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Software News : Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Posted by Rigo on 2009/7/5 13:50:00 (3477 reads) News by the same author
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AmigaOS 4.1 development has pushed forward in a lot of areas lately, so it is time to share some of those with you, and show you just where the current beta snapshot is.

I have uploaded some screenshots here to have a look at.

Updated I have changed the screen shots, as it appears I didn't load the theme correctly. The screen shots now show the "SilverGreen" theme in all it's glory. You may need to hit "Refresh" to flush the old images.



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Alkaron
Published: 2009/7/5 14:52  Updated: 2009/7/5 14:52
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Nice! Looking really good.. Esp. dropshadows.. like it alot..
BillE
Published: 2009/7/5 15:28  Updated: 2009/7/5 15:28
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Nice, I do hope the icons are also available in a smaller size, those ones are just a bit too big for my tastes.
cha05e90
Published: 2009/7/5 15:30  Updated: 2009/7/5 15:30
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hmmm... "Startup" preferences. Interesting.
MetalJoe
Published: 2009/7/5 15:45  Updated: 2009/7/5 15:45
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Really like the drop shadows.
saimo
Published: 2009/7/5 16:19  Updated: 2009/7/6 15:39
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@Rigo

Thanks for sharing

I'm not interested in drop-shadows and the icons are too big also for me (using a resolution of 1440x900 pixels), but in case smaller ones aren't provided, I guess I'll just put together a script that automatically scales them down - but this may not be just as easy to others, so please consider including a smaller icon set as well.
One thing I'm really concerned about is that the GUI preferences still keep together aestethic and functional preferences: I wish they were separate, so that themes wouldn't affect the user-GUI interaction (it makes no sense that changing the aspect of windows also affects keyboard shortcuts, for instance). I think I've already suggested this somewhere else, so please excuse me if it sounds repetitive.
Swoop
Published: 2009/7/5 16:26  Updated: 2009/7/5 16:26
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I like the Startup preferences, much better than dragging commodoties to WBStartup.
nubechecorre
Published: 2009/7/5 16:47  Updated: 2009/7/5 16:47
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
The new icon set is amazing gives at amiga os a more professional look and they have an high level of details like the ahi icon or dvplayer icon or media tool box icon

For startup preferences i like it too very handy for startup programs
TSK
Published: 2009/7/5 17:16  Updated: 2009/7/5 17:16
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@Swoop + others
Quote:
I like the Startup preferences, much better than dragging commodoties to WBStartup.

Why ?? I've never understood problem dragging icons myself. (But everybody has their own taste, of course.)

@Rigo
You teaser......... /me wants me wants...
Rigo
Published: 2009/7/5 17:19  Updated: 2009/7/5 17:19
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
The problem with dragging things into WBStartup, is that it actually copies the files, and updating the version in WBStartup doesn't update the "other" version elsewhere.

The Startup preferences is still open to debate, so don't count on it being present on the next public release. Testing is still ongoing.

Simon
saimo
Published: 2009/7/5 17:21  Updated: 2009/7/5 17:23
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@TSK

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Why ?? I've never understood problem dragging icons myself. (But everybody has their own taste, of course.)

Fully agreed.
Tuxedo
Published: 2009/7/5 18:03  Updated: 2009/7/5 18:03
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All nice(Startup Prefs or not no matter for me...I use nicely WBStartUp too), onlu one BIG problem...
BIG ICONS!!!!!
Here on 1680+1050 22" monitor was REALLY too BIG...
It seems to me the same as the icons shipped with Filer from origin...
Sorry but dont like it!
The currewnt icon set from AmigaOS4.1 was PERFECT for me...
So plz...put an oiption to choose the dimensions of the icons to be installed...(the current64x64 was, as spoke above) perfect for me and my 1680x1050 res...
kas1e
Published: 2009/7/5 18:13  Updated: 2009/7/5 18:15
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What i like from these screens:

- New look of windowes (the current ones, are "too empty" and "too simply" for me. Some time it looks a bit bad ... like normal-good app, in the primitive window with only some gadgets and borders. The new ones looks good.

- drop shadow : why not. It's good to have somethink which visually more impressive than the default ones. Not sure that it's big deal, but good anyway.

What i dislike:

- the icons set looks for me "too blue". It's like "blue attack". Every directory by blue color, most of prefserences are blue too. Imho enough already :)

@rigo
some questions for you:

- did current version of beta-os41 have more configurable and updated "cli" window ? I mean somethink like "kingcon", but already builted into the OS, with wheel support, etc.

