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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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My compiled installation 'script' did (of course) include the source code, so I think that solves most of your objections?


There no way to verify that said src really is the src to the installer, so I'd say that was a no.

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@ChrisH
I tried your Version script and also checked with Diropus but version does not return anything.
I vcan confirm my old RadeonHD.chip was placed in storage and a later version different size file installed into kickstart.
so old Radeon.chip is 1662476 in size and dated 24.10.16 whilst the new Radeon.chip is now 1672456 in size and dated
25.03.17

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@broadblues Quote:
There no way to verify that said src really is the src to the installer, so I'd say that was a no.

Ummm, recompile it? (If you are really that distrusting of the author!)

Although I have to wonder what you do on Windows/Mac/etc, where compiled installers (without any source code) is the norm...

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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I have just changed the Enhancer Software Installation so it now creates a directory in ENVARC:Enhancer_Software and ENV:Enhancer_Software so it permanently stores your Icon colour preferences and also remembers the backup path. The latter was a bug and should have been already working but Installer wanted another set of ( ) around the condition.

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@ChrisH

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My compiled installation 'script' did (of course) include the source code, so I think that solves most of your objections?
Yes. Although of course it requires me to learn (some) E, but I guess that would be doable.

Best regards,

Niels

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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I have to wonder what you do on Windows/Mac/etc, where compiled installers (without any source code) is the norm...
Er ... avoid them?

Or to be more precise: At work they give me a Windows machine to work on, and they update it centrally, so I trust them to fix any problems arising from that. (AKA, SEP ).

At home, I do use Windows for a few things, but I don't trust it with my important data or do any important daily tasks on it.

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@ChrisH

Quote:
As I already mentioned, RunInUAE's installed used (what turned out to be) an entirely inappropriate language (AmigaDOS) for what eventually turned into a hugely complex installation script.

But from what I have seen, the classic Installer language (originally provided by Commodore) is not that much better, and is extremely verbose.


The advantage is that it is a consistent interface for the user, and it definitely is easier and more feature-rich than an AmigaDOS script for the developer (especially if you're doing absolutely anything more than copying a single file or directory without version checking), plus you get a GUI and logging "for free".

The fact it's "verbose" I don't think is really a problem? If anything, it makes it easier to tell what it does. If you're concerned you could write subroutines which do what you want and call them with single lines, but that seems a bit pointless unless it's a long complicated script.

Quote:
I haven't looked at Python, Hyperion's proposed replacement as an installation language, but presumably this has much more modern features, etc. Maybe Enhancer Software should have used this language for their installer?


Never used it, don't think there's any documentation, and I'd have to learn Python, so can't comment on its functionality. It doesn't appear to be able to do anything Installer can't already do though.

Quote:

Myself, I have 'experimented' with compiling an installer using a proper language (E!), but so far not been satisfied with the results (PortablE's installer works but it's not as easy to modify as it should be). I'm hoping that further experience will help me arrive at a suitable abstraction/framework...


Don't bother, just use an installation utility that is already designed for the job. Anything else is a colossal waste of time and effort.

edit Sorry, after posting this I felt compelled to point out that Installer isn't as scary as people seem to think. There's even an Installer script creator on Aminet if you don't want to handwrite scripts (I've not used it so not sure how good it is).

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@amigakit Quote:
I have just changed the Enhancer Software Installation so it now creates a directory in ENVARC:Enhancer_Software and ENV:Enhancer_Software so it permanently stores your Icon colour preferences and also remembers the backup path.

OK, that sounds like a good improvement, thanks.


Edited by ChrisH on 2017/8/5 13:56:46
Edited by ChrisH on 2017/8/5 14:00:17
Edited by ChrisH on 2017/8/5 14:02:49
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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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@Chris Quote:
Python ... It doesn't appear to be able to do anything Installer can't already do though.

What about supporting multiple local exception/error handlers, rather than only a single global one?

I would also consider the lack (((((insane (((bracket (((usage))) ))) ))))) to be a big plus :) . OK, Python goes a little too far in the opposite direction, but I could probably live with that.

IMHO the ideal scripting language for an installer would be JavaScript, simply because 'everyone' knows it. (The Ambian.js guy would probably agree, despite being a long time Pascal fantatic.)

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Don't bother, just use an installation utility that is already designed for the job. Anything else is a colossal waste of time and effort.

I understand your POV, but apart from having a severe dislike of languages (mainly Lisp) which use (((brackets (((for everything)))))), I also prefer to improve PortablE to handle as many tasks as well as possible. (Otherwise I would just be using C for everything, and not bother creating PortablE in the first place.)

