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Software News : AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Posted by Lecta on 2007/12/8 15:10:00 (8499 reads) News by the same author

Resized ImageAMIGA OS4 for Classic released!
Bassano del Grappa (Italy) - 30th November 2007

ACube Systems Srl is pleased to to announce the immediate availability of the awaited AmigaOS 4.0 for Amiga 1200, 3000(T) or 4000(T) with a PowerPC CPU, developed by Hyperion Entertainment VOF. It is now possible to benefit of all the features of this new AmigaOS release, an operating system famous for its efficiency and small footprint.

Related News: AmigaKit informs us that they expect to take delivery of AOS4 for immediate distribution to customers by early to middle of next week

AmigaOS 4.0, thanks to its power and optimization, succeeds in using at the maximum even systems running at 160Mhz, allowing the multimedia performances and the usability everyone expects from AmigaOS.

The interest expressed towards this new AmigaOS version is so high that, actually, orders are twice than expected. This shows that the Amiga community is still strong and that it enjoys and support the efforts made by Hyperion Entertainment VOF and ACube Systems Srl to develop and promote concrete and powerful products.

It's possible to order AmigaOS 4.0 for "Classic" Amigas directly from ACube Systems or from a reseller listed on page
http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers



http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers/images/os4_1.jpg
http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers/images/os4_2.jpg


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sundown
Published: 2007/11/30 1:02  Updated: 2007/11/30 1:02
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Comments: 384
 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Y..E..S!!!!
SZAMAN
Published: 2007/11/30 1:42  Updated: 2007/11/30 1:42
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Hyperion & ACube

Sto lat, sto lat,
Niech zyja, zyja nam.
Sto lat, sto lat,
Niech zyja, zyja nam,
Jeszcze raz, jeszcze raz, niech zyja, zyja nam,
Niech zyja nam!

http://www.polishamericancenter.org/StoLat.htm

TSK
Published: 2007/11/30 1:45  Updated: 2007/11/30 1:45
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Congratulations !

SKOLMAN_MWS
Published: 2007/11/30 2:54  Updated: 2007/11/30 2:54
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orgin
Published: 2007/11/30 7:44  Updated: 2007/11/30 7:44
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From: Sweden
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Ordered a copy from a swedish dealer a few days ago. Not that i can use it, but just to get the box and to show a little support.
AmiKit
Published: 2007/11/30 7:46  Updated: 2007/11/30 7:46
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great news!
Raziel
Published: 2007/11/30 9:12  Updated: 2007/11/30 9:12
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Thank you
acefnq
Published: 2007/11/30 9:13  Updated: 2007/11/30 9:13
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FANTASTIC WORK.

ace
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/11/30 9:22  Updated: 2007/11/30 9:22
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great news!!
ikir
Published: 2007/11/30 10:10  Updated: 2007/11/30 10:10
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ACube keep delivering the promises.... Amiga inc should learn a lot from them.
AmigaPapst
Published: 2007/11/30 10:32  Updated: 2007/11/30 10:32
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I love news like this and such pictures.
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/11/30 11:56  Updated: 2007/11/30 11:56
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It is in my hand !! oh my god the package is great and the instruction manual is wonderfull !! oh my is from the time of workbench's manual that i don't see nothing like that but this time is not black and white but color !!
Mikey_C
Published: 2007/11/30 12:06  Updated: 2007/11/30 12:06
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
you're pulling our legs! You can't have got it already? surely?
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/11/30 13:15  Updated: 2007/11/30 13:15
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yes ! i live in italy and the delivery with ups are fast if they are inside the country
Cool_amigaN
Published: 2007/11/30 13:51  Updated: 2007/11/30 13:51
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AmiGame
Published: 2007/11/30 15:05  Updated: 2007/11/30 15:05
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@All involved !

Congratulations ! Promise kept (release date), even better !!!

Jerry
ssolie
Published: 2007/11/30 18:06  Updated: 2007/11/30 18:06
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great job by ACube on the web site etc. as well!

Seems Hyperion has picked a good partner for a change.
glames
Published: 2007/11/30 19:17  Updated: 2007/12/1 10:32
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Congrats to all involved!!

