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Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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Can someone *pleeease* commit a change to YAM that removes the time restriction on the nightly builds!!

There hasn't been any (significant?) work done for years.
Who knows when the nightly server stops working and we are all screwed.

Going back to a previous version is no option since this beta somewhere along the lines changed the file format making it incompatible with the last official release. There is NO OPTION for us users but to trust a server noone uses anymore.

I depend on YAM for my emails, and my email archive. Have YAM stop and tell me ridiculous things every other time I reboot the machine just eat on my nerves. It doesn't make any sense anymore now that dev has stopped (or almost stopped?).

Who knows when the owner stops paying for the machine??? Then what??? "£#¢& you for being so stupid to use YAM!" or what?

Please remove the time constraint so we can live in peace.

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Deniil

I'm with you there.

If there only was someone of the devs investing a little time to build a new full version.

I was relying on YAM aswell, but have since switched to using my ISP's online page, but since Odyssey isn't updated anymore either and more and more sites starts failing, i'm forced to wait for doomsday when i'm not able to access my mails at all anymore.

Numerous requests have already been sent to the maintainers, the answer stays the same...no time, and shifted interests...

I guess YAM is already dead...

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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You know Jens is still in the community? He won't let us lost in that worst case scenario.

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Elwood

Yes, i know and that comment about "no time and shifted interests" comes from him...

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Raziel

YAM is a great piece of software,but I am with you that it must not be dependant of nightly builds:I love YAM and its features.

Nughtly builds ar not the best solution for me and I believe that to the comunnity either

Because bugs and the likes

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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It's open src, you could build a copy for yourself.....

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Raziel
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I guess YAM is already dead...

As of last July the full release of YAM is dead for me. My ISP decided to shut down the non-secure POP3 server and requiring the use of IMAP or a secure POP3 server. The official full release of YAM won't connect to the secure POP3 server and doesn't support IMAP. Odyssey no longer works with my ISPs online email pages so I had to switch to the overnight YAM build in order to continue using my X1000 for email. However, due to failing last releases of Odyssey and YAM, I rarely bother to use my NG Amigas any more.

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@broadblues

Quote:
It's open src, you could build a copy for yourself.....


Don't we just love that answer

I started looking into this, but stopped pretty early for some reason I can't remember. Probably beacuse it doesn't use git, or that one needed to be an official YAM developer to be allowed to push commits or whatever silly thing I just couldn't be bothered with when I know there are people there who has the code, dependencies and environment setup and could just change one line in the code, commit, and be done with it in 5 minutes.

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Deniil

That is sad...i know that time constrants can kill any fun of working on/for a project, but in the meantime the YAM devs should have understand how important (and used) YAM is for the Amiga platform...unfortunately no one seems to care anymore.

Another nail in the coffin

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Deniil

Now (30 october) seems to have/use GIT:
-Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/jens-maus/yam

https://github.com/jens-maus/yam.git

Didn't try to compile under aos4 but:
#SDH1:Programar/SGIT/sgit clone https://github.com/jens-maus/yam.git yam
get 18% (10415 kb, 11763/64279) / idx 16% (10351/64279) / chk 0% ( 0/ 0)

under linux and cross compiling no problems here.

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@jabirulo

Not everyone has a cross compiling environment set up.

It should be as easy to compile native/locally, but as it seems, it isn't.

Also, eMail i still an integral part of many users and i for one don't feel the need of relying on a beta build which could possibly destroy my eMail correspondance, hence the need for a "full, official" build.

Just my 2c

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Raziel

Would it be possible to write a launcher that checked the version online and was able to auto update if the local version was close to the timeout?

That should be pretty easy and would not require maintaining a seperate build.

Just a thought.

Cheers,
Bill

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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why not just start yam with a simple dos script to set the clock back to a working date, start yam, wait for it to initalise then restore the date?

something like this should work:

date 15-10-2018
run 
<>nilyam:yam
wait 5
date server pool
.ntp.org port 123 >nil:


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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Severin

Sure, that will circumvent the fact that there is no new YAM version, but it's not that we couldn't get the dailies to work, it's that they aren't tested and a full release is due for ... well, long enough

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Re: Please someone remove YAM's time contraint
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@Raziel
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It should be as easy to compile native/locally, but as it seems, it isn't.

It requires a few minor changes but it does compile native/locally on my X1000. However, it won't compile with the "make" command from OS4 depot; something seems to be wrong with that version of "make". I compiled my own copy of YAM with make v53.1 that was included in the SDK.

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