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Software News : Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate download
Posted by Rogue on 2010/4/30 13:20:00 (3259 reads) News by the same author
Software News

Brussels, Belgium ? April 30th, 2010

Hyperion Entertainment CVBA announces the immediate availability of Update 2 for AmigaOS 4.1 for AmigaOne, SAM440EP and Pegasos II for registered users.

Note that for this update you must have previously installed AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1.

Read more on Hyperion Entertainment's Web Site


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orgin
Published: 2010/4/30 11:44  Updated: 2010/4/30 11:44
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Also, feel free to use the Official AmigaOS4 feedback forum for reporting any issues.
BillE
Published: 2010/4/30 11:53  Updated: 2010/4/30 11:53
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From: Scarfskerry
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
The file still corrupts when downloading using IBrowse, did no one learn anything from last time ?
Vulture
Published: 2010/4/30 12:13  Updated: 2010/4/30 12:13
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Sweet! Gonna check it as soon as I get home!
BillE
Published: 2010/4/30 12:24  Updated: 2010/4/30 12:24
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From: Scarfskerry
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
1. Turboprint STILL crashes when printing plain text, it did NOT do this with the original OS4.1.

Note for most printers Turboprint support is essential as hardly any printers are covered by the native system.


2. The known problem of the kickstart file ATIRadeon chip is still not fixed. There is no new file in kickstart in the update so users should *still* revert to the one from the original OS4.1.

BTW. What is the point of reporting problems if the released updates do not contain the solutions to those problems?

This update seems (for me) to have fixed nothing. The problems with the last update are still unresolved
Helgis
Published: 2010/4/30 12:30  Updated: 2010/4/30 12:30
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From: Bergen/Norway
Comments: 416
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Wow, that was pretty fast, and be sure this will be pre-installed in AmigaOne X1000! Amazing stuffs!

Another banana dance party ready!

Congratulation, Hyperion Entertainment!
328gts
Published: 2010/4/30 13:19  Updated: 2010/4/30 13:24
Home away from home
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From: Man Cave, Canada
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
YES! what a great way to start off a Friday morning

Thanks again Hyperion
Slayer
Published: 2010/4/30 13:40  Updated: 2010/4/30 13:40
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Thanks Rogue

Well done team! Very much appreciated!
Helgis
Published: 2010/4/30 13:49  Updated: 2010/4/30 13:49
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Comments: 416
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Great to have such a forum for report of issues or problems. Will come in great handy to keep track of issues at one forum..
xeron
Published: 2010/4/30 14:10  Updated: 2010/4/30 14:10
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
@BillE

Your attitude is, IMHO, terrible. Nobody claimed the update would fix your specific bugs. Should Hyperion not release an update of OS4.1 until every single bug is fixed? Then you'd never get an update. Same with any operating system.

Besides...

Quote:

1. Turboprint STILL crashes when printing plain text, it did NOT do this with the original OS4.1.


Turboprint is a third party application which Hyperion don't provide any direct support for. The fact that it stopped working with update 1 might not even be indicative of a bug in OS4 itself, it could equally be that Turboprint is buggy, but in such a way that it happened to work anyway under original 4.1. If someone on the dev team uses turboprint and can reproduce the problem, i'm sure it will be fixed.

Quote:

2. The known problem of the kickstart file ATIRadeon chip is still not fixed. There is no new file in kickstart in the update so users should *still* revert to the one from the original OS4.1.


Whats wrong with the radeon support in update 1?

Quote:

BTW. What is the
point of reporting problems if the released updates do not contain the solutions to those problems?


The dev team are only human. YOUR bugs are not ALL bugs. Bugs are entered into a database, and the dev team work to fix them.
Templario
Published: 2010/4/30 15:05  Updated: 2010/4/30 15:05
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Thank for this new update for our system.
nubechecorre
Published: 2010/4/30 15:09  Updated: 2010/4/30 15:09
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Thanks for the work and the update
TSK
Published: 2010/4/30 15:14  Updated: 2010/4/30 15:14
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From: Finland, the land of Santa, sauna, sisu and salmiakki
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Big thank you all involved ! Very much appreciated !

interrogative
Published: 2010/4/30 15:15  Updated: 2010/4/30 15:15
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
BillE may correct me if I am wrong, but the Radeon driver problems show up in his astronomy program, which he sells to the Amiga OS4.x community. He is a developer who is very concerned about having a working product for his customers. If the OS has no support for his product, then he is "up a creek without a paddle" so to speak.