I definitely like the idea of the printed manual comeback
Antique
Published: 2007/11/30 19:31  Updated: 2007/11/30 19:31
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
This is great news. Go Hyperion. I get wet dreams when watching the pictures of the os4 box

@orgin:
Who's selling os4 in sweden?
Jurassicc
Published: 2007/11/30 19:38  Updated: 2007/11/30 19:38
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@Antique

click on the link in the news item.
Outcast
Published: 2007/11/30 22:07  Updated: 2007/11/30 22:07
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Oh Maaaan

Good news indeed.

Oh Carl... Good to see your were not involved in that Taunton Crash T'other night !!
OldAmigan
Published: 2007/12/1 0:06  Updated: 2007/12/1 0:08
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Wouldn't a SAM type board as an addition to the A1200/3000/4000 be nice to run OS4 on?
fjudde
Published: 2007/12/1 10:48  Updated: 2007/12/1 10:48
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@Antique
Quote:
Who's selling os4 in sweden?


HAST Enterprises

http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers/
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/12/1 11:27  Updated: 2007/12/1 11:27
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
It is more fast than i could ever imagine.. wow and the installation is very very easy just put the floppy and the cd and amiga makes all

Thanks Hyperion and ACube for this great software .. only amiga makes it possible
nubechecorre
Published: 2007/12/1 17:41  Updated: 2007/12/1 17:42
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Should i create a post for problem about amiga os for classic ? i have problem about graphics that get corrupted on the top border of the window and the amiga screen..
My config is

AMIGA 1200+MEDIATOR+PPC+128Mbram+VOODOO 3 3000

I have also problem with the resolutions i can use only 800x600 because higher resolution are wrongly displayed even with the right settings of my monitor ( the same that i use with my micro )..
nbache
Published: 2007/12/3 0:27  Updated: 2007/12/3 0:27
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@OldAmigan:
Quote:
Wouldn't a SAM type board as an addition to the A1200/3000/4000 be nice to run OS4 on?

Hey, what an excellent idea! I wonder why nobody has thought of this before? I can't possibly imagine what could be stopping them.

(Sorry, couldn't resist a bit of irony for once.)

Best regards,

Niels
DiscreetFX
Published: 2007/12/3 1:37  Updated: 2007/12/3 1:37
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orgin
Published: 2007/12/3 12:42  Updated: 2007/12/3 13:01
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@nbache

Well, one does wonder what would be required to get the classic os4 package to run on the SAM. In terms of drivers and such. As a community effort separated from Hyperion and ACube.

Amiga Inc (or whatever they are called this afternoon) wouldn't be able to say much about that, licensed or not.

All the while Hyperion/Acube gets more sales from the classic version.

Edit:
Sort of like AmiKit. An installer with the required drivers and patches that requires the classic OS4 CD.
Swoop
Published: 2007/12/5 12:41  Updated: 2007/12/5 12:41
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Can this news item be made sticky, it is quite important.
klesterjr
Published: 2007/12/5 16:22  Updated: 2007/12/5 16:22
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@orgin

I like this idea a LOT.
Rogue
Published: 2007/12/5 20:37  Updated: 2007/12/5 20:37
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Quote:
Well, one does wonder what would be required to get the classic os4 package to run on the SAM. In terms of drivers and such. As a community effort separated from Hyperion and ACube.


The classic kernel is written for 603/604 CPU's, while the SAM440 has a 440 (as the name implies), which pretty much ruins the plan. The CPU is totally different.
Snuffy
Published: 2007/12/5 21:15  Updated: 2007/12/5 21:15
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nubechecorre

You make me sick!
orgin
Published: 2007/12/6 5:09  Updated: 2007/12/6 5:09
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@Rogue

I see. Too bad then.
AmiGame
Published: 2007/12/6 9:51  Updated: 2007/12/6 9:51
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@Rogue,

Are you currently working on a SAM440 AOS4 version ?

Jerry
ChrisH
Published: 2007/12/6 17:58  Updated: 2007/12/6 17:58
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@Swoop
You can always pour glue on it, if you're desperate to make it sticky!
orgin
Published: 2007/12/7 9:32  Updated: 2007/12/7 9:32
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@Rogue

Just as a separate discussion.

