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Software News : AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Posted by Rigo on 2011/12/23 4:09:33 (3191 reads) News by the same author

Yes, you heard it here first folks.

AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 is now available to download from http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/

From the website:
"Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce the immediate availability for download of Update 4 by registered users of AmigaOS 4.1 for all supported platforms.

Hyperion continues its tradition to provide regular free updates of AmigaOS 4.1 and with the festive season just days away, this is a particularly appropriate time for a free update."

Enjoy!


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gregthecanuck
Published: 2011/12/23 4:45  Updated: 2011/12/23 4:45
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Congratulations - looks like a very nice update.
amigadad
Published: 2011/12/23 4:54  Updated: 2011/12/23 4:54
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Downloaded, Installed & so far, running fine!

Thank you so much!

Will put usb to the test later.
Ricossa
Published: 2011/12/23 6:51  Updated: 2011/12/23 6:51
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
installed and... lost my wi-fi connection. Helpless...
Ricossa
Published: 2011/12/23 7:10  Updated: 2011/12/23 7:10
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
I could restore the connection copying the old bsdsocket.library from a back up. There is some problem with the new one, be careful !
MaximvsPayne
Published: 2011/12/23 7:49  Updated: 2011/12/23 7:49
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
argh,if i had enough money,a new amigaone500 would stand on my desk right now! these constant updates to amigaos make me wanna focus on os4 instead of aros!really nice to see.my vision gets clearer,someday i will leave my ubuntu-boxes behind me and then i will only use amigaos-systems like years before!congratulations to everyone involved!!!
tonyw
Published: 2011/12/23 7:52  Updated: 2011/12/23 7:54
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Sorry, made a mistake.
Chris
Published: 2011/12/23 8:29  Updated: 2011/12/23 8:29
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Nice! That's two updates I need to install when I get home, I'm going to be busy this evening.
Kicko
Published: 2011/12/23 9:08  Updated: 2011/12/23 9:08
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Boom Shakalack :)

Thanks... will check it out when coming home. Bestest xmas present. Hmm #OOPS# i have to go the the city first to buy some presents.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 9:13  Updated: 2011/12/23 18:49
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
I'm not sure why there is no direct link to the news item.

Anyway, here's a direct quote from it:
Quote:
The following new functionality and bug fixes are included in Update 4:

* Introducing the new Emulation drawer with official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs and Workbench files. AmigaOS ROMs are provided for all classic Amiga models and the CD32 platform.
* Added RunInUAE contribution to utilize the new Emulation drawer.
* New scsi.device patch for Classic installations which enables internal IDE drives to be used for memory paging (SWAP).
* Added NoDriveClick utility for Classic users.
* Added DefIcons support for RunInUAE.
* Updated TCP/IP stack with much improved DHCP support.
* Updated MUI with various fixes.
* Various Workbench fixes.
* Fixed several USB issues.
* Fixed elf.library that could cause programs using shared objects to misbehave when unloading (e.g. Timberwolf).


I'm personally very happy to finally see Update 4 released, not least because it now means that RunInUAE can 'automagically' get all the necessary emulation files from AmigaOS4 itself
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 9:23  Updated: 2011/12/23 9:23
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Do we have to have a clean install of update 3 first?
Or can I just bang 4 on?
"Added RunInUAE" functionality.
Does it mean I have to remove the one I have installed at the moment?

Thanks!

And cool news!
Jurassicc
Published: 2011/12/23 9:31  Updated: 2011/12/23 9:31
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
* New scsi.device patch for Classic installations which enables SCSI drives to be used for memory paging (SWAP).

This is for Internal IDE drives hosted off the native controller, using scsi.device.

The new kicklayout adds the line

Module Kickstart/A1200/scsi.device_ppc.kmod to your kicklayout-A1200

and for A4000's

Module Kickstart/A4000/scsi.device_ppc.kmod to your kicklayout-A4000

Module Kickstart/A4000T/scsi.device_ppc.kmod to your kicklayout-A4000T
Jurassicc
Published: 2011/12/23 9:33  Updated: 2011/12/23 9:34
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
You need update to add 2, 3 then 4 in that order.
You can't go straight from 1 to 4 or 2 to 4 for example.

