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Software News : REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Posted by ssolie on 2010/10/25 19:58:24 (4917 reads) News by the same author
Software News

REBOL 3 has just been released for the AmigaOS 4.1 and can be downloaded from the alpha downloads section.

REBOL 3 is currently in alpha and so is the Amiga version. Please read the documentation on the REBOL site for more information.

For those without AmigaOS you can also try REBOL 3 on a variety of other platforms or even directly on the web.

Note that a Host-Kit for REBOL 3 is still in development which will greatly extend what can be done with REBOL on the Amiga so stay tuned.


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afxgroup
Published: 2010/10/25 20:55  Updated: 2010/10/25 20:55
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Ahah! Fantastic news!
TSK
Published: 2010/10/25 20:58  Updated: 2010/10/25 20:58
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Nice news.
samo79
Published: 2010/10/25 21:21  Updated: 2010/10/25 21:21
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Kudos to Carl
cha05e90
Published: 2010/10/25 21:23  Updated: 2010/10/25 21:23
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Downloaded, started, typed "chat", told Granite to let R3 connect to the net - and failed... Hope to see progress in this project, thanks Carl.
ssolie
Published: 2010/10/25 21:48  Updated: 2010/10/25 21:48
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@cha05e90
I logged into chat and posted a message without any issues.
kas1e
Published: 2010/10/25 22:07  Updated: 2010/10/25 22:07
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
That cool.

@ssolie
Maybe you can briefly explain what can aos4 version of rebol for now, and what cant ? For example, i check that example-rebolo-programms-link. Will something of that works ? Or, should be ported some more sub-classes of rebol (for gfx, for sound, etc) ?
lazi
Published: 2010/10/26 1:06  Updated: 2010/10/26 1:12
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@kas1e

The load-gui function will download the current under-development GUI system.

Not yet available for our system.

Quote:
i check that example-rebolo-programms-link.


You can check those examples with the old 68k release. You can download it from this link: Rebol_View 68k AmigaOS

Simply run it and type 'demo'...
DAX
Published: 2010/10/26 8:21  Updated: 2010/10/26 8:21
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Anything from Carl on AmigaOS is super cool
kas1e
Published: 2010/10/26 9:31  Updated: 2010/10/26 9:31
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@lazi
Quote:

You can check those examples with the old 68k release. You can download it from this link: Rebol_View 68k AmigaOS


Thanks, but all that 68k checks its not interesting, interesting aos4 native. But thanks for point.
trixie
Published: 2010/10/26 10:05  Updated: 2010/10/26 10:05
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@ssolie
Out of curiosity: have there been any talks re making R3 part of OS4.1?
ikir
Published: 2010/10/26 11:32  Updated: 2010/10/26 11:32
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Very good news!! Some fresh air for our platform.
Valiant
Published: 2010/10/26 12:57  Updated: 2010/10/26 12:57
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@samo79

Yes, kudos to Carl, Steve, and everyone else who made it happen!

Daniel
Published: 2010/10/26 15:37  Updated: 2010/10/26 15:37
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Nice to see new developments . Good news.
ssolie
Published: 2010/10/26 17:24  Updated: 2010/10/26 17:24
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@trixie
Quote:
Out of curiosity: have there been any talks re making R3 part of OS4.1?

Yes, the topic did come up very recently.
HMK
Published: 2010/10/26 20:26  Updated: 2010/10/26 20:26
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
I hope Steve Solie doesn't mind that I answer for him.

R3 for AOS4 still lacks testing of the host-kit and does not yet have graphics attached. The host-kit is the coupling between R3 and the underlying OS. Therefore you have only the console for now, but you should be able to already now write extensions, to load various AmigaOS libraries and use them in R3.

The GUI and the graphics engine itself are two separate things, both being worked on by separate people. AFAIK, Steve is working on getting graphics to work on the AOS4 version.

The GUI is worked on by a separate company, which I work in, and it will be able to do other things than shown on the preview page, which is for REBOL 2.

It will be oriented towards business users, but should be able to accommodate most needs. When graphics are available (using the Anti-Grain Graphics) engine, you will be able to run the R3 GUI directly, whether it be AmigaOS, Windows, MacOSX, Linux or any other OS that R3 is ported to.
Coder
Published: 2010/10/26 22:00  Updated: 2010/10/26 22:00
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Does it also work on OS4 Pre-Release? Or is it 4.1 only?

Coder
kas1e
Published: 2010/10/26 22:04  Updated: 2010/10/26 22:04
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@HMK
Thanks for explain !