There's generally large differences between different ppc processors? In contrast to say x86 processors I mean. As there's usually no problems installing an old redhat linux on a todays x86 processor that wasn't even though of back when the distro was made.

Or is it that the x86 bios takes care of setting up the system and a corresponsing functionality has to be built into os4 exec directly since there is no firmware to provide it for the os?

If so, can this be layered in some way to keep such specifics away from exec and just let exec run on any ppc op-code compatible cpu while other lower level modules are needed to tie it to the specific cpu's?
tfrieden
Published: 2007/12/7 11:21  Updated: 2007/12/7 11:21
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@ orgin

Quote:
There's generally large differences between different ppc processors? In contrast to say x86 processors I mean. As there's usually no problems installing an old redhat linux on a todays x86 processor that wasn't even though of back when the distro was made.


That's not really comparable. Actually, the 60x/7xx/74xx are a different CPUs compare to the 440. The 440 uses a different MMU (Book E style). It's mainly aimed at being an embedded CPU, hence it has no hardware-loaded MMU table (not even hardware assisted like on the 603e), to eliminate the need for a large MMU table.

You can load 64 translation registers, if that's enough for your system, you don't need an MMU table.

The 64 bit implementations (970, Cell) have yet another MMU model (although they can use the 32 bit bridge to become compatible).

The different PowerPC cpu's have the same user-mode code, but in "kernel" mode, they differ (MMU handling, cache handling, CPU feature handling etc)

Quote:
Or is it that the x86 bios takes care of setting up the system and a corresponsing functionality has to be built into os4 exec directly since there is no firmware to provide it for the os?


The x86 cpu's are all desktop/server CPU's, they aren't meant for small-scale systems like the 440, therefore, all of them handle the MMU in the same way (don't know if there's a difference between AMD and Intel chips, though, but I suspect not).

Quote:
If so, can this be layered in some way to keep such specifics away from exec and just let exec run on any ppc op-code compatible cpu while other lower level modules are needed to tie it to the specific cpu's?


Actually, that's what the HAL is for. It's separated into machine and CPU (and a common) part. The machine part deals with machine specific issues, like PCI and interrupt controllers, and the CPU part deals mainly with MMU, caches and on-chip timers (and interrupt controller if it's on-chip).
orgin
Published: 2007/12/7 11:32  Updated: 2007/12/7 11:34
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@tfrieden

In short 'yes' to my first question then.

Quote:

Actually, that's what the HAL is for. It's separated into machine and CPU (and a common) part. The machine part deals with machine specific issues, like PCI and interrupt controllers, and the CPU part deals mainly with MMU, caches and on-chip timers (and interrupt controller if it's on-chip).


And os4 classic has that level of HAL layering (Ie the cpu specific parts) right now, making it at least in in theory possible to just replace those parts with something that uses the same api's? Or is all/part of it compiled into the same binary?( either by necessity or design)
tfrieden
Published: 2007/12/7 11:37  Updated: 2007/12/7 11:37
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Quote:
And os4 classic has that level of HAL layering (Ie the cpu specific parts) right now, making it at least in in theory possible to just replace those parts with something that uses the same api's? Or is all/part of it compiled into the same binary?( either by necessity or design)


It's compiled into the same binary. There are multiple reasons for this, mostly because it's easier that way and makes it a bit more efficient (some parts of the HAL are constants compiled into the standard code). Dynamically linking it would be possible, but isn't really necessary.
Outcast
Published: 2007/12/10 17:28  Updated: 2007/12/10 17:28
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
I love a cunning Plan !!

poweramiga
Published: 2007/12/10 23:33  Updated: 2007/12/10 23:33
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
now i regret selling my PPC card would have liked to see os4 running on classic HW
orgin
Published: 2007/12/18 7:16  Updated: 2007/12/18 7:16
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@tfrieden

Btw, would it not be possible to let a core components support a few if not all of the cpu types? Depending on cpu, different code gets executed and different sets of constants are used.
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