AS for runinuae, that would best be answered by ChrisH, but it does have an uninstaller as part of the archive.
samo79
Published: 2011/12/23 9:49  Updated: 2011/12/23 9:49
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@ChrisY

And after installing don't forget to try NetSurf
After Tantignone's fixes all part of the interface is now rendered perfectly !
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 9:50  Updated: 2011/12/23 10:37
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@TheDaddy Quote:
"Added RunInUAE" functionality.
Does it mean I have to remove the one I have installed at the moment?

You SHOULD be able to just install "over the top" of any existing RunInUAE, just like you could with previous releases.

NOTE: If you *previously* chose to create a Fake Workbench, and when reinstalling RunInUAE you choose to "reuse all your previous installation choices", then you will still have a Fake Workbench.

P.S. I do NOT recommend using the new UNinstaller with older versions of RunInUAE (it may work but I haven't tested it).
JTKirk
Published: 2011/12/23 10:21  Updated: 2011/12/23 10:21
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Nice XMas present, will try at night.
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 11:17  Updated: 2011/12/23 11:27
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Chris,

It asked do you want to install RunInUae, I said yes, now I get:

"It looks like RunInUAE is already installed. Do you want to reuse all your previous installation choices?"

Shall I select Yes?



@Samo

I didn't know about netsurf! I'll give it a go, is it better than OWB-MUI?
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 11:47  Updated: 2011/12/23 11:47
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@TheDaddy Quote:
"It looks like RunInUAE is already installed. Do you want to reuse all your previous installation choices?"

Shall I select Yes?

That's up to you

As I tried to explain in my last post: The only downside (that I can think) of choosing "Yes" is that it won't replace your Fake Workbench3.1 with a real one (if you chose to create a Fake Workbench with the previous version of RunInUAE). If the use of a Fake Workbench3.1 did not cause a problem for you, then why not keep it? You can always reinstall RunInUAE later if you want.
Chris
Published: 2011/12/23 11:57  Updated: 2011/12/23 11:58
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@TheDaddy
Quote:
I didn't know about netsurf!


I obviously haven't been promoting it enough!
Look here => http://www.netsurf-browser.org

There's a v2.9 due soonish.
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 12:32  Updated: 2011/12/23 12:33
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Thanks Chris.

I clicked Yes to everything and rebooted.

I have updated to Update 4. Yes!

Double clicked on Pang.adf and my monitor gave me an out of range error. Before I used to get a small screen (with the game running in it) surronded by white.

Has the resolution changed?!
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 12:39  Updated: 2011/12/23 12:41
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Downloading and testing NetSurf!

Font seems tiny...apart from that looking good!

It did ask to replace a library (libpng?) I said yes. Feels fast.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 12:59  Updated: 2011/12/23 14:17
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@TheDaddy Quote:
Before I used to get a small screen (with the game running in it) surronded by white.

That was a bug, caused by either the required screen resolutions not being added, or else them being ignored since Update 3.

Quote:
my monitor gave me an out of range error

Then you have not told AmigaOS4 the correct specification of your monitor (i.e. the allowed horizontal & vertical rates). You can do that from Sys:Prefs/ScreenMode in the Monitors tab.

EDIT: I have updated RunInUAE's (on-line) manual with better instructions on how to do this:
http://cshandley.co.uk/runinuae/#6_1


Or alternatively you can enable "Detect settings automatically" (also in the Monitors tab). But BEFORE YOU DO THAT, make sure that you Remove (not just untick!) the 320x240 & 320x256 resolutions from the list. After doing all that, click "Save Monitor". And then reinstall RunInUAE (using your existing settings). EDIT: As this has a small chance to cause problems with booting, please make sure you have a backup way to boot OS4, such as a CD or backup partition.

OR ALTERNATIVELY, if you have a fast enough machine (not Sam440s if you can help it), you can just tell RunInUAE to use a 640x480 screenmode. Open RunInUAE, click on it's window, and from the menu choose "Settings > Set default screen size to > 640x480".
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 13:26  Updated: 2011/12/23 13:26
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@ChrisH

>>Then you have not told AmigaOS4 the correct specification of your monitor (i.e. the allowed horizontal & vertical rates). You can do that from Sys:Prefs/ScreenMode in the Monitors tab.

