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Re: AmigaOs4.1 how much memory is used.
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on Micro A1-C: used 168 MB
Sam 440ep: used 129 MB
on X1000: used 391 MB
It is directly after boot, with some commodities running.

Micro A1-C was originally distributed with 256 MB - but it is too small for some aps.
Sam440ep has 512 MB, and it is adequate ammount for this slower computer.
Fastest computers with more demanding apps should have 1 GB+.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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@walkero
this is the same like ervus@macrumors.com pushed me with his results of G4 cache speed comparison.

Such big speed increase namely in emulators is caused probably by GX 1024 kB L2 cache. It looks like most of JIT compiller stays in cache. My theory

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Annoying problem on AmigaOS 4.1 FE Update 2
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@joerg

please, what exactly the SFS compatibility problem is?

I am using om my Pegasos 2 SFS on MorphOS and SFS2 on AmigaOS for many years. I am also freely copying files from one partition to another, under both systems with no errors.

Is this incompatibility statement only to be sure, because nobody tested and tracked versions, or are there some exact situations where it not works and crashes?

many thanks

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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@Capehill
you are lucky men. In my Micro not works any tested PCI / AGP graphics card.
And 32 MB VRAM of internal gfx is biggest weakness of Micro, so external card should help.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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@Mikey_CQuote:
Mikey_C wrote:The question one has to ask.

Is the PCI slot in the MicroA1 just purely for decoration?


I have in PCI slot SATA controller SiI3512 - it is faster than builtin IDE with overclocked CPU GX/1200 MHz. With original 800 MHz I have no comparison, but probably speed increase is not significant.
During the testing with no-ECC/no-REG memory I had the impression, that my Micro is more stable with SATA controller. I have no real measurable proof of this and with REG memory there is no stability problem at all.

Somebody also used 1 GbE NIC card here, but for me not works both tested. Again, it helps mainly with overclocked CPU, internal 100 MbE NIC is 100% utilized on frequencies around 700 MHz ( tested on Sam440ep ).
On my AmigaOne XE PCI NIC works, and has real max speed around 140 Mbps on 800 MHz, and 175 Mbps on 1400 MHz.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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@walkero
no problem, it is often in English - you can't know it from the context. In Czech language yes, but it is a little bit difficult
thanks

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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@walkero
that is great, I like it hepled.
Original memory testing made boys from a1k.org, I only second that - REG memory is a must on Micro.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Guide for New A1222 Users
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@eliyahu

thanks for detailed review. Especially the development of the project and the difficulties that accompanied it are very interesting reading - I recommend it to everyone.

And I am looking forward to final production!

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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It is Cisco router memory, reg+ecc:

look here: https://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?threads/32210/#post-923684
if you are not member, you probably cannot see it.

In this case look here:
https://www.amigaportal.cz/node/160452
- part 4.1 Bigger Mmory
It is in Czech language, so use google translate.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Micro A1-C, overclocking, PCI cards, etc..
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Finally I managed to upgrade my Micro, now I have 1 GB RAM and processor 750GX 1200 MHz. Nice machine now. And I have question:

-Return to Castle Wolfenstein - AmigaOS MiniGLversion from HunoPPC:
can anybody succeeds to run this game on Micro? And if yes, pls, can you post the wolfconfig.cfg?

OOTB Wolfenstein runs on AmigaOne XE and Sam440ep-flex, not works on Micro and Sam440ep.
But it should, it fulfills minimal requirements, which I found for windows: 16 MB VRAM, 128 MB RAM

- do you install Debian Jessie on Micro?
Here is great installer from Hypex.
I am installed it on XE, but Micro not boots after installer ramdisk loaded.
I have UBoot 1.1.1 on XE and 1.2 on Micro - should it be the problem?

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Sam 460 LE news
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@Taddy
my communication with ACube was allways perfect. Not only about Sam460LE, but also about some technical details not concerns sold goods.
I am sorry that yours has delay. I hope it will get better. Today I receive message that my Sam is on the way!

P.S: and I also have AAA Tabor pack This case will be much more complex than Sam...

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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POWER9 has also KVM-PR hypervisor ( i.e. problem state, VM runs natively in user mode and privileged instructions are emulated )
It is faster than quemu emulation. Is slower than KVM-HV, and much more tolerant to exact CPU versions, specific CPU versions can be emulated.

This theoretically give us option to run our machines on good speed Power9 also.