- are window look configurable ? I mean maybe it has some "themes" which can be choiced to make intuition stuff looks different and good looking ?

ps. Imho, OS4 must be with "Sets" of icons, which user can choice ("themes" i mean). Becouse someone like big icons, some one not. Some one like when everythink in blue color, someone not. Someone like the default window look, someone not..

And yep, never have any problems with wbstartup :) Just put what you need and no probs :)
Rigo
Published: 2009/7/5 18:26  Updated: 2009/7/5 18:26
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Yes, the console and it's associated components are under constant development to bring it up to date.

There are a number of "official" themes on the CD, along with any others that may make good contributions (like the above one)

The screen shots were taken at 1280*1024. Those of you with larger screenmodes will be looking at the image out of perspective, the icons really are not that big. When you first look at it, it is a bit of a shock, I agree. You soon get used to it. Lets be honest, none of us are getting any younger, and our eyes will be getting worse :)

Currently, scaling the iconset in the screenshots is not considered an option as it would lead to an unacceptable loss of detail and quality. To draw these icons in every conceivable size to suit all screenmodes is far too much work to be even plausible, let alone possible.

There are all sorts of repercussions with WBStartup, it has had it's day. The Startup preferences system considered above gives an easy way to enable/disable modules at will without the need to drag them out into a different directory. There is a forum thread started which is discussing the need for "managers" to handle all this kind of stuff for us, and WBStartup is one area that is sadly lacking in this respect. All hail Startup Preferences :)
Tuxedo
Published: 2009/7/5 19:13  Updated: 2009/7/5 19:16
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mmm.that all was in a boing bag or what?
and *when* it will be released?
In "just two more weeks" ? :D

EDIT: excusme but for me that icons was REALLY too big... as mentioned the icons seems the same(correct me if worng) of the ones shipped with Filer an,thrust me, here was very ugly near the others form AmigaOS4.1 installation...
samo79
Published: 2009/7/5 19:30  Updated: 2009/7/5 19:38
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@Tuxedo

Yes I agree with you, that new icons seems too big also for me and I use 1680*1050 res, the actual standard dimention seems perfect to me

@Rigo

An option to scaling automatically the iconset it is necessary IMHO, there are some times again before the new update will be released I think so I hope that an option like this can become availible
saimo
Published: 2009/7/5 20:14  Updated: 2009/7/6 15:40
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@Rigo

Quote:
There are all sorts of repercussions with WBStartup, it has had it's day. The Startup preferences system considered above gives an easy way to enable/disable modules at will without the need to drag them out into a different directory. There is a forum thread started which is discussing the need for "managers" to handle all this kind of stuff for us, and WBStartup is one area that is sadly lacking in this respect. All hail Startup Preferences :)

Ah, so WBStartup will be replaced by a new mechanism exposed to the user by the manager? Well, that's fine, then. I was worried about useless duplication and possibly entailing inconsistencies. Just a pledge, though: please make the configuration file human-readable (I don't fancy XML but it would already be something).

EDIT: sorry, I can't resist, but I have to take a stab at this:
Quote:
Currently, scaling the iconset in the screenshots is not considered an option as it would lead to an unacceptable loss of detail and quality.

I know many won't agree, but it's a major mistake putting more and more details in icons and making the GUI look more complex in general. That's trading readability for eye-candy.
kas1e
Published: 2009/7/5 20:33  Updated: 2009/7/5 20:33
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Agree with Saimo.

Also want to say: some of us have good eyes, some have bad already, some will have, some will not. Our childrens have perfectect eyes. Anywya, making os and base it on the old-die ppls not what is must be as idea :)
BillE
Published: 2009/7/5 20:40  Updated: 2009/7/5 20:40
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Quote:

The Startup preferences is still open to debate, so don't count on it being present on the next public release. Testing is still ongoing.


That looks like an EXCELLENT idea to me


Bill.
BillE
Published: 2009/7/5 20:49  Updated: 2009/7/5 20:49
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Quote:

Lets be honest, none of us are getting any younger, and our eyes will be getting worse :)


Not for me. my eyes in my 50s are better than they have ever been thanks to an awful lot of money (that I don't really have) spent on laser surgery last year. I am still getting used to be able to see single points on my 21" monitor rather than a big blur (and that was WITH my old glasses too)

I prefer to use a large screen size to fit more in rather than have it cluttered by big icons. That just seems a waste of space.

