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Internet News : Twenty-Five Years of Development
Posted by Rogue on 2010/8/4 20:07:58 (2827 reads) News by the same author
Internet News

As a celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Amiga computer, Hyperion Entertainment has made a video using the Gource CVS visualization software showing a time-compressed version of 25 years of Amiga development, from the early days of AmigaOS 1.0 to the present. Personal commentary added by one of the current core full-time AmigaOS developers, Hans-Joerg Frieden (a.k.a. "Rogue")

Read all about it on Hyperion Entertainment


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MaximvsPayne
Published: 2010/8/4 20:10  Updated: 2010/8/4 20:10
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/media/video/eLAP_AmigaOS.mpg <-really interesting, there was an handheld-version of amigaos4!!! but look for yourself, how cool is this
sundown
Published: 2010/8/4 21:38  Updated: 2010/8/4 21:38
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@Rogue

Cool video, I enjoyed it, thanks.
Daniel
Published: 2010/8/4 22:37  Updated: 2010/8/4 22:37
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Cool video, where did all the information come from? Amazing.

Would make a great screenblanker!

Spotted a typo though, apparently Eyetech released an "AmigaOS G3SE", surely should read "AmigaOne G3SE" .
Rigo
Published: 2010/8/4 22:54  Updated: 2010/8/4 22:54
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@Daniel

Gource uses the logs from a CVS server (amongst others) to produce the visualisations.

So it appears that AmigaOS 4.1 really is the natural successor after all. Who'd have thought it :)

Simon
TSK
Published: 2010/8/5 0:26  Updated: 2010/8/5 0:26
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@Rigo
Quote:
So it appears that AmigaOS 4.1 really is the natural successor after all. Who'd have thought it :)

Indeed !
ssolie
Published: 2010/8/5 4:26  Updated: 2010/8/5 4:26
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From: Canada
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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So it appears that AmigaOS 4.1 really is the natural successor after all. Who'd have thought it :)

You name-following troll you.
kas1e
Published: 2010/8/5 8:12  Updated: 2010/8/5 8:12
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Really interesting video. Everything starts by 3 programmers , and as i can detect in latest seconds of video, looks like about 20 active developers works on aos4 in Hyperion for now. That not bad.

At video we also can see, who works mostly on which parts, so, Ssolie, it's you works on Locale/Keymaps support ?:)
DAX
Published: 2010/8/5 13:08  Updated: 2010/8/5 13:08
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
There are still unsuspecting customers buying Amiga Forever and believing Death Bed Vigil is some what the last episode of the Amiga Saga.

I suggest you allow Cloanto to include this video on the next release so that they may know AmigaOS was and still IS an on-going development that never stopped once since the early days!
cha05e90
Published: 2010/8/5 13:57  Updated: 2010/8/5 13:57
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Fantastic video - perfect nerd stuff! I really enjoined that "floating" Olafs and Colins - and the Python explosion - great!
Kicko
Published: 2010/8/5 14:45  Updated: 2010/8/5 14:45
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
downloading both videos. will take me 2 hours with mobilespeed :) Will check them out later. thanks
TSK
Published: 2010/8/5 15:22  Updated: 2010/8/5 15:22
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@Rogue
Thank you ! Really interesting !

Btw. What's that "win32" on top left corner in mid-2004 ? Or did I see wrong ? *eeeek* (Do I dare even ask...)
cha05e90
Published: 2010/8/5 15:28  Updated: 2010/8/5 15:28
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@TSK

OMG!
ssolie
Published: 2010/8/5 16:19  Updated: 2010/8/5 16:19
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Quote:
...Ssolie, it's you works on Locale/Keymaps support

Hmmm... I think that was me cleaning up the build system versus contributing any functionality.
ssolie
Published: 2010/8/5 16:21  Updated: 2010/8/5 16:21
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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What's that "win32" on top left corner in mid-2004 ?

Could it be related to some kind of x86 port?

Kidding! I have no idea what that is.
mechanic
Published: 2010/8/5 17:32  Updated: 2010/8/5 17:32
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Nice.
Published: 2010/8/5 21:46  Updated: 2010/8/5 21:46
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Well, can I be a bit disapointed?

Nice Mind/Development Map, but I expected
some pictures, music and audio commentary at least
tboeckel
Published: 2010/8/6 6:48  Updated: 2010/8/6 6:48
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@TSK
What's that "win32" on top left corner in mid-2004 ?


That was due to the checkin of freetype2. It contains several empty directories. Even stuff like atari or os2 being among them.
Rogue
Published: 2010/8/6 15:44  Updated: 2010/8/6 15:45
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Quote:
What's that "win32" on top left corner in mid-2004


EDIT: Tool slow :)
ssolie
Published: 2010/8/6 18:36  Updated: 2010/8/6 18:36
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
It seems Slashdot has picked up the story as well now.

