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Re: OS4 TV software
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@CountRaven

Very unlikely I'm afraid. I've never seen that chipset nor tried to implement any software for it. Just the Bt8x8 and Conexant CX2388x chipsets work with AmiTV.

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just got a PCI Kworld TV Card

on chipset it is written:

SAA7134HL TSG08231

Any hopes for it to work with AmiTV?

I am actually thinking to test it on my Peg2 under 4.1

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@Spirantho

Just to let you know I successfully tested version 0.14 on my A1XEG4/OS4.1 with an Happauge card.
Reference is :
Hauppauge.com
PAL
/SECAM
38066 rev B 509


On the Conexant chip it's written :
CONEXANT
FUSION 878A
25878
-13
E 64665.1
0033 KOREA

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Ok, next card i have tested was :
Pinnacle Systems miroVideo PCTV BT848

Same result as the previous card with BT878.

Occasional crashes in the OS, input keeps playing.

Just had not to scan for a video-input with the 848 card.

AmiTV 0.14

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@Spirantho

Seemed to exist 2 design of the cards, see the end of the post here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/237982

I'm using both the `old' Terratec Cinergy HT PCI produced Q1/2007 (based on SAA713x) and this newer one of Q1/2009 (based on XC3028).

Hum... not seen first on the post the MKII point.

I just have a problem with my tv-card:
Terratec Cinergy HT PCI MKII

lspci:
05:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
05:02.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)
05:02.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)


BTW, Spirantho some deep and personnal questions:

- What have you planned with playing with TV cards for aos4.x (Possibilities are: analogic and DVB-T software, FM receiver program, IRD controler and even capture input with COMP and SVGA,... ???

- Have you got the skill about TV cards software and drivers and free time for working on TV cards drivers (remember that I have just a SAM) ???

- Do you have planned to support next DVB-T HD or other chipsets in the futur (based on the availability of the technical documents).


NOTE: you could explore some of the links I have posted before. Maybe the linux forums coul give you technical explanations on how work the differents chipsets....


On my side, I will maybe baught a TV card and try to help you (I'm not a TV fan but like testing things for the amiga and actually seen what exist actually. Not easy with the chipset informations BTW ...

IMHO hybrid TV cards are the last PCI one for the amiga and allready most of them are PCI-E.

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@COBRA

This card seemed to be a good candidate btw I'm not sure the chipset used but have good features and low profile.

The last word if really suitable is for Spirantho (because I'm new on this domain)

This card is available on numerous internet shop in france and also on amazon.

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@Mrodfr

I had a look at that card, it seems to be suitable, but I can't find them at any local computer shops/dealers...

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@Mrodfr

That card is 3.3V compliant, so if it fits mechanically in a SAM, it should work just fine!

What we really need is to decide on one card that I can use for primary support, which works with all Amigas. Then resellers like AmigaKit could bundle the software with known good hardware.

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@Dirk-B

Tthis one is low profile (see pictures the small steel bbackplate) and have features but have not found the chipset and don't know if OK for SAM...

Don't know Terratec untill now, dirk

http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Cinergy_HT_PCI_1828.html

NOTE: seemed to be a connexant CX23880 (maybe)... ????

linux user have difficulties to use this card...

Some links:

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Docume ... video4linux/CARDLIST.cx88

http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/file/40 ... cumentation/dvb/cards.txt

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#TerraTec


Edited by Mrodfr on 2009/3/28 7:43:49
Edited by Mrodfr on 2009/3/28 7:46:15
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@Spirantho

Ok, i got my videocard and it is an : Terratec TerraTValue Version BT878.

I have the playstation1 connected to it and it works.

I have only 1 thing and that is an litle green stripe(?) going from
the bottom upwards from right to left.

AmiTV 0.13

Edit: AmiTV's output says it is an "Hauppauge Bt878 WinTV" card.

Edit2: When i try to connect the sound to the soundcard can i get
sound from the playstation? I will try that tomorrow.


Edited by Dirk-B on 2009/3/27 21:49:22
Edited by Dirk-B on 2009/3/27 21:56:41
Edited by Dirk-B on 2009/3/27 21:57:36
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@Spirantho

We'll see. but I don't think it will be a problem.

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"shouldn't" isn't the same word as "isn't" though. :)

Remember the A1 has too much latency to DMA straight into the overlay as it is, let alone with an audio stream too.

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@Spirantho

Since the bandwidth required for a 720x576 25fps 16bpp video stream is 120 times more than what is required for stereo 44.1kHz 16-bit audio stream it should not make any difference as far as the bandwidth is concerned.

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The CX2388x chipset and the Bt878 can both stream audio. The only problem is how the Amiga will handle the added bandwidth.... and there's no interrupts yet on the Cx2388x versions....

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@Spirantho

OK thanks, is the audio handled by the Cx2388x or some other chip which can be completely different from card to card?

I'd be more than willing to test for you, if you want to support more cards. The more are supported the better :) I'm a bit afraid to buy it as it's not so cheap but if I can't find a better alternative I'll probably get one when I get my pay at the end of the month.

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Audio should work eventually - when I've written it! But there may be troubles there too, so don't bank on it. With 99% of composite inputs it's not a problem as you can just connect the source direct to your soundcard, it's only with RF it's a problem.

I don't know if any of my cards have that tuner, sorry. But I may be able to support it anyway if I can find the right I2C calls to make.... you'd need to do a lot of testing for me though!

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@Spirantho

The tuner in this card is an Intel CE6353, does any of your cards have that one? The card seems to be both 3.3 and 5V one, so it should work in any machine. Also, what about audio, would that work?

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If they use the supported chipsets, it's very likely they'll work just fine. No reason why they shouldn't.

RF isn't supported at the moment and might be if your card has a tuner chip that I have. If it doesn't, it probably won't work. I might be able to get it to work with some "external testing" (i.e. you run it and tell me how it failed) if so.

S-Video should work, just change the input to the S-Video one. If it's black and white you may need to press "S" to enable S-Video input, at least on the Cx2388x chipset cards.

If the card you're looking at has a notch in the connector near the backplane, it supports 3.3V. If it doesn't, and the notch is away from the backplane, it's 5V. If it has two notches, it'll work with 3.3V.

@Mrodfr:

I'd like to get DVB working some time but I can't find any datasheets for the DVB chipsets! Hence it's unlikely to happen any time soon...

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@Mrodfr

It seems there are several Leadtek WinFast cards which are widely available and are low profile cards (e.g. DTV1800H, DVR3100H, etc.), the only problem is the rear metal bracket which is for ATX and has to be replaced with a shorter one that suits slim cases. However it would be good if somebody with one of these cards could try them with AmiTV, as I don't want to spend money on it just to find that I can't use it.

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1. Low profile TV cards exist.
2. With the chipset needed for amiTV, thats become verry hard to found. Failed untill now...
3. The final point is an interesting TV card one because soon DVB-T only on lots of countries.

I don't know if Spirantho have planned to support other chipset (one on low profile PCI TV cards of course).

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