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Spotless vs. c++ stdlib
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Just to let everyone know: There are issues in the latest c++ stdlib in handling conversions between string objects and 64 bit numeral types. This is a huge problem for Spotless in limiting cases (it will crash). There is no solution at present.

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Re: Spotless vs. c++ stdlib
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@Alfkil
Do you mean in one comes with aos4, or in your one comes with spotless ?

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Re: Spotless vs. c++ stdlib
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@kas1e

Spotless will not work with the version of c++ stdlib that comes with the os. It needs the "special" version (= latest adtools).

Even in this case, it will give inconsequential output, or crash, when there is a conversion between strings and 64 bit numerals.

This includes the case, where it tries to debug itself.

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Re: Spotless vs. c++ stdlib
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@alfkilI

just peeked in the installer script and...
...you probably shouldn't overwrite the users libstd++.so in sobjs:

rather use your own sobjs/ in the programs dir, otherwise some other programs may stop working for the user.

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@kas1e

Try it with the shared object crashes, maybe this will shine some light on the matter?

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Re: Spotless vs. c++ stdlib
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@alfkil

Yeah, it's crashing right when i load in a binary (GUI version)
Crash log for task "Spotless"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.19
Crash occured in module Spotless at address 0x7F49A960
Type of crash
DSI (Data Storage Interruptexception
Alert number
0x80000003

Register dump
:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
   
07F4703B0 4EBAC560 00000000 00000028 021207A8 00000200 00000200 628D1360 
   8
7D615B78 00000028 00000000 4EBAC5D0 2A822882 5063EBC4 00000000 4F787340 
  16
7F46926C 00000000 00000000 00340014 02B30000 02B30000 183A46A0 00000000 
  24
59C214D2 00000000 24822484 00000000 C0000002 02973054 00000000 4EBAC560 


FPR 
(Floating Point RegistersNaN Not a Number):
   
0:              nan    -5.85132e+307    -5.85132e+307    -5.85132e+307 
   4
:      7.7486e-304    -5.85132e+307    -5.85132e+307    -5.85132e+307 
   8
:    -5.85132e+307    -5.85132e+307                1       4.5036e+15 
  12
:       4.5036e+15      2.14748e+09                0                0 
  16
:                0                0                0                0 
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:                0                0                0                0 
  24
:              255      2.14748e+09      1.52588e-05       4.5036e+15 
  28
:            65536       4.5036e+15            65536      2.14748e+09 

FPSCR 
(Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82004000


SPRs 
(Special Purpose Registers):
           
Machine State (msr) : 0x0200B030
                Condition 
(cr) : 0x50060ABC
      Instruction Pointer 
(ip) : 0x7F49A960
       Xtended Exception 
(xer) : 0x4E96B018
                   Count 
(ctr) : 0x6FF494D0
                     Link 
(lr) : 0x7FAE9920
            DSI Status 
(dsisr) : 0x4E96ADD0
            Data Address 
(dar) : 0x021AD048



680x0 emulated registers
:
DATA00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
ADDR
6FFB8700 964AAA00 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 4EBABAD0 
FPU0
:                0                0                0                0 
FPU4
:                0                0                0                0 



Symbol info
:
Instruction pointer 0x7F49A960 belongs to module "Spotless" (PowerPC
Symbol_ZNKSt6vectorIP12SourceObjectSaIS1_EE4sizeEv 0x14 in section 8 offset 0x00033224

Stack trace
:
    
Spotless:_ZNKSt6vectorIP12SourceObjectSaIS1_EE4sizeEv()+0x14 (section 8 0x33224)
    
Spotless:_ZN6Binary11getFunctionEj()+0x44 (section 8 0x23A04)
    
Spotless:_ZN8Debugger11hasFunctionEv()+0x3c (section 8 0x8C74)
    
Spotless:_ZN7Actions6updateEv()+0x70 (section 8 0x97B8)
    
Spotless:_ZN8Spotless9updateAllEv()+0x28 (section 8 0x4D00)
    
Spotless:_ZN8Spotless11handleEventEP5Event()+0x2fc (section 8 0x4688)
    
Spotless:_ZN6Widget12processEventEmt()+0x4ec (section 8 0x1A9A4)
    
Spotless:_ZN6Widget12waitForCloseEv()+0x2d0 (section 8 0x1A024)
    
Spotless:_ZN8Spotless6unfoldEv()+0x54 (section 8 0x39A0)
    
Spotless:main()+0x118 (section 8 0x1C48)
    
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000020a4
    native kernel module newlib
.library.kmod+0x00002d54
    native kernel module newlib
.library.kmod+0x00002ee8
    Spotless
:_start()+0x170 (section 8 0x1AB8)
    
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x000255c8
    native kernel module kernel
+0x000420ac
    native kernel module kernel
+0x000420f4

PPC disassembly
:
 
7f49a958907f0008   stw               r3,8(r31)
 
7f49a95c813f0008   lwz               r9,8(r31)
*
7f49a96081490004   lwz               r10,4(r9)
 
7f49a964813f0008   lwz               r9,8(r31)
 
7f49a96881290000   lwz               r9,0(r9)

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Yes, replacing original libstdc++ are bad idea, i told the same before :) For example, it will broke SDL1 apps which uses shared versions of SDL1 , which use shared version of libstdc++.

@Alfkil

In other words, there should't be installer. Just creating of SOBJS in the root of spotless archive and put your sobj there, and remove installer script. Then all will works, and nothing will be overwriten. Because as it now, some ppls may install it, forget about, but will have other version of libstdc++ which will (and it will) cause issues there and there just because its different.

