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Software News : AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted by Rogue on 2009/8/22 17:18:03 (2915 reads) News by the same author
Software News

Brussels, Belgium - August 21, 2009

Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to present a service update of the SDK for AmigaOS 4.x on all supported platforms.

This SDK contains two critical fixes to binutils:
1. AMCC 440ep alignment fixes (SAM platforms)
2. Shared object (.so) fixes

Some components have also been updated to the latest versions including sh and make. New components include Expat, Expunge and Autodoc.

The updated SDK 53.15 can be downloaded here


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nubechecorre
Published: 2009/8/22 17:38  Updated: 2009/8/22 17:38
Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1873
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Thanks for the update ! Does it means that soon there will be a new update also for the Sam Board ?
samo79
Published: 2009/8/22 17:46  Updated: 2009/8/22 17:46
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Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Italy, Perugia
Comments: 3578
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
That's great, no excuse now to optimise our software on Sam
Kicko
Published: 2009/8/22 19:05  Updated: 2009/8/22 19:05
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Joined: 10/25/2007
From: Gothenburg / Sweden
Comments: 1175
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Good news for devs and for us app users
TSK
Published: 2009/8/22 21:05  Updated: 2009/8/22 21:05
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Joined: 02/23/2007
From: Finland, the land of Santa, sauna, sisu and salmiakki
Comments: 1132
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Big great thanks to all involved !
Antique
Published: 2009/8/22 21:06  Updated: 2009/8/22 21:06
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Joined: 11/30/2006
From: Norway
Comments: 2561
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Nice work. Why is it that everytime something nice gets released,i'm not home? Hehe.
nbache
Published: 2009/8/22 23:22  Updated: 2009/8/22 23:22
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Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Comments: 1390
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
What do you mean, not home? You are here, and according to your rating, this is your home away from home

Best regards,

Niels

P.S. Me too, BTW ...
328gts
Published: 2009/8/23 1:57  Updated: 2009/8/23 1:57
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Joined: 07/07/2009
From: Man Cave, Canada
Comments: 2788
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Tuxedo
Published: 2009/8/23 10:41  Updated: 2009/8/23 10:41
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: Perugia, ITALY
Comments: 339
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Gret news!
Hope that now more software will come out with new sdk available :)

GOOD WORK to ALL! :)
BillE
Published: 2009/8/23 12:32  Updated: 2009/8/23 12:32
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
The download site does not seem to work - all I get is

"Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL"


Bill
glames
Published: 2009/8/23 19:30  Updated: 2009/8/23 19:30
Just popping in
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: France, Nantes
Comments: 224
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@BillE,

The same issue happened here a few hours ago.

It's ok now.

Glames
Slayer
Published: 2009/8/23 21:50  Updated: 2009/8/23 21:50
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Joined: 03/11/2008
From: Dunedin, New Zealand
Comments: 868
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Likewise here Antique, It's 7:48am and in the office for another working day... LOL

Great to see these types of updates!

muchly appreciated team! thanks!
BillE
Published: 2009/8/24 11:14  Updated: 2009/8/24 11:14
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
I can access the site now.

It seems not so much an update as someone mentioned earlier but a huge whopping great 85MB thing which with my crappy512k BT line (thanks BT for still charging me full line rental) will take all day to download.

So before I decide to do so or not, what are the differences from the last SDK, I don't use shared objects so can do without that, but what else would I be missing ?
Rigo
Published: 2009/8/24 14:36  Updated: 2009/8/24 14:36
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Joined: 11/19/2006
From: London, England
Comments: 1353
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
The binutils in the latest SDK fix the alignment issues on the 440EP processor. If you want your software to work correctly on the Sam, this is a VERY recommended update.

Simon
xenic
Published: 2009/8/24 16:25  Updated: 2009/8/24 16:25
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Joined: 01/06/2008
From: Pennsylvania, USA
Comments: 1356
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Does that mean that all the software released for OS4/OS4.1 needs to be recompiled & rereleased to work on SAM?
xenic
Published: 2009/8/24 16:29  Updated: 2009/8/24 16:29
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Joined: 01/06/2008
From: Pennsylvania, USA
Comments: 1356
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
The SDK:Examples/CatComp/helloworld.c example is still broken in this SDK release.
BillE
Published: 2009/8/24 21:34  Updated: 2009/8/24 21:34
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
>The binutils in the latest SDK fix the alignment issues on the 440EP processor. If you want your software to work correctly on the Sam, this is a VERY recommended update.


What happened to the reply I sent earlier today?
Oh well here goes again !


Is this any different to just using "-mstrict-align" in my makefile ?

I do this already after having found alignment problems before and contacted Steven Solie about it. I think he saind that "-mstrict-align" would be set by default in the next release. So if that is all it is, I may not have to soend hours downloading a HUGE file unless it is absolutely necessary.

Assuming it may be absolutely necessary could someone just upload an archive of just the binutils so folk with slow connections do not have to download the entire SDK again.
jahc
Published: 2009/8/25 14:47  Updated: 2009/8/25 14:47
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@BillE

do you have an internet cafe or gaming lounge you can go to, download the file at, pay $2-3 and burn it onto a dvdr? thats what I'd do if I was on dialup.. but I'm a big city, so .... may not be an option for rural areas? not sure..
ssolie
Published: 2009/8/25 16:21  Updated: 2009/8/25 16:21
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Joined: 11/26/2006
From: Canada
Comments: 986
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@BillE
Quote:
Is this any different to just using "-mstrict-align" in my makefile ?