Concerning Turboprint, until OS4.x delivers modern printer drivers, we are left with PS or Turboprint. That's it.

Hyperion, I believe is doing a great job with limited resources getting a small group of developers to update the OS. With that said, perhaps they should put more effort toward the requests of the small group of developers that exist in the community.
IamSONIC
Published: 2010/4/30 15:39  Updated: 2010/4/30 15:39
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nice surprise, thanks
Swoop
Published: 2010/4/30 17:00  Updated: 2010/4/30 17:01
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Quote:
Turboprint is a third party application which Hyperion don't provide any direct support for. The fact that it stopped working with update 1 might not even be indicative of a bug in OS4 itself, it could equally be that Turboprint is buggy, but in such a way that it happened to work anyway under original 4.1. If someone on the dev team uses turboprint and can reproduce the problem, i'm sure it will be fixed.

Turboprint works fine here, on my A1XE G3-800.
I have never experienced the text printing problem described, but there is a conflict with the system print driver & Turboprint driver, when changing from one to the other.
Snuffy
Published: 2010/4/30 18:12  Updated: 2010/4/30 18:12
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Gak!
IBrowse and TurboPrint are not softwares of AmigaOS. Complain to to those parties please!
2. The known problem of the kickstart file ATIRadeon chip is still not fixed.
Oh great, I got a problem I didn't even know I had!!
With respects to DU, are we all on the same planet?
Sorry, the keyboard seems to be taking over....
trezzer
Published: 2010/4/30 18:40  Updated: 2010/4/30 18:40
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Installed just fine here. For some reason it didn't want to modify my kicklayout, though. I found that odd as I had not tampered with it. Now I have though, so it says update 2
Rogue
Published: 2010/4/30 19:22  Updated: 2010/4/30 19:22
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Quote:
The file still corrupts when downloading using IBrowse, did no one learn anything from last time ?


Rather no one cared. We do not support IBrowse, we require a CSS capable driver.

Quote:
he known problem of the kickstart file ATIRadeon chip is still not fixed. There is no new file in kickstart in the update so users should *still* revert to the one from the original OS4.1.


No, users should not revert to the one from the original OS 4.1. Maybe you could be a bit more constructive and tell me what bug you are referring to, and I'll see what can be done about it.

At least, this time you refrained from calling me an idiot. Which, in turn, makes me more inclined to try and help
Antique
Published: 2010/4/30 20:15  Updated: 2010/4/30 20:15
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Wow,this was a nice surprice. Unexpected as hell.
Keep up the good work.
Marko
Published: 2010/4/30 20:26  Updated: 2010/4/30 20:26
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Comments: 521
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Downloaded... and installed without any problems
Thanks Hyperion
logicalheart
Published: 2010/4/30 23:06  Updated: 2010/4/30 23:06
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Comments: 238
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Installed on my SAM and works fine. Thanks for the nice suprise team.

from website:
This is a minor update which contains mostly bugfixes.
Updated components include

Updated Python
New Cairo 1.8.10 with partial hardware acceleration
Updated Ringhio notification system
New version of AmiDock
Several fixed system libraries
New version of the Python-scriptable Installation Utility
A couple of updated Shared Object files compiled and linked with the new V2 SObjs ABI
wizzard_o
Published: 2010/4/30 23:27  Updated: 2010/4/30 23:27
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Comments: 49
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Excellent! Thanks OS4 Gurus!

Wizz.
Chris
Published: 2010/5/1 0:02  Updated: 2010/5/1 0:02
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 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
What a nice surprise, thanks OS4 team!
redfox
Published: 2010/5/1 4:09  Updated: 2010/5/1 4:55
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Comments: 315
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Updated to AmigaOS 4.1 Update 2 this evening.

Thanks,
redfox
Helgis
Published: 2010/5/1 9:40  Updated: 2010/5/1 9:40
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From: Bergen/Norway
Comments: 416
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Great to se so many happy faces here, like i am, even that i am not able to use it...yet.
Arnie
Published: 2010/5/1 9:54  Updated: 2010/5/1 9:54
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Comments: 72
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Great news, download and update work with no issues.