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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I use this thread hope to do right. With the latest Enancher Software update, my usb has a lot of problem (i don't know why) and Amiga Input doesn't work anymore, everytime i get a GR.. I attach here the crashlog. My system is a Sam440ep:

Crash log for task "AmigaInput_usb_task"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.19
Crash occured in module kernel at address 0x014149B0
Type of crash
DSI (Data Storage Interruptexception
Alert number
0x0100000F

Register dump
:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
   
00141B604 57A29E00 00000000 014149C8 59067950 01DBAB0C 01DBAAFC 01DBAB6C 
   8
58ED1C60 00000001 00000000 7FFFFF80 28444888 00000000 5FFFE300 5BA42CE8 
  16
58582474 55F8B240 00000000 00FF00FF 5BC90000 5C26F850 11DEAD11 5BA2E6F0 
  24
581D4930 581D4950 00000001 57A29E00 01DBD992 59067950 59067950 01CA973C 


FPR 
(Floating Point RegistersNaN Not a Number):
   
0:              nan              nan                0                0 
   4
:                0                0                0                0 
   8
:                0              nan            32767            32768 
  12
:       4.5036e+15          258.008                0                0 
  16
:                0                0                0                0 
  20
:                0                0                0                0 
  24
:                0                0                0                0 
  28
:                0     6.47582e-319                0                0 

FPSCR 
(Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82008000


SPRs 
(Special Purpose Registers):
           
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002B030
                Condition 
(cr) : 0x00000001
      Instruction Pointer 
(ip) : 0x014149B0
       Xtended Exception 
(xer) : 0xFFFFFFFF
                   Count 
(ctr) : 0x80080008
                     Link 
(lr) : 0x55AFA2DC
            DSI Status 
(dsisr) : 0x80080009
            Data Address 
(dar) : 0x55AFA348



680x0 emulated registers
:
DATA00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
ADDR
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
FPU0
:                0                0                0                0 
FPU4
:                0                0                0                0 



Symbol info
:
Instruction pointer 0x014149B0 belongs to module "kernel" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
    
native kernel module kernel+0x000149b0
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0001b60c
    module SetPatch at 0x6FFCBE48 
(section 5 0x5E24)
    
module SetPatch at 0x6FFCBDDC (section 5 0x5DB8)
    
module LIBS:usbhidgate.library at 0x6FF71880 (section 5 0x185C)
    
module LIBS:usbhidgate.library at 0x6FF70E88 (section 5 0xE64)
    
module LIBS:usbhidgate.library at 0x6FF70640 (section 5 0x61C)
    
module CURRDIR:Generic_usb.driver at 0x6F7C7BFC (section 5 0x1BD8)
    
module CURRDIR:Generic_usb.driver at 0x6F7C9D24 (section 5 0x3D00)
    
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x000255c8
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0003e7b4
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0003e7fc

PPC disassembly
:
 
014149a8606349c8   ori               r3,r3,18888
 014149ac
44000002   sc                
*014149b04e800020   blr               
 014149b4
7c641b78   mr                r4,r3
 014149b8
3c600141   lis               r3,321

System information
:

CPU 
 Model
AMCC PPC440EP V1.3 
 CPU speed
666 MHz 
 FSB speed
133 MHz 
 Extensions
:  

Machine 
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524288 KB 
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  00
:0A.0 Vendor 0x12D8 Device 0x8150 
  00
:0C.0 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0x4C66 
   Range 0
A8000000 B0000000 (PREF.MEM
   
Range 100001000 00001100 (IO
   
Range 2B0000000 B0010000 (MEM
  
00:0E.0 Vendor 0x1095 Device 0x3114 
   Range 0
00001100 00001108 (IO
   
Range 100001108 00001110 (IO
   
Range 200001110 00001118 (IO
   
Range 300001118 00001120 (IO
   
Range 400001120 00001130 (IO
  
01:04.0 Vendor 0x1013 Device 0x6005 
   Range 0
A0000000 A0001000 (MEM
   
Range 1A0010000 A0020000 (MEM
  
01:05.0 Vendor 0x1131 Device 0x1561 
   Range 0
A0020000 A0021000 (MEM
  
01:05.1 Vendor 0x1131 Device 0x1561 
   Range 0
A0021000 A0022000 (MEM
  
01:05.2 Vendor 0x1131 Device 0x1562 
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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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Posts: 1451
@nubechecorre

Strange, neither usbhidgate.library nor Generic_usb.driver are parts of Enhancer package.

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Re: Many issues with updating Enhancer Software
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Posts: 3438
@nubechecorre
This thread was really intended for problems with the update process itself (not problems after the update seemingly completed OK).

I think you should post your problem in the "Enhancer Bug thread":
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum ... php?topic_id=7535&forum=3

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