Or alternatively you can enable "Detect settings automatically" (also in the Monitors tab). But BEFORE YOU DO THAT, make sure that you Remove (not just untick!) the 320x240 & 320x256 resolutions from the list. After doing all that, click "Save Monitor". And then reinstall RunInUAE (using your existing settings).



Done that, removed the 320 resolutions and set to automatically detect, saved and it asked to reboot, I get no display now

I can tell that the SAM has booted into Workbench but there is no display, just a black screen.
FrankBrana
Published: 2011/12/23 13:43  Updated: 2011/12/23 14:01
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Yet another release for the classic amigas without BPPC SCSI support.Smart move (once again)

Mmm i almost got wet on my pants while dreaming on the lighting speed of my 1200´s IDE doing system mem swapping.

C´mon Hyperion. OS4 on classics, evidently, only runs on ppc machines, which its 80% are 1200 ppc and a good number of those got a nice fast scsi 2 interface on board.

Release a driver for it now.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 13:49  Updated: 2011/12/23 14:19
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@TheDaddy Quote:
I can tell that the SAM has booted into Workbench but there is no display, just a black screen.

Yikes . That sounds like an AmigaOS4 or Sam460-specific bug in detecting the correct monitor range. Is your monitor connected directly to your Amiga? What graphics card do you use?

You will have to boot from another OS4 partition (if you have a backup one), or else an OS4 CD (or whatever Sam460s come with). Then go to your main OS4 partition, open the Devs/Monitors folder, click on the icon for your graphics, and use the "Icons > Information..." menu. This should open a new window. Go to it's Icon tab, find the DDCMODE tooltype line, and put rounded brackets around it. So you should get something like (DDCMODE=ALL) . Save that, then try booting OS4 normally.


EDIT: If you don't have an easy way to boot OS4, then you COULD try a different monitor.

EDIT: If you don't have an easy way to boot OS4, then you can try this possible solution. It will only work if you use SFS and not FFS for your boot partition. Start AmigaOS4 without any Startup-Sequence (hold down both mouse buttons just before the OS4 boot logo would appear, to get a grey boot screen with that option). Then type the following command:

List Devs:Monitors

This should show what your graphics card is called, typically "Radeon SOMETHING". Using that name, type the following command exactly:

Copy "Sys:.recycled/Radeon SOMETHING.info" TO Devs:Monitors

If there were no errors, then it hopefully worked, and you can try rebooting.
djrikki
Published: 2011/12/23 16:35  Updated: 2011/12/23 16:35
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
AAMP in Update 4:

Refer to this script:

Wait SECS=1

If NOT {SILENT}
If ${AAMP/LANG} EQ "de"
RequestChoice >NIL: TYPE INFO "Start_AAMP.bat" "MySQL und Apache Webserver gestartet (native Versionen)*n*nServer können mit dem Skript *"Stop_AAMP.bat*" gestoppt werden." "OK"
Else
RequestChoice >NIL: TYPE INFO "Start_AAMP.bat" "Launched MySQL and Apache web server (native versions)*n*nStop servers with script *"Stop_AAMP.bat*"." "OK"
EndIf
EndIf

This code executes for some reason now in Start_AAMP.bat, well not only once, but twice. Previously it never showed at all in Update 3. I've change Wait to 3 seconds, hope that will remove the problem on next reboot.
djrikki
Published: 2011/12/23 16:36  Updated: 2011/12/23 16:36
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Oh yeah and where are the pretty icons when I right-click on the Workbench?
kas1e
Published: 2011/12/23 16:52  Updated: 2011/12/23 16:52
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@djrikky
Quote:

Oh yeah and where are the pretty icons when I right-click on the Workbench?


They in aos4.2 :)
djrikki
Published: 2011/12/23 16:56  Updated: 2011/12/23 16:56
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Well thats not good enough!

Stephen Jones and that french Alchemie event having been posting videos showing these in Update 4!
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 17:02  Updated: 2011/12/23 17:34
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
I have a SAM440ep.