It is a rather *minor* point as it is easy to replace icons by the ones you like anyway


Bill.
kas1e
Published: 2009/7/5 20:57  Updated: 2009/7/5 20:57
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@billy
It's easy, but it's not what user want to do in os anyway. I prefered some "options" which will give you choice: 64x64, 128x128 or kind. Times of boring routines works for changed all the icons in the system by hands are over (imho). It's not hard to implement 100%, just if developers will in interest about users they will do that (becouse it's not only one man opinion).
MichaelMerkel
Published: 2009/7/5 21:02  Updated: 2009/7/5 21:02
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well, i use startupmanager already (os4depot) and don't want to miss it.
the "old" way forces you to copy the executables to the wbstartup drawer. that is not so nice. you aleways have to update the files twice if you get never versions. also it is easier to trmporarly (de)activate programs or to define the start sequence.

byebye...
cha05e90
Published: 2009/7/5 23:11  Updated: 2009/7/5 23:11
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...and now something completly different...

In the Documentation drawer of my OS4.1 partition i found a text document that mentionend a "startup sound" of a (i suppose) japanese musician named Hirasawa. In Rigos screenshot i can read the the same name - a wave file - in the "Sound prefs" window. I were not able to find this sound file...not on my OS4.1 CD and nowhere on the installation. What's this mysterious sound? Where is it? Or was the original A1000 beeps done by him? (This is what i use at the moment as startup sound...)
nbache
Published: 2009/7/5 23:56  Updated: 2009/7/5 23:56
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Hmm, strange. It seems to be missing from the Sam version of the OS 4.1 CD. On the A1 version it is in System/Prefs/Presets/Sounds/ as Hirasawa.wav, filesize 885804.

Best regards,

Niels
nbache
Published: 2009/7/6 0:09  Updated: 2009/7/6 0:09
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@saimo:
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One thing I'm really concerned about is that the GUI preferences still keep together aestethic and functional preferences: I wish they were separate, so that themes wouldn't affect the user-GUI interaction (it makes no sense that changing the aspect of windows also affects keyboard shortcuts, for instance).

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Where in GUI prefs does the changing of a window aspect affect keyboard shortcuts? I don't remember seeing such a combination. In fact, I don't remember seeing anything regarding keyboard shortcuts at all in GUI prefs -- well, except for the bottom right group on the last page where you can select the qualifier key(s) to use for screen dragging. But maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

Best regards,

Niels
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Published: 2009/7/6 0:34  Updated: 2009/7/6 0:48
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Where in GUI prefs does the changing of a window aspect affect keyboard shortcuts? I don't remember seeing such a combination. In fact, I don't remember seeing anything regarding keyboard shortcuts at all in GUI prefs -- well, except for the bottom right group on the last page where you can select the qualifier key(s) to use for screen dragging. But maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

My bad, "keyboard shortcuts" doesn't exactly express what I meant in the example - and I meant precisely the qualifiers you mentioned.
But the sense of what I was saying is broader. I was referring to the *functional* preferences as a whole: the "Controls" section is entirely dedicated to the functionality of the GUI, and also the "Menus" and "Options" sections have several functional preferences. Those should definitely not be affected by a change of theme.
Tuxedo
Published: 2009/7/6 1:29  Updated: 2009/7/6 1:29
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About the startup sound:
I hope that now it will be readed via datatypes and not only wav format...
was really ugly to be force to save it in taht way only... :P
PEB
Published: 2009/7/6 4:56  Updated: 2009/7/6 5:06
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I'm amazed that so many people dislike the new, larger icons (only 18 pixels taller and wider), especially when they have higher resolution monitors than years ago. Didn't you guys increase the point size of your system fonts when you made the move to a higher screen resolution? Or do you all like to keep the point size of your fonts super small so that you can fit more text on the screen?

I think the new icons (and their new size) are fantastic! Everyone is entitled to his own opinion; but, personally, I can't wait to be able to have all of my icons match the new ones available with Filer and OWB.

Keep up the great work Mason!
shadowsun
Published: 2009/7/6 9:41  Updated: 2009/7/6 9:41
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Don't like this theme : I hope, it's not the default one !

Suggestion : I didn't find if there is a way to reorder a windows content with view by icons :
- drawer first (alphabetical order)
- then programs (alphabetical order)

like the utilities drawer by default (except the prefs drawer).
Kotler
Published: 2009/7/6 12:02  Updated: 2009/7/6 15:20
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Good stuff!