The floating point alignment issue is still present in the compiler. This will change when the compiler (not just binutils) is updated in a future SDK.

The alignment issue we are talking about in this update directly affects performance and correctness on the 440ep platforms only.

As you know, the 440ep has much stricter alignment requirements than the other platforms. You must use the new binutils or your software will appear to function correctly most of the time.

Quote:
Assuming it may be absolutely necessary could someone just upload an archive of just the binutils so folk with slow connections do not have to download the entire SDK again.

Absolutely not. Do not start picking apart the SDK because parts of it are dependent on other parts. Please find a way to obtain the entire SDK.
TiredOfLife
Published: 2009/8/26 10:57  Updated: 2009/8/26 10:57
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Joined: 07/23/2007
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Comments: 777
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Many thanks for your continued hard work.

I'm no dev so have no idea what the aliginment issues are and how they affect the Sam.

Can anyone give a brief description in laymans terms?

Cheers
nubechecorre
Published: 2009/8/27 2:01  Updated: 2009/8/27 2:01
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From: Sanremo
Comments: 1873
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@All Developers

I knew that the early version of SDK ( maybe only gcc ) crashed ( didn' t work properly ) if amicygnix was installed and to avoid this, the assign of amycygnix had to be commented.. is still so ?
BillE
Published: 2009/8/28 13:47  Updated: 2009/8/28 13:47
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
> This will change when the compiler (not just binutils) is updated in a future SDK.

Oh great, I suppose that will be *another* 85MB download

> Absolutely not. Do not start picking apart the SDK because parts of it are dependent on other parts. Please find a way to obtain the entire SDK.

But in the earlier sentence you have just stated that ALL that has changed is the binutils section.

So why cannot an UPDATE containing them be available. It makes no sense to have to download 8MB or more of repeated material that people already have.

Is Amiga development now only possible by those who are lucky enough to have fast connections? It seems developers in rural areas are being discriminated against and will no longer be able to develop for OS4

I certainly cannot justify 85MB downloads here every time there is a small update. I may have to give up any further develpoment if getting the proper tools is made so difficult.

The distribution method needs to be improved so that everyone, not just those with fast broadband can develop. No wonder there are so few Amiga developers around
orgin
Published: 2009/8/28 14:32  Updated: 2009/8/28 14:32
Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3248
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@BillE

Perhaps a diff archive could be produced between each release. That way people could theoretically recreate the new archive by just downloading the diff file.

Or perhaps amigakit or somesuch could be convinced to redistribute the sdk on CD for a modest fee..
Swisso
Published: 2009/8/29 8:23  Updated: 2009/8/29 8:26
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/29/2006
From: Earth
Comments: 257
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@BillE
I would be happy to download large files like this onto a cd and post them to you.
@All
Have noticed that Scumm wont work with the new SDK installed btw
is looking for libz.so on startup
BillE
Published: 2009/8/29 17:46  Updated: 2009/8/29 17:46
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
> Perhaps a diff archive could be produced between each release. That way people could theoretically recreate the new archive by just downloading the diff file.

That would certainly be the best way by far, especially when the SDK is so huge to start with. It is just crazy to have to download the entire thing for each update and extremely inefficient.
BillE
Published: 2009/8/29 17:51  Updated: 2009/8/29 17:51
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
> I would be happy to download large files like this onto a cd and post them to you.


Thanks for the offer. It may not be necessary to send the whole thing.

If you have both your new SDK and your old one backed up you could run Compare Dirs (http://os4depot.net/share/utility/filetool/comparedirs.lha) and just email the files that are different.

Goodness knows why the people that create the SDK cannot do this in the first place and just release an update with the new files is beyond comprehension.
Swisso
Published: 2009/8/30 9:02  Updated: 2009/8/30 21:52
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/29/2006
From: Earth
Comments: 257
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
I would be happier to send the whole thing to you since it doesnt matter if 2 megs or 200megs sits on the cd. It is in the post.
@ All
ok... Cubic IDE has to be uninstalled or commented out in the user-startup and a reboot BEFORE using the update.
BillE
Published: 2009/9/5 22:08  Updated: 2009/9/5 22:09
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
@Swisso

Just to let you know that the SDK arrived yesterday, but as I worked a long day could not reply until now.

I did take a USB pen to the library and download it there yesterday too. They do have fatsre access than me being in the town it would take around a half hour use on the computers. I am not sure if I got it all. It was still about (started off about 5x and then got slower and slower) 2 to 3 times faster than I could have managed here thanks to that monopolisitc BT we have to endure in the UK.

The creators of the SDK really do need to consider this fact when releasing the SDK, if it is an update release it as an update option too as well as the full thing. Some of us just cannot download such large files.

Thanks for your help. I'll get around to installing it sometime tomorrow.


Bill.
BillE
Published: 2009/9/5 22:11  Updated: 2009/9/5 22:11
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 614
 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Quote:
@ All
ok... Cubic IDE has to be uninstalled or commented out in the user-startup and a reboot BEFORE using the update.


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