Some interesting keywords attached to it: amiga, idle, os, foreveryoung, deadhorse, story
Daniel
Published: 2010/8/6 18:40  Updated: 2010/8/6 18:41
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@Rogue

Would be cool to see a more polished version, higher res with some pictures and maybe music from Susumu Hirasawa, on the OS4.2 CD perhaps?
TrevorDick
Published: 2010/8/6 19:57  Updated: 2010/8/6 19:57
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Now that Hyperion have full control of AmigaOS who knows what might be developed in the future?

Exciting times indeed!

TrevorD
Cap
Published: 2010/8/6 20:03  Updated: 2010/8/6 20:03
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
And now the end is near.

Oh no its probably just an update on their site as i cannot
access it at the mo.
Rogue
Published: 2010/8/7 0:17  Updated: 2010/8/7 0:17
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Website seems to be rather slow at the moment, I don't know why. I'll check.

EDIT: Seems to be working again
gregthecanuck
Published: 2010/8/7 7:00  Updated: 2010/8/7 7:00
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Quote:
Website seems to be rather slow at the moment, I don't know why. I'll check.

Probably a D.O.S. attack from Morpos-powered army of Efika mainframes.

I'm just kidding, it's a joke. Or is it?
cha05e90
Published: 2010/8/7 8:28  Updated: 2010/8/7 8:28
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@gregthecanuck

...it's the famous "AmigaHeretic"-effect...

salass00
Published: 2010/8/7 10:16  Updated: 2010/8/7 10:16
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Quote:
Probably a D.O.S. attack from Morpos-powered army of Efika mainframes.


More likely because someone went and posted this news on slashdot...
Antique
Published: 2010/8/8 11:29  Updated: 2010/8/8 11:29
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Nice video.
Minuous
Published: 2010/8/10 10:45  Updated: 2010/8/10 10:45
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
This seems to require some kind of plugin. Why force this upon your users? It should be distributed as an ordinary IFF ANIM, MPEG or AVI file.
Rigo
Published: 2010/8/10 13:15  Updated: 2010/8/10 13:15
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
The first two files are high quality versions, while the last 3 are MPEG versions at lower quality.

Simon
tfrieden
Published: 2010/8/11 10:26  Updated: 2010/8/11 10:26
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Quote:
This seems to require some kind of plugin. Why force this upon your users?


So, what's wrong with the download links that lets you download the videos as MPEG files ?
KimmoK
Published: 2010/8/11 11:10  Updated: 2010/8/11 11:11
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
"Now that Hyperion have full control of AmigaOS who knows what might be developed in the future?"

I would like to see some rough roadmap!
I think it would be good PR to see what the developers have in mind.
Also I would like more visible/open interface for users&application developers to give their ideas and influence to OS development.

Also, it would be nice to see some Hyperion actions to try to bring the community together & developers working together, across all Amigalike flavors.

Are we going to get some official AOS4 web site this year?
Troels
Published: 2010/8/11 11:41  Updated: 2010/8/11 11:41
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
@Kimmo
Good questions, I would like to see a roadmap aswell. Or instead of a roadmap we could call it a list of prioryties.

I am aware that no timeline can be given but it would be nice to know what is being worked on and what is going to be worked on in the future.

Perhaps you could ask Hyperion for a statement regarding future plans for AmigaOS?
kas1e
Published: 2010/8/12 8:15  Updated: 2010/8/12 8:16
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@Troels
I fear that after "priorites" list, some of us will left aos4 at all :) For me, for example, top priority it's new graphics subsystem , with fast 3d. If that not in high priority, then for me better do not know that :)

We can ask Hyperion about priorites and future plans, but by some strange reassons they never answer normally on that kind of questions. I think not the last reasson for that, is that ppls will bashing any kind of priorities, because someone think that one should be first, other one think that other think should be first, and in end some amiga-heretic-kind flame :)

@Minuous
Stop be retro :) Who in clear mind today will use IFF-ANIM ? Only aos3 geeks :)
Minuous
Published: 2010/8/19 18:27  Updated: 2010/8/19 18:27
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 Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
I don't see why IFF ANIM support is an OS3 issue. Don't tell me OS4.1 can't play IFF ANIMs!?

AFAIK Hyperion never had OS3.5/3.9 sources? So the animation must presumably be missing those changes to the source tree. Hyperion should have mentioned this instead of just glossing over it.
kas1e
Published: 2010/8/20 8:06  Updated: 2010/8/20 8:09
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@Minuos
Of course aos4 can play any formats and iff anims too. I just say, that making iff anims today, its retro and only aos3 lunatics can say "plz give us iff anims". Everythere avi, mpeg, youtube and any other normal and modern standart today, so asking for iff anim, it's retro and funny.
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