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Yes. Which is why you need to load an executable, that makes sense. I have not clearly stated that in the readme. Apologies. You need to build your executable with -gstabs for both the compiler and the linker. Then it will work.

When testing software, the best strategy is not always to make it fail. It is also relevant to confirm actual core functionality. Who knows, maybe it hides something of value to the community.

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Status of Spotless 1.0.2 today is, that it can load and debug itself. Most c++ specific data is unavailable, but core functionality is there, crashes have been exterminated, and everything will be possible to add in time.

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I am not the one to ask for applause. But really I think it has come along way since work started beginning with the Corona outbreak. My hope is, that it will be useful. That's all.

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@Raziel and kas1e

I have noted the point about the local sobjs folder. Totally forgot about this feature and was grasping for a quick solution. I hadn't actually imagined, that it would break compatibility with other applications. Apologies. It will be fixed for the coming release.

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But i did load in an executable, compiled and linked with -gstabs

Maybe the executable is too big? (~69 MB)

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Cool. I fixed a few things today. Depending on the strangeness of the executable you are trying to debug, I am guessing you should see some improvement when using version 1.0.2. Unless, of course, if you are already bored and redirecting the issue to the trashcan.

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Pff...yeah right, as if i'll let you off the hook now

Going to wait for the new release and test again (once i'm back home again, that is)

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when using version 1.0.2

Considering that Spotless is not a port, why not use a proper Amiga version string?

Can we PayPal you a donation?

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I'm currently at school and sticking to conventions of order implemented here. I have been out of the Amiga game for so long, that I get dizzy just from booting. :)

If that's a request, I will reopen my PayPal account. Thanks :).

Spotless is now able to debug itself.

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OK, donation sent. Keep it up, jazz maestro

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Tested latest version. New buttons are good :)

But there is list of what i found (sorry for long report, i know you love it :) :

1.

Loading of itself indeed works now (through by some reasons not very fast, and some "loading" progress bar appears), But then, once you hit "start" : it start second instance, all fine. But quit from that second instance cause crash in AmigaProcess_readContext(). Ignore DSI helps.

The same crash can be reproduced by simle :

Load test binary, set break point on line 20 (printf hello world) , then "step out" , and while we have printed "hello world" , we also got a crash. Same crash in AmigaProcess_readContext. Ignore DSI helps as well.



2.

When we choice to load "test", then , while in the source files "test.cpp" entry are active, the window where should be source code are empty. So we need again click on test.cpp. Imho first source file in list should be shown automatically.


3.

Is that script for "assign" need it ? I was under impression that we can no more rely on it, and just use "PROGDIR:" in the code of apps.

4.

In the "variables", when we hit "Globals" button, we have always the same one added at bottom, and the more we press, the more added. Should't it refresh "variables" in whole , instead of adding the same ones at bottom of previous ones ?

5.

I was under impression, that "step into" should go inside of the system calls, right ? For example i set breakpoint on prinfs, then press "start" and once it hits on breakpoint, i then press "Step over". After that, pressting "step into" does not matter how many times i press it, its again on the same loop ( i can see from disassembly it jumps in the same place) and never doing anything else.

Then, after i press many times "step into" and it do nothing, then also pressint "step over" do the same as "step into". And also "step over start to be the same".

So seems (but can be wrong), that step into just die on going into syscall , and after that all other "steps" stop working. Only solution to close debugger.

It seems, that it happens when i hit a crash. Once i ignore it , it quit/run/ spotless again, it seems to work. Hope it not random. At least fixing crashes, should help to debug it futher.


6.

Minor suggestion : is it possible to add another gadget at right/top, where we can choice "snapshoot" , so we can resize the window as we want, choice that "snappshot" thing, and window will be of the same size on start as we want.

7.

Also iconify gadget will surely good as well, as when one debug things, it offten need to be in-the-work, just hided, and iconify helps.

8.

Just tried to load "Odyssey" binary in : it didn't start when i press "Start", because, seems debugger didn't take loaded programm's PROGDIR: into account, so if for example you tried to debug some app which will load something from its own PROGDIR: => fail.


Anyway, all that mean that if you want to improve it and fix things to make it all usable, then i am in to help with real deep testing, but there need to spend still some time for sure. I was even in surprise that you were in hope at begining that everything will works right aways without needs for bug fixes :)

But if it just proof-of-concept for someone who may find that code be usable later, then its good for what is it then, and no time spending need it :)


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Hi Kasie, thanks for testing :). It is always good stuff to get your thorough investigations delivered. At this point, I have been forced to unplug my Amiga and put it in a closet, because I have a due assignment at school next week. Sorry, I didn't actually do it myself, but it had to be done. When I get it back, I will fix all the problems for sure ;).

Just to comment:

1. I cannot reproduce the issue here, but I have made a change, that might fix it.

2. I don't think so. When you load the binary, you will have the program counter in the startup code, so it would be wrong to show the user some place in the code.

3. It is needed for the CLI version shell to appear. But not for running any of the executables.

4. That is a mistake, and I have noticed it. Will be fixed. ;)

5. Step Into only works, when the step includes a subroutine call inside the sources. If there is a branch to a system function, it should just work as Step Over.

6. Ooh, that's an upper level user space request. Let's see, if I have time for those ;).

7. Simile.

8. I need to take care of paths. Those were not in my initial requirements. It has been noted. Thanks :).

To sum up your last comment : In fact this is all a play on the concept of bug free code. Obviously there will be adjustments as soon as the product hits the real world. But actually I am kind of baffled at how well it seems to be doing compared to the amount of testing invested in it previous to release.

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