Did the boot without startup sequence but I get:

cannot open .recycled/Radeon M9.info



I have managed to boot from my OS4.1 CD...
I can see AmigaOS, went into AmigaOS:Devs/Monitors/Radeon M9, clicked on icon.
Stack 32768
Start From Workbench
Prompt for input ticked
then
CMPLENGTH=9
BOARDNAME=RADEON M9
VSYNCMIN=60
VSYNCMAX=70
HSYNCMIN=31000
HSYNCMAX=70000
MODE=640x480@60
all the way up to 1980x1080@60

FAKENATIVEMODES=No
INTERRUPT=Yes

HELP!
Chris
Published: 2011/12/23 17:47  Updated: 2011/12/23 17:47
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@TheDaddy

Hmm... I'm sure I replied to this already. Oh well, attempt 2.

Quote:
Downloading and testing NetSurf!

Font seems tiny...apart from that looking good!


In Preferences, Rendering tab, you need to set the DPI value (calculated as height of your monitor in inches, divided by vertical number of pixels).

If that doesn't solve it, you can increase the minimum and default font heights on the Fonts tab.
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 17:52  Updated: 2011/12/23 17:52
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Thanks Chris, I'll try that but at the moment I can't boot in OS4.1upd4 any more I just get a black screen...argh!
samo79
Published: 2011/12/23 17:57  Updated: 2011/12/23 17:57
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Thumbnails support was removed ??
They worked in Update 3 :-/
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 18:05  Updated: 2011/12/23 18:05
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
I could tell you but my SAM is out of action.
I can't see jack! Just a black screen, but I know that Workbench is running, just not displaying.
samo79
Published: 2011/12/23 18:14  Updated: 2011/12/23 18:14
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Do you have a Sam440 or a 460 ?
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 18:37  Updated: 2011/12/23 20:29
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@TheDaddy Quote:
went into AmigaOS:Devs/Monitors/Radeon M9, clicked on icon.
Stack 32768
Start From Workbench
Prompt for input ticked
then
CMPLENGTH=9
BOARDNAME=RADEON M9
VSYNCMIN=60
VSYNCMAX=70
HSYNCMIN=31000
HSYNCMAX=70000
MODE=640x480@60
all the way up to 1980x1080@60

FAKENATIVEMODES=No
INTERRUPT=Yes

Hmmm, that does NOT make sense. It should have a DDCMODE line somewhere (usually near the top), if you enabled "Detect settings automatically". Otherwise I do not know why you are getting no video output.

Are you sure you didn't DISABLE (untick) "Detect settings automatically"??? That would explain everything! In that case please add the line "DDCMODE=ALL" (without quotes!) under the first two lines.


Otherwise, perhaps you can post your problem (with FULL details of the changes you made) on Hyperion's forum, to get more expert help.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/23 18:42  Updated: 2011/12/23 18:42
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@djrikki Quote:
If NOT {SILENT}

That script is buggy, as it is relying on unintended & UNdocumented behaviour (which I believe has now changed). It should be:
If "{SILENT}" EQ ""

Or possibly this, since I'm not sure how the illegal code used to behave:
If "{SILENT}" NOT EQ ""
Templario
Published: 2011/12/23 19:14  Updated: 2011/12/23 19:14
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Fantastic Christmas grif from Hyperion, thanks guys!
Although the sound driver for Sam460 is missing still?
Coder
Published: 2011/12/23 20:02  Updated: 2011/12/23 20:02
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Quote:
* Introducing the new Emulation drawer with official AmigaOS 3.x ROMs and Workbench files. AmigaOS ROMs are provided for all classic Amiga models and the CD32 platform. * Added RunInUAE contribution to utilize the new Emulation drawer.


Hear hear.

Coder
davebraco
Published: 2011/12/23 20:49  Updated: 2011/12/23 20:49
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@djrikki

No, they did'nt show update 4 but the current beta version of AmigaOS 4.x on the X1000.

AmigaOne X1000 will be shipped with OS4.2 which will introduce new features. (...such as these icons in the menu)
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 20:51  Updated: 2011/12/23 20:51
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
OK I can't get the OS to work again so I am reinstalling from OS4.1 CD allthe way to upd4.

