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Internet News : IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
Posted by orgin on 2007/4/15 19:59:55 (2130 reads) News by the same author

The swedish amiga site Safir recently conducted an IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden.

You can read a log on their website HERE


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Raziel
Published: 2007/4/15 20:42  Updated: 2007/4/15 20:42
Home away from home
Joined: 11/26/2006
From: a dying planet
Comments: 4194
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Thanks for that...OS4 CD around the corner
Dirk-B
Published: 2007/4/15 20:49  Updated: 2007/4/15 20:59
Just popping in
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: Belgium
Comments: 236
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Lots of good and interesting news-bits.

Oh, and i will gladly pay 100 euro for the OS4 box for
my earlybird system, sort of to support Hyperion.

And yes, i have already updated to the microA1-cd.

Thanks for the IRC Hans-J?rg.
Mason
Published: 2007/4/15 21:19  Updated: 2007/4/15 21:19
Illusionist
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Donauwörth / Germany
Comments: 507
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Thanks for the interview!
bean
Published: 2007/4/15 22:14  Updated: 2007/4/15 22:14
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/26/2006
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Comments: 402
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Quote:

S: Developers might be interested in this: We're also working on a new SDK right now. The final on the CD will include
support for loading UNIX-liked shared objects, and the SDK will be able to produce them (like a libpython.so)
(I finished libpython.so today BTW ) Python is a scripting language that can be incorporated into your own program.
For example, Blender uses it for scripting. The shared objects will be 100% like under Linux, meaning that most of the
time you can create them without editing a makefile.


Nice

I'm looking forward to the SDK most of all.

Cheers,
Bean.
bean
Published: 2007/4/15 22:18  Updated: 2007/4/15 22:18
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/26/2006
From:
Comments: 402
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Quote:
I played
WBsteroids on the mystery device


Lets hope it's not a mystery for much longer eh!
Troels
Published: 2007/4/15 22:34  Updated: 2007/4/15 22:36
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/30/2006
From:
Comments: 449
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
I thought the mystery device was revealed as the IBM PDA (reference design) a long time ago?

Apart from CD's with OS4.0 being close there's not much new stuff in this QA. But atleast it's a sign of life.
Chris
Published: 2007/4/15 23:17  Updated: 2007/4/15 23:17
Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: England
Comments: 3271
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@Rogue

Do we get to trade in our pre-release CDs for the proper CD in the big box with the manual?

Thanks for the interview.
Curty
Published: 2007/4/15 23:23  Updated: 2007/4/15 23:23
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From: South Wales, UK
Comments: 206
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Woo Hoo,
Cool news, its good to hear from Hans too.
I can wait to have a look at the new SDK also.
Helge
Published: 2007/4/15 23:30  Updated: 2007/4/15 23:30
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Joined: 12/15/2006
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Comments: 262
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@HJ & Thomas

Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions. Even if there were not any news about new hardwares, it was great to hear a sign of life again. It is even harder now for us because you have decided to post less on the forums. I can understand this.
So every news is very welcome!

Let's hope that Hyperion will soon make an agreement with Amiga Inc about the future of OS4! When that has happened, SAM can not be far away.
I still hope that SAM will be released for Christmas. Maybe I am unrealistic but I don't care! If peoples stop dreaming it's all over.
AmiKit
Published: 2007/4/15 23:33  Updated: 2007/4/15 23:33
Quite a regular
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Europe
Comments: 525
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Quote:
I still hope that SAM will be released for Christmas.

Whaaat? Christmas? I hope SAM will be released much sooner.
Rogue
Published: 2007/4/16 2:22  Updated: 2007/4/16 2:22
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 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@Chris

As I said, I am not really the right person to ask.

@bean

I hope developers will like the support for shared objects, it's going to make a few things easier, although I have to say that right now, there is one flaw in the design - the code is not really shared but loaded for each program separately (per process, so a module for Python that links against libpython.so will use the in-memory copy of the main program). In a future version, we will try to support real shared code, too.

Other than that, the shared objects work exactly like in UNIX (semantically they are identical). It means that this makes it way easier to use LGPL'ed code in non-GPL programs.
gregthecanuck
Published: 2007/4/16 3:58  Updated: 2007/4/16 3:58
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From: Vancouver, Canada
Comments: 192
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@Rogue

Thanks for all the work you are putting into the shared object support. Anything that makes the leverage of Linux code easier is a great move.

The new graphics engine you are thinking about sounds like a great idea as well.


Cheers!
Jack
Published: 2007/4/16 8:32  Updated: 2007/4/16 9:09
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Israel
Comments: 932
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

S: Developers might be interested in this: We're also working on a new SDK right now. The final on the CD will include
support for loading UNIX-liked shared objects, and the SDK will be able to produce them (like a libpython.so)



That's a major breaktrough, great work! Means mplayer could use external codecs form Linux for example (when recompiled propperly with new SDK)? [dream]If only Adobe released their flash plugin for ppc...slap[/dream]

Jack
Jack
Published: 2007/4/16 9:08  Updated: 2007/4/16 9:08
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From: Israel
Comments: 932
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
@orgin:

The topic should contain "with" and not "med" (too much copy-paste?)

Jack
saimo
Published: 2007/4/16 10:02  Updated: 2007/4/16 10:02
Quite a regular
Joined: 12/06/2006
From: Italy
Comments: 697
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
Thanks Rogue
I guess that getting the boxed thing for my Earlybird is the least I can do to support AOS4

saimo
AmigaPapst
Published: 2007/4/16 10:47  Updated: 2007/4/16 10:47
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Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Amigavatikan
Comments: 175
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
Thanks for the interview. Good news!
LiveForIt
Published: 2007/4/16 11:44  Updated: 2007/4/16 11:44
Home away from home
Joined: 11/20/2006
From: Norway
Comments: 2968
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@Rogue

Thanks for dropping by to make a few comments.
I can understand your frustration whit some individuals in the Amiga communities.

I support you all the way.
LiveForIt
Published: 2007/4/16 11:44  Updated: 2007/4/16 11:45
Home away from home
Joined: 11/20/2006
From: Norway
Comments: 2968
 Re: IRC session med Hans-Joerg Frieden
@Jack

Don?t think that imply that you can use Linux .so files automatically whit out recompiling, but it should make it easier to port larger Linux applications, that depends on shard .so files, sense porting .so files should be as easy as replacing some Linux dependent stuff (file IO/terminal IO/ device IO / fork() / clone() ) and recompile the so files.

Wring devices and library?s takes a lot of time, this should shorten the development process.
orgin
Published: 2007/4/16 11:59  Updated: 2007/4/16 11:59
Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3214
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
Yepp, c&p'd that. Seems someone has fixed it now though.
Mikey_C
Published: 2007/4/16 17:04  Updated: 2007/4/16 17:04
Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/19/2006
From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
Comments: 2103
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
it was your friendly neighbourhood Mikey C
afxgroup
Published: 2007/4/17 8:34  Updated: 2007/4/17 8:34
Amigans Defender
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Taranto, Italy
Comments: 968
 Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden
the MOST important thing now is the SDK with shared object support!!! Please do it soon!!!
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