Did it mean, that every Rebol gui application will have uniq "rebol-kind-gui" look ? I.e. different menus , different windowses , etc ? Or it still will use os-specific parts ?
samo79
Published: 2010/10/26 22:33  Updated: 2010/10/26 22:33
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@kas1e

Yes, this is a good question
HMK
Published: 2010/10/26 22:38  Updated: 2010/10/26 22:38
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Quote:
Did it mean, that every Rebol gui application will have uniq "rebol-kind-gui" look ? I.e. different menus , different windowses , etc ? Or it still will use os-specific parts ?


It will have its own look (which is changing a lot these days), but eventually it should be skinnable, which means that someone will possibly build a skin that resembles the AOS4 GUI.

The windows are just AOS4 windows, but the content would be different in appearance. As an advantage, if you want to see it that way, REBOL applications would look almost exactly the same on any platform.

The GUI system doesn't use any AOS4 libraries such as Reaction or MUI to generate and render the GUI. For that, you would have to write an extension to take advantage of those libraries.
kas1e
Published: 2010/10/27 8:36  Updated: 2010/10/27 8:36
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@HMK
Quote:

The GUI system doesn't use any AOS4 libraries such as Reaction or MUI to generate and render the GUI. For that, you would have to write an extension to take advantage of those libraries.


That cool. So, in general by all of this it mean that we can build Rebol programs with usage reaction or/and mui.

How hard you think it will be (for example) to rewrite some kind of ICQ-messenger done on Rebol, from the Rebol inbuild GUI, to reaction extensions ? Its will be the same long/hard way as for example rewrite QT on MUI/Reaction, or, everything will be pretty easy ?
HMK
Published: 2010/10/27 13:15  Updated: 2010/10/27 13:15
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Quote:
How hard you think it will be (for example) to rewrite some kind of ICQ-messenger done on Rebol, from the Rebol inbuild GUI, to reaction extensions ? Its will be the same long/hard way as for example rewrite QT on MUI/Reaction, or, everything will be pretty easy ?


That probably depends on the extension API and how easy it is to program for Reaction or MUI.

It would also be possible later to call REBOL as a library/DLL and use it from inside your programs, if you want to do it that way.
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/10/27 15:03  Updated: 2010/10/27 15:03
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
I copied the exe into SYS:C/ renaming it R3.. from shell if i type R3 nothing happens.. it told me R3 is not executable...
HMK
Published: 2010/10/27 16:34  Updated: 2010/10/27 16:34
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
This is second hand information, as I don't have an OS4 box, so I'm just guessing:

protect +e r3

Does that work?
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/10/27 17:23  Updated: 2010/10/27 17:23
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
thanks, i already tried that option but not, that not make any difference.. someone knows how does it work under Amiga OS 4.1 ??
ssolie
Published: 2010/10/27 17:35  Updated: 2010/10/27 17:35
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@nubechecorre
Quote:
...someone knows how does it work under Amiga OS 4.1 ??

It already works but you have to do a little bit of work.

First, download the executable binary. Then rename it to something like "r3" and copy it to C:. Then turn on the executable bit with protect r3 +e and it runs just fine.
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/10/27 18:18  Updated: 2010/10/27 18:18
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
already did but still not work...
Snuffy
Published: 2010/10/27 20:20  Updated: 2010/10/27 20:20
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
@nubechecorre

Is it an ELF file ?
You start it up from SHELL...

This the Rebol greet message:
**
** Copyright: 2010 REBOL Technologies
** All rights reserved.
** Website: www.REBOL.com
**
** Version: 2.100.109.1.3
** Platform: Amiga none
** Build: 23-Oct-2010/5:44:56
** Warning: For testing purposes only. Use at your own risk.
**
** Language: none
** Locale: none
** Home: ./
**
****************************************
SECURE is disabled

Important notes:

* Sandbox and security are not available.
* Direct access to TCP HTTP required (no proxies).
* Default web browser must be available.

Special functions:

Chat - open DevBase developer forum/BBS
Docs - open DocBase document wiki (web)
Bugs - open CureCode bug database (web)
Demo - run demo launcher (from rebol.com)
Help - show built-in help information
Upgrade - check for newer releases
Changes - what's new about this version (web)

>>
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/10/28 11:24  Updated: 2010/10/28 11:24
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
i downloaded the file from this link:

http://www.rebol.com/r3/downloads.html

is it right?
kas1e
Published: 2010/10/28 13:27  Updated: 2010/10/28 13:27
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@nubechecorre
Write me at kas1e@yandex.ru, i will help you to sort all that problems.
HMK
Published: 2010/10/28 13:28  Updated: 2010/10/28 13:28
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 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
Yes, that's the correct link.
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/10/31 14:51  Updated: 2010/10/31 14:51
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Comments: 1873
 Re: REBOL 3 Released for AmigaOS
sorry for the late reply.. ok i'll do and hope to find what's wrong.. ;)
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