Question:

My monitor is connected via DVI-HDMI cable (DVI on the SAM440 to HDMI on the back of the monitor).
And it's been working fine.
Now I am reinstalling OS4.1 and it's asking me to put the frequencies in.
Horizontal and Vertical.
I have checked the manufacturer's website and it says:

Horizontal Frequency (Max) KHz VGA/HDMI: 15kHz ~ 83 DVI-DL: 30 ~ 140

Vertical Frequency (Max)Hz VGA / HDMI: 24Hz ~ 120 DVI-DL: 56 ~ 120

What do I put in Min Horiz Max Horiz and Min Vert and Max Vertical?

15000 and 83000?
and
24000 and 120000?

Any help appreciated.
redfox
Published: 2011/12/23 21:20  Updated: 2011/12/23 21:29
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Installed update 4. The only strange thing I have noticed is with MUI version of OWB ... when I log into this website, I cannot post, unless I click "Rember Me" during login. If I do not click "Remember Me" I do not see any reply buttons or Post Comment buttons.

Going back to some other sites to see if it is the same there.

OK same thing at amiga.org but no problems at amigaworld.net

I guess I haven't used MUI-OWB for awhile.

---
redfox
kas1e
Published: 2011/12/23 21:38  Updated: 2011/12/23 21:38
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@redfox
Quote:

Installed update 4. The only strange thing I have noticed is with MUI version of OWB ... when I log into this website, I cannot post, unless I click "Rember Me" during login. If I do not click "Remember Me" I do not see any reply buttons or Post Comment buttons.


I have the same problems with Crhome/FF on winxp, on amigans.net, and sometime does not matter if i tick remember me, or anything else, its just didn't log me, and i should restart browser for making it works.
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 22:30  Updated: 2011/12/23 22:34
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
OK I have re-installed everything from scratch. Thank goodness it doesn't take long.

From OS4.1, upd1, upd2, upd3 and 4.

I tried running Pang.adf again and it says Out of Range...so I have changed both settings in UAE to 640 and it displays now but it fills the whole screen stretching the graphics (blocky)...
328gts
Published: 2011/12/23 22:32  Updated: 2011/12/23 22:32
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
....shhh did I hear a Timberwolf howling
Chris
Published: 2011/12/23 22:34  Updated: 2011/12/23 22:36
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
@TheDaddy

I think those values are correct, bit weird notation in the specs though.

For the lower resolutions you might need to add a D. This is what I was advised to do when those sort of modes stopped working after Update 3.

eg. in my tooltypes for Devs:Monitors/Radeon M9 are:
MODE=320x240@75D
MODE=400x300@65D
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/23 22:37  Updated: 2011/12/23 22:37
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@Chris

Do you mean the monitor ones?

I think the vertical should be 24 and 120 and not 24000 and 120000 am I correct in thinking that it's Vertical Hz we are talking about and not KHz?

The horizontal I have put 15000 and 83000.

Is it correct?
Antique
Published: 2011/12/23 23:11  Updated: 2011/12/23 23:11
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Nice one. Will install these next week i hope.
JTKirk
Published: 2011/12/23 23:18  Updated: 2011/12/23 23:18
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
Just installed. All perfect. Thanks.
Jurassicc
Published: 2011/12/24 0:21  Updated: 2011/12/24 0:22
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
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Poster: djrikki Posted: 2011/12/23 18:56:19

Well thats not good enough!

Stephen Jones and that french Alchemie event having been posting videos showing these in Update 4!


No, they have been showing beta versions of the OS and it was the version of version.library in use which makes workbench report OS 4.1Update 4
Chris
Published: 2011/12/24 0:27  Updated: 2011/12/24 0:27
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@TheDaddy

They are all in Hz I believe, so yes, vertical max should be 120 not 120000 :)
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Published: 2011/12/24 3:37  Updated: 2011/12/24 3:37
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Thanks ChrisH, I'll give that a go.

The only thing I worry is that Timberwolf will require hardware composition and the Radeon HD drivers have still yet to be released publicly.