- Startup manager
(Just drag 'n' drop the program icon to the
Startup Prefs window and it will be added.
I like the sound of that!)

- New big, nice, more detailed icons.
(I believe this is the 3rd generation of
Mason Icons's, the best one so far!)

- Dropshadow for windows and titlebar
(Eye candy! Wohoo )

How will this be released? Is it a service release
to set a new "bottom" configuration across
all OS4.1 platforms?

Regards,
Kotler
mr2
Published: 2009/7/6 14:40  Updated: 2009/7/6 14:40
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Very nice pics, especially the first one, beautiful icons, nice gadgedts...

but icons are too big. I like lots of room and have bought 26'' monitor, don't want to buy 30'' Apple Cinema Display

Its still 4.1 not 4.2 nor 5.0 so dont expect many new features.
Kotler
Published: 2009/7/6 15:21  Updated: 2009/7/6 15:21
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Hi, are you a beta tester? You sound like
you know what it is?
Amigo1
Published: 2009/7/6 15:43  Updated: 2009/7/7 0:43
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I like the big icons. Good job Mason!!
For the sake of trying to make everyone happy, leave the "old ones" in the CD too.
It should not be that hard to change all icons with a script on a fresh installed system.

edit: on a second view, the RAM Disk icon looks like, mmm.. actually I don't recognize it as such. maybe it is going to be changed?
saimo
Published: 2009/7/6 15:46  Updated: 2009/7/6 18:22
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@Kotler

I hope mr2 doesn't mind if I answer your question: quite simply, that's what the original post suggests ("AmigaOS 4.1 development has pushed forward in a lot of areas lately, so it is time to share some of those with you, and show you just where the current beta snapshot is.").

Moreover, the snapshots show only some minor changes, which cannot be taken as a sign of the imminence of version 4.2 (of course, other changes could justify a bigger revision number, but none is shown in the screenshots).
Kotler
Published: 2009/7/6 16:32  Updated: 2009/7/6 16:32
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Saimo,

You're right, it does say OS4.1. Well, let's hope
it's not the x-mas update, I hope we will get
access to it earlier.
abalaban
Published: 2009/7/6 16:55  Updated: 2009/7/6 16:55
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shown version numbers are still v53 so it's still AmigaOS 4.1, no doubt !
mr2
Published: 2009/7/6 17:42  Updated: 2009/7/6 17:42
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No, I'm not a betatester but on the first picture you can see CD icon labeled AmigaOS4.1 Sam440ep Install while my CD, AmigaOS4.1 Install. So I assume it is final test of OS4.1 for Sam. That doesn't mean of course, the developers don't have some big iprovements on hard disks but I wouldn't hold my breath now They have to relese 4.1 and leave something for the future

Even though, it's nice to have some extra features added not only bug fixes.
saimo
Published: 2009/7/6 18:23  Updated: 2009/7/6 18:23
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shown version numbers are still v53 so it's still AmigaOS 4.1, no doubt !

BTW, those are exactly the same numbers all of our systems report after the QuickFix
Tuxedo
Published: 2009/7/6 21:17  Updated: 2009/7/6 21:17
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@PEB

SOrry but I dislike the size and the stryle of that new icons unfortunately...
ATM the current ico set from AmigaOS4.1 CD was FANTASTIC to me...
?Perfect size and perfect design!
Naturally everyone have an idea on that things(regarding itsle fideas...) and noone have more reason than another...
Simply I disliike that BIG icons(and not so cute design as before..)...that's all...

IMHO naturally...
nbache
Published: 2009/7/6 23:41  Updated: 2009/7/6 23:41
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@shadowsun:
Quote:
I didn't find if there is a way to reorder a windows content with view by icons :
- drawer first (alphabetical order)
- then programs (alphabetical order)

Window->Order by->type does that for me.

Best regards,

Niels
nbache
Published: 2009/7/6 23:47  Updated: 2009/7/6 23:47
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@saimo:
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My bad, "keyboard shortcuts" doesn't exactly express what I meant in the example - and I meant precisely the qualifiers you mentioned.
But the sense of what I was saying is broader. I was referring to the *functional* preferences as a whole: the "Controls" section is entirely dedicated to the functionality of the GUI, and also the "Menus" and "Options" sections have several functional preferences. Those should definitely not be affected by a change of theme.

