
IMAGEPATH=Images
(NO_VIA)
POPWINDOW
POPWINDOWLEFTEDGE=640
POPWINDOWTOPEDGE=480
POPWINDOWDELAY=100
(SETLEVELS)
STARTPRI=126

You can uncomment NO_VIA (just to be sure)

and how you start Mixer (WBStartup,S-S, U-S) and if S-S/U-S, with what command?

swoodall

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 23:30 #10

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Yes, as asked above, are you using Mixer 1.30? Maybe you can also show your envarc:Mixer.prefs file if there is one.


SYS12:[6]> type envarc:Mixer.prefs 
MIXER1_28
NRCARDS_
1
BEGINPRP
DRVRNAME
7
Revo5.1
5
0
65535
0
-41505
0
-41505
0
-41505
0
40648
ENDPROP_
ENDMIXER_

klapdeur

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/6 23:56 #11

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wel i dont have the mixer.prefs file and i used the one that came with update 4.

i will check tomorrow.

Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/7 8:56 #12

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You do have a Mixer.prefs file.

It's most surely in ENV: and not in ENVARC: because you never saved it.
It gets created when you start up Mixer.

Funny side-note. Mixer prefs still has version 1_28, need to bug AlexC about it

Anyway, i would also like to see the .prefs file and for a test you can copy and save @swoodall's prefs file to envarc:mixer.prefs, quit Mixer and restart it.

klapdeur

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/7 11:55 #13

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wel i tried to copy the settings from raziel
but still its says no cards
my guess is that the mixer needs a update for this card

ahi works great from the moment i installed the cards sound is working, but still no mixer.

Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/7 16:12 #14

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Could you post the things we requested, please?

klapdeur

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/7 23:23 #15

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Quote:

Raziel wrote:
Could you post the things we requested, please?

oke can you name them again for me ?

Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/8 7:20 #16

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@klapdeur

Quote:

klapdeur wrote:
Quote:

Raziel wrote:
Could you post the things we requested, please?

oke can you name them again for me ?

Nevermind, see below

Edited by Raziel on 2012/2/8 7:47:25

Raziel

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/8 7:46 #17

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Quote:

Well i did a search on that site and it says the chip is a: envy24pt/ht like ranger says.
the only thing thats different is the chip number:

mine is 0x1724 and i guess that mixer is looking for 0x1723 thats the chip number on the site and 0x1724 is what is on my card and shown by ranger.

the rest of the info is right, its a M-Audio revo 7.1 vendor is VIA Tech...

I'm not sure how many people update their pci.ids from the dev website.

Mine is from 18/01/2012 and clearly says
Quote:

1724 VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller
1412 1724 Albatron PX865PE 7.1
1412 3630 M-Audio Revolution 7.1
1412 3631 M-Audio Revolution 5.1

vendor 1412 is VIA Technologies alright, but card id 1724 is not an M-Audio Evolution 7.1 but an Albatron PX865PE 7.1.

They may have the same sound chip but it's also the reason why Mixer doesn't work for you.
Albatron is not supported because Davy never had such a card to test.

edit:
I may have been misleaded by the 1724 - that simply means it's an ENVYHT24 chip... Hmm
Please tell me what exactly (the whole line) does Ranger says on Device and Vendor

Take all of the below with a pinch of salt...

It "should" be as easy as adding
Quote:

#define SUBVENDOR_ALBATRON_PX865PE71 0x12141724

to
in ENVY24HT_regs.h
and rebuild Mixer to make your card get "supported" but that doesn't mean it will work too.

I don't have svn access to OpenAmiga, so sorry, can't do it and building from the freely available 1.27 sources wouldn't help a thing due to having too much bugs.

Maybe some internal changes on the card will break something, maybe the it will work out of the box, not sure
.
You really need to get in touch with either Alex Carmona (AlexC on Amigans), maybe he can build a new version for you to test?

Edited by Raziel on 2012/2/8 8:13:29

swoodall

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/8 15:15 #18

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I don't know if Ranger shows it, but if you have the tool pciscan installed, 'pciscan detail' will show the subvendor/ID numbers, which might be the missing detail. Mine shows as:


Device #11:
  Vendor:           0x1412 (VIA Technologies Inc.)
  Device:           0x1724 (VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller)
  Class code:       0x040100
  RevisionID:       0x01
  Interrupt:        Line 0x09, Pin 0x01
  Subsystem Vendor: 0x1412
  Subsystem ID:     0x3631
  Resource range #0 (IO)
    Base address:     0x00802400
    Physical address: 0x00802400
    Size:             0x00000020
  Resource range #1 (IO)
    Base address:     0x00802480
    Physical address: 0x00802480
    Size:             0x00000080

AlexC

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/9 8:24 #19

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@klapdeur

I'll compile a new mixer with that device ID and send it to you for testing.

If it works I'll release it.

[Edit]
Actually there's nothing I can do for the Envy 24HT at this time, the reason why Davy didn't provide support for in previous versions of mixer was that this chipset doesn't have an internal volume mixer to be controlled via software IIRC.
...
Hmm, actually it might just be the Juli@ card because the revolution does have volume control.

Alex

Edited by AlexC on 2012/2/9 11:25:38
Edited by AlexC on 2012/2/9 11:35:05

samo79

Re: Mixer not working on my setup

Posted on: 2012/2/9 11:51 #20

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@AlexC

Good that you are working on a new version !
Please can you look also at this old issue reported by Fingus ?

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum ... php?topic_id=5195&forum=3

Also there were a couple of suggestions opened on OS4Depot bug report that would be nice to have fixed aswell, expecially the snapshot (save position) functionality

http://bugs.os4depot.net/?function=viewissues&softwareid=14

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