I don't wanna be in the situation were everyone else is running TW just fine and I cannot.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/24 9:32  Updated: 2011/12/24 9:32
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@TheDaddy Quote:
OK I can't get the OS to work again so I am reinstalling from OS4.1 CD allthe way to upd4.

Can you please confirm that you tried adding DDCMODE=ALL in the tooltypes?
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Published: 2011/12/24 9:34  Updated: 2011/12/24 9:34
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@TheDaddy Quote:
it says Out of Range...so I have changed both settings in UAE to 640 and it displays now but it fills the whole screen stretching the graphics (blocky)...

What do you mean "both settings in UAE"? Did you use RunInUAE's menu "Settings > Set default screensize to > 640x480"? Please don't edit the config files directly!
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Published: 2011/12/24 9:34  Updated: 2011/12/24 10:21
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@Chris Quote:
For the lower resolutions you might need to add a D. This is what I was advised to do when those sort of modes stopped working after Update 3.

RunInUAE r6 already does this.
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@ChrisH

I have reinstalled everything from scratch; OS4 CD through ups1, 2, 3 and 4.

This is what it says in Devs/Monitor/Radeon M9

CMPLENGTH=9
BOARDTYPE=Radeon M9
(DDCMODE=ALL)
VSYNCMIN=24
VSYNCMAX=120
HSYNCMIN=15000
HSYNCMAX=83000
MODE=640x480@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=800x600@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=1024x768@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=1920x1080@60+RB
(FAKENATIVEMODES=Yes)
INTERRUPT=Yes
MODE=320x240@60D
MODE=320x256@60D
TheDaddy
Published: 2011/12/24 20:00  Updated: 2011/12/24 20:00
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>>What do you mean "both settings in UAE"? Did you use RunInUAE's menu "Settings > Set default screensize to > 640x480"? Please don't edit the config files directly! Please don't edit the config files directly! files directly!

In RunInUAE (running on its own) Settings/Set Default Screen size to. What should it be?
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/25 8:42  Updated: 2011/12/25 8:42
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@TheDaddy Quote:
I have reinstalled everything from scratch; OS4 CD through ups1, 2, 3 and 4.

I take it that means you did NOT try adding DDCMODE=ALL (before reinstalling)? So we will never know whether or not your problem was caused by accidentally DISabling "Detect settings automatically"
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I think it was the Disabling Detect Settings Automatically but I could be wrong.

I did both at the same time so I guess we won't know.

I can manage to run RunInUAE now but only at 640 and it fills the screen (stretches it, so the graphics look blocky).

Sorry

Happy Christmas by the way!
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Everything is running fine in RuninUAE, I don't get the small screen in the centre surrounded by white as I used to before update 4. Was that 320 or a well displayed 640?

Now I can only run in 640 which fills my 24" screen and stretches the graphics...if I try 320 I get an out of range from my monitor...ARGH!

Anyone?
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/26 10:46  Updated: 2011/12/26 10:46
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@TheDaddy
RunInUAE is *supposed* to be full-screen! i.e. like a real Amiga

However, if you really wish to reinstate the unintended old behaviour (i.e. 50% shrunk), then you need to disable the new 320x... resolutions added by RunInUAE, reboot, and then tell RunInUAE to use 320x256. (Since no 320x256 resolution will be available, E-UAE will pick the smallest available resolution, typically 640x480, thus 320x256 will take-up half the 640x480 screen.)

The simplest way to disable the new 320x... resolutions is to start Sys:Prefs/ScreenMode, go to the Monitor tab, untick those resolutions, and then click Save Monitor. If you find that the "Manual settings" are greyed-out (so you cannot untick them), then you will need to *temporarily* untick "Detect settings automatically" (i.e. tick it again before clicking Save Monitor).
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Hi Chris,
I want it to run in full screen and it does but only for 640x480 but it's all stretched so the graphics look blocky is this normal?

The 320 resolutions don't work at all.

If I try running the 320 resolutions I get an Out Of Frequency from the monitor...

How can I run the 320 resolutions? And how can I run the 640 resolutions without making the graphics look blocky?

Have you tried it? Do you get blocky graphics at 640?