Thanks OS4 team.
Raziel
Published: 2010/5/1 14:29  Updated: 2010/5/1 14:29
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UUUUH, sweet

Thanks a lot, team

That came as a nice surprise after a week full of work

Keep on surprising us...you're doing an awesome job
JOS
Published: 2010/5/1 14:29  Updated: 2010/5/1 14:29
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From: NORWAY
Comments: 9
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
That's what I call a pleasant surprise.
Thanks, Hyperion!

Installed it on my Sam today. No problems so far.
Snuffy
Published: 2010/5/1 16:46  Updated: 2010/5/1 16:46
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Hi Rogue and OS4 Team,
Thanks for the Update2. Wow, the 'TK libs' in Python 2.5.5 are awesome!
Hans
Published: 2010/5/2 4:29  Updated: 2010/5/2 4:29
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@Rogue

Quote:
No, users should not revert to the one from the original OS 4.1. Maybe you could be a bit more constructive and tell me what bug you are referring to, and I'll see what can be done about it.


It's a line drawing bug. I'm pretty sure that I know why it's happening, but I haven't had time to fix it. I understand Bill's frustration that it still isn't fixed, particularly given that his application "Digital Universe" uses line drawing a lot. However, we all have plenty more things to take care of than just the bugs that he spots. It's on the to-do list; I just haven't had time for it yet.

Hans
BillE
Published: 2010/5/2 11:08  Updated: 2010/5/2 11:08
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> No, users should not revert to the one from the original OS 4.1.

If they want STANDARD Amiga line drawing functions to work correctly then they would need to. Not just in my application (now not an issue) but many pthers. What did surprise me is that such bugs can get out without testing in the first place, do you need someone to work on QA for you, I am willing. I can then tell you what does and does not work before releasing updates

> Maybe you could be a bit more constructive and tell me what bug you are referring to, and I'll see what can be done about it.

The bug is known to your devs, maybe you should keep in better contact with them ?

In fact I thought the cause was known and though I would not have expected the fix yet was surprised to see an update so assumed that it had. After all updates are for releasing fixes so this is an understandable assumption.
BillE
Published: 2010/5/2 11:14  Updated: 2010/5/2 11:14
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> t's a line drawing bug. I'm pretty sure that I know why it's happening, but I haven't had time to fix it.


Fair enough, its just when I saw the word "update" I thought you had managed already.

> particularly given that his application "Digital Universe" uses line drawing a lot


Version 1.7 of DU is unaffected as I worked around it and made some improvements in the process so thanks for the bug as it led to a better programme

However users of the current versions of DU should revert to the intitial OS4.1 ATIRadeon chip file until either the bug is fixed or DU 1.7 is released. Any other apps that have problems tough luck as I have no influence there.

Better to use a version that works than one that doesn't unless Rogue can tell us an over riding reason not to, the fact that the file is newer is not good enough reason as the newest publicly available file is broken
BillE
Published: 2010/5/2 11:24  Updated: 2010/5/2 11:25
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From: Scarfskerry
Comments: 588
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
> Turboprint works fine here, on my A1XE G3-800.
> I have never experienced the text printing
> problem described


Errm, wasn't it you that first pointed it out !

http://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/ ... t_id=44823#forumpost44823
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> I have Turboprint v7.0 set up in WBStartup.prefs, and it works fine,
> but when I try to print from Notepad my whole sytem (A1XE G3-800) locks up.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That is exactly the problem described, anything printing by using prt: locks up.
Graphics printing from Wordworth, DU etc. all work fine - it is plain text output
that causes the lock up. I suspect the TP print text as graphics is causing the
problem with the newer update kickstart files but did not with the base OS4.1.


If in the meantime you have found the solution to the TP lockup please let me know what you did ?
xeron
Published: 2010/5/2 11:36  Updated: 2010/5/2 11:37
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Comments: 413
 Re: Update 2 of AmigaOS 4.1 available for immediate down...
Quote:

What did surprise me is that such bugs can get out without testing in the first place,


We have a bug database. Bugs that haven't yet been fixed are "new", "open" or "assigned". When a dev thinks they've fixed it, they mark it as "open, fixed". People test it, when the fix is verified it becomes "verified, fixed", then the developer marks it as "closed".

Your bug hasn't been fixed. Nobody has yet found the time to fix it. It didn't slip through QA, it just hasn't been addressed. Update 2 was not intended to fix every single known bug. If it was, it would probably never get released.
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