Okay, I understand. And I agree. Are those settings really affected by a change of theme? I must admit I haven't played enough with the themes features, I'll have to check that out. (Guess I'm just not that much of an eye candy man . I like it when stuff looks good, but I can't be bothered to mess with the little details for hours on end).

Best regards,

Niels
Raziel
Published: 2009/7/7 1:19  Updated: 2009/7/7 1:19
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The icons are awesome, the startup manager is awesome, the window theme is awesome and all the little things that will come are awesome aswell.

All hail the devs ... can't wait
saimo
Published: 2009/7/7 10:06  Updated: 2009/7/7 10:06
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Okay, I understand. And I agree. Are those settings really affected by a change of theme?

Yes, because the GUI settings are all stored to the same file (ENVARC:Sys/gui.prefs).

Quote:
I must admit I haven't played enough with the themes features, I'll have to check that out. (Guess I'm just not that much of an eye candy man :).

Not being an eye-candy man is precisely why, instead, I fiddle around with GUI settings: no theme is ever as simple and clear as I wish (f.ex., the themes shown in the screenshots, to me are over-complicated, space-eating and bad-looking)
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@tuxedo

Quote:

About the startup sound:
I hope that now it will be readed via datatypes and not only wav format...
was really ugly to be force to save it in taht way only... :P


Then though you have to wait for your datatypes to load before you could play it. Ceases to be a startup sound then .....
broadblues
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@PEB

I'm bugrudgingly sold on the size of the icons as they look so good. But I wouldn't want them any bigger.

Quote:

Didn't you guys increase the point size of your system fonts when you made the move to a higher screen resolution? Or do you all like to keep the point size of your fonts super small so that you can fit more text on the screen?


What's the point of paying for a bigger screen if you can't get more on it?

Actually I went half an half, since my a1200 days I've doubled the screen size and increased font point size by about 1.5. Best of both worlds. If my screen was physically twice the size I wouldn't have changed the point size at all. When I'm doing any kind of real work, whether it's webdesign/music recording/video mixing/or programing I need as much screen real estate as possible. That's where the screens system really comes in!
ChrisH
Published: 2009/7/11 1:11  Updated: 2009/7/11 17:52
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Hmm, strange. It seems to be missing from the Sam version of the OS 4.1 CD. On the A1 version it is in System/Prefs/Presets/Sounds/ as Hirasawa.wav, filesize 885804.

As I'm a fan of Hirasawa's music, I'd love to get hold of this start-up sound. Could someone please send it to me? My email address can be found here.
ChrisH
Published: 2009/7/11 1:15  Updated: 2009/7/11 1:15
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
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I'm amazed that so many people dislike the new, larger icons ... when they have higher resolution monitors than years ago. Didn't you guys increase the point size of your system fonts when you made the move to a higher screen resolution? Or do you all like to keep the point size of your fonts super small so that you can fit more text on the screen?

As screen sizes have increased, pixel sizes have not changed (much). This means that icons/text has NOT gotten smaller, although it might seem that way since you can fit more on screen now!

What's the point of a larger screen, if you don't fit anything more on it? So yes, I have hardly increased text size.
ChrisH
Published: 2009/7/11 1:20  Updated: 2009/7/11 1:20
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
Regarding the new theme, I really like the fake-reflective metallic buttons/etc. But I very much dislike some of the actual window border gadgets (e.g. round scroll bar vs square scroll arrows). Hopefully there will be a less fussy/messy version of this theme...
BillE
Published: 2009/7/14 23:42  Updated: 2009/7/14 23:42
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 Re: Updated OS4.1 Screenshots
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What's the point of a larger screen, if you don't fit anything more on it?


That is exactly the point, I want to fit "more" on it, not just go back to the days of low resolutions when a window with a few icons filled the entire screen. I like the "space" bigger resolutions give me.

Mind you I am sort of changing my mind about the icons, a bit too large for me for everything, but Martin sent me some icons for DU and 3DStars and they are friggin' brilliant

I think I could get used to the new size. It may look as if I am still using an 800 x 600 screen, on my 1280x1024 but the icons are certainly far better drawn than in the old days.

I just need to buy a bigger monitor now to display them nicely.

Goodness knows how those who want OS4 on one of those daft mobile devices are going to cope with the bigger icons - but then who cares about that crap hardware that you have to squint and wear reading glasses to look at


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