This is my Radeon M9 in Devs/Monitors

CMPLENGTH=9
BOARDNAME=Radeon M9
VSYNCMIN=24
VSYNCMAX=120
HSYNCMIN=15000
HSYNCMAX=83000
MODE=640x480@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=800x600@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=1024x768@60
MODE=1280x720@60
MODE=1920x1080@60+RB
MODE=1920x1080@120+RB
MODE=320x240@60
MODE=320x256@60
FAKENATIVEMODES=No
INTERRUPT=Yes

Anything I can do to let the monitor display 320 res?
Thanks
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/26 13:58  Updated: 2011/12/26 20:22
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@TheDaddy
As previously discussed, "Out of Frequency" type error messages from your monitor (for 320x... resolutions) mean that AmigaOS4 doesn't know the correct horizontal/vertical frequency range supported by your monitor. I have updated my (online) documentation regarding this:
http://cshandley.co.uk/runinuae/#6_1

Quote:
for 640x480 but it's all stretched so the graphics look blocky is this normal?

As I don't know what your display looks like, it is hard to say. But it *is* normal that showing an (emulated) 320x.... will look more blocky on LCD than you may remember a real Amiga looking on a CRT monitor or TV. This issue is discussed more in RunInUAE's manual here:
http://cshandley.co.uk/runinuae/#6_14
and
http://cshandley.co.uk/runinuae/#6_15

Please note that when you are using a WIDESCREEN monitor, *if* it is stretching 640x480 (etc) to the full width of your screen, then it will *of course* look stretched. I bought a non-widescreen monitor to avoid all such issues, so it is difficult for me to advise on how to avoid this. I *believe* that this problem will not happen if you use "Detect settings automatically" (but please carefully read http://cshandley.co.uk/runinuae/#6_1 ).

If you can't use "Detect settings automatically", then one idea I have is: Replace your 640x480 resolution with one that is not stretched by your widescreen monitor (i.e. it's aspect ratio is correct). For example, if your LCD monitor's native resolution is 1920x1080, then instead of 640 you should use 480*1920/1080 = 853, thus you should disable 640x480 (and possibly 800x600) and create an 853x480 resolution. E-UAE *should* then use this, without unnaturally stretching the display.

Quote:
MODE=320x240@60
MODE=320x256@60

BTW, these are WRONG, and should NOT have been added by RunInUAE. They are missing a "D" on the end, and so should look like this:
Quote:
MODE=320x240@60D
MODE=320x256@60D

I wonder if Sys:Prefs/ScreenMode doesn't support "D", and so removed them?
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Published: 2011/12/26 16:44  Updated: 2011/12/26 16:53
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Chris,

This is the monitor and these are its specs:

BenQ XL2410T
Screen Size 24" Wide LED-backlight
Resolution (max.) 1920 x 1080

Response Time (tr/tf) 2 ms (GtG)

Display Color 16.7 million

Terminals D-sub / DVI-D-DL/ HDMI / headphone jack
Horizontal Frequency (Max) KHz VGA/HDMI: 15kHz ~ 83
DVI-DL: 30 ~ 140
Vertical Frequency (Max)Hz VGA / HDMI: 24Hz ~ 120
DVI-DL: 56 ~ 120
Video Bandwidth (MHz) 330

From what I can see it should be able to display low resolutions.

The blockyness is present at 640 as 320 won't display.

This is what is present in ScreenMode preferences after selecting Radeon M9 Monitors:
640x480@60
1280x720@60
800x600@60
1024x768@60
1280x720@60
1920x1080@60+RB
1920x1080@120+RB
320x240@60
320x256@60
Enable Interrupts ticked
Refresh Rates:
Minimum VSync 50
Maximum VSync 120
Minimum HSync 28000
Maximum HSync 83000
For all of the above.

But if I click on Available Modes (always in ScreenMode preferences) only the 320x256 is present, no 320x240 and the 320x256 reports Horizontal frequency 15.70KHz but vertical 59Hz.
ChrisH
Published: 2011/12/26 20:36  Updated: 2011/12/26 20:36
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 Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 available now
This is a bit late, but I am continuing RunInUAE discussions in a separate thread, rather than fill the Update 4 one with more rubbish:
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum ... t_id=67924#forumpost67924
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