Unfortunatelly, even if I have access to Power9, now I have absolutely no time to play with it.
Not to say, I never tested if Power9 is still capable run real 32-bit big endian powerpc code.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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If I am correct, xeno74 from Hyperion forum experimented with KVM on his X5000.

As geennaam said, CPU must have ability execute VM code directly - these our Powermacs, Pegasos, X5000 or X1000 fulfills.
But for direct use of KVM without Quemu you need also CPU with Hypervisor mode ( like Intel-VT, AMD-V ).
And only X5000 CPU -QorIQ P5020/040 - has this mode, G4, G5 and PA6T not.

I am not sure if are there some workaround today, but in the begining it was this way.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: MorphOS 3.18 is out
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@Hans - I agree

Statement of Intent:

Quote:
Amigans.net was created to provide a friendly Amiga website where users can share their daily amiga experiences and to discuss amiga related topics in a light friendly environment.

We want Amigans.net to be a place that inspires Amiga users to use their Amigas and to find the original fun of being Amigans. Whether that is development, games, music creation, creating graphics or applications.
All creative things that once inspired us to follow this platform.

While 'Amiga' has become quite a broad term since the demise of Commodore this site focus on the following areas:
- Next generation AmigaOS4, compatible software and related hardware
- Emulation Emulation of 68k AmigaOS and 68k Amiga hardware
- Classic 68k AmigaOS, compatible software and hardware

Join Amigans.net and help us make Amiga fun again!


P.S. and I like MorphOS too, but such discussions is better to be placed to morph.zone.


Edited by sailor on 2023/5/15 9:18:10
AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
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Re: Debug output from X5000
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Quote:
Rolar wrote:
Both ways work for me - thank you very much, sailor! "kdebug" is of course more useful if you try to track system freezes.


That is super!

Quote:
I already saw that my keybord (Ducky One) causes a long list of identical USB error messages ("undefined raw key"), but still it works... I wonder if there is any way to get rid of those errors?


I have no X5000, but first try to change the keyboard.
More than week I had usb ohci errors in X1000 CFE environment. I ignored it, CFE and AmigaOS working normally, but linux distros allways freezes. I spent half day searching the reason
But if you have some special multimedia keyboard, it is possible that some rawkeys are undefined.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Debug output from X5000
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debug from U-boot works, and not from OS, i.e. cable is OK.

For AmigaOS you need:

setenv os4_commandline serial munge debuglevel=7
saveenv

or similar according your firmware. Check it twice with printenv command. If you try it and still no output, it is strange.
Try from AmigaOS shell command DumpDebugBuffer to see output.
Or put in your startup-sequence:
run >NIL: kdebug "debuglevel 7"
run >NIL: kdebug "console serial"
reboot and look on serial output.

If you need debug MorphOS:
Here try from system Debug screenbar module, or Applications/logtool

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: NVMe device driver
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@joergQuote:
joerg wrote:@RolarQuote:

So far the only reference results I have seen are from Sailor and she has a X1000. It is said to have much better memory management, so the results cannot be directly compared with X5000.
CPU memory interface may by faster on the X1000, but the PCIe speed is only half of the X5000, which should be the limiting factor for NVMe (and any other PCIe DMA).


It will be great to define unified benchmark platform for this tests. For example: scsispeed + xyz buffers, copy (aos/enhancer) + xyz buffs or whatever
Can anybody ( who understand the internals) define it please?

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Radeon RX cards on X1000
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@geennaam, @Hans

Amiga means girlfriend.
And they do have allways a few or more flaws, but they are beautiful ( at least at somebody's eyes ) and people love them...

Please, continue to favor Amiga. I know it's quite difficult sometimes.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Full version of old DVPlayer
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@AmigaOldskooler

Old version of DVPlayer 0.72 is on AmigaOS 4.1 FE install CD, in Extras directory.

I have this on my AmigaOneXE. But I am not using it, it can play only older video formats.
I am using MPlayer instead.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@ktaddQuote:
ktadd wrote:
It will happen on pretty much any video. A good one to use it the Sintel video.
I've found it happens less if I play it from the hard drive and happens more often if I play it out of RAM: or from a USB connected drive. Last time I tried the Sintel video froze at about 14 minutes. Sometimes it freezes sooner.


Tried MickJT-Mplayer-altivec with Sintel.2010.720p.mkv and Sintel-1280-surround.mp4, both from SSD/SFS2. No freeze. The first one says "your system is too slow", second is OK.
Try mplayer with -v parameter to look for more infos.

AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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