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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

Only to say that I will install AmigaOS 4.1 from my pendrive this evening,

Thank you and let's see if I have luck.

Only to say that I tried but the Workbench doesn't allow me to advance further on the format commend...what a a bad luck!!!


Edited by MamePPCA1 on 2024/5/28 17:54:32
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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@daveyw

Cheched and the line with SFS inside it is on the Kicklayout

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

I apreciate yor idea but my pendrive doesn't load automatically,so I must plug on the Kickstart screen in order to boot.

I will check the SFS line on my pendrive on Workbench as said this forum's user that I don't remember his name

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@noXLar

OK thank you

But I will go on my way and I will install AmigaOS 4.1 from my pendrive to DH0: volume!!! When I want or have a good space of time

I see no other solution

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

OK but on the Kicklayout or what? I really need your help

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

OK I will download and see what happens but I don't know really what could it happen.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@K-L

Yeah,yeah
But I make with keyboard the commands and nothing happensa except one error as shown on recent posts by smf user and I.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

I typed what sou say and it said:

"VERSION: object not found"

Even with "smartfilesystem" as lowercase

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

Yes

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@HypexQuote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Quote:
As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.


Ah yes, it's on the second page. Forgot about that. Ok, so that proves the partitions are still there or at least the partition holding the Kickstart. Which should be on DH0.

Quote:
How can I install RDB?


Using Media Toolbox. But I wouldn't recommend it without a backup. It will delete all records of your partitions.

Quote:
And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.


I can't think of any reason for them go missing. Usually there would be some sign like an NDOS icon on Workbench for any corrupt partition. Is it the same in the CLI? So if you run Info in a shell window is there also no sign? Assign is another command that will give info.

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Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.


The pendrive should have a compatible version. It may just be a basic recovery Workbench without any Enhancer fixes or just Radeon driver. While it's usually all pre-installed by a dealer that only works if the system doesn't break. Which in reality a recovery system should be able to fix. However your problem is unusual.

These days an X5000 is offered with an SSD drive. Currently Amedia sells it with one. What isn't ruled out yet is the HDD going faulty. The problems you experienced could be a symptom of that. The first HDD on my XE played within a few short years.


Yes the partitions are there,no doubt but I have mounted with Mounter on SYS:System I think.When they are mounted with this it appears a hand over it.All of this via pendrive that is the only way to see Workbench these recent days.

Yeah I will not mount RDB on MediaToolBox.It could be dangerous.

Yes my 3 partitions are not missing they are all shown inside my MediaToolBox utility.

I don't know if the pendrive has an compatible version of Partition Wizard.Yeah I know my problem is unusual but for now is a gigantic or great problem.

I don't need Amedia that they usually doesn't answer.I also have a pendrive.And yes I have an AmigaOne and is a very faulty

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

OK but where is an recent/updated SFS to boot from for example my pendrive?

I really need to know,so please help me someone.

My AmigaOS 4.1 is very important

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

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Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Yes it was after loading modules.

What happens if you let it boot normally off HDD? Does that break as well I expect? Or partially boot from HDD?

If there is no sign of your DH0 it may be destroyed. But it would take more than file corruption. You would have needed to purposely delete the partition or reinstall RDB by installing HDD again from Media Toolbox and resetting the RDB.

Does the HDD show up in Media Toolbox still?

I recommend running Partition Wizard from Utilities. It should be installed on your pen drive.

The X5000 CD would be the only one compatible but I don't know what would stop it booting. In any case you have the pen drive that works and would be faster.

Epsilon is an Amiga fan that runs a blog. He also has an X1000, X5000 and A1222. He's experienced with X5000 and has overcome problems when messing up files. However he isn't a forum regular here.

https://www.epsilonsworld.com/search?q=x5000


OK the aparition of Early Startup Menu was after the loading of the modules.

As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.

How can I install RDB?

And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.

Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.

Before I read Epsilon's blog: Has he similar HD problems as I? I want to know before read

Yeah the pendrive runs faster than the CD.That's for sure.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

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Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Yes it was after loading modules.

What happens if you let it boot normally off HDD? Does that break as well I expect? Or partially boot from HDD?

If there is no sign of your DH0 it may be destroyed. But it would take more than file corruption. You would have needed to purposely delete the partition or reinstall RDB by installing HDD again from Media Toolbox and resetting the RDB.

Does the HDD show up in Media Toolbox still?

I recommend running Partition Wizard from Utilities. It should be installed on your pen drive.

The X5000 CD would be the only one compatible but I don't know what would stop it booting. In any case you have the pen drive that works and would be faster.

Epsilon is an Amiga fan that runs a blog. He also has an X1000, X5000 and A1222. He's experienced with X5000 and has overcome problems when messing up files. However he isn't a forum regular here.

https://www.epsilonsworld.com/search?q=x5000


OK the aparition of Early Startup Menu was after the loading of the modules.

As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.

How can I install RDB?

And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.

Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.

Before I read Epsilon's blog: Has he similar HD problems as I? I want to know before read

Yeah the pendrive runs faster than teh CD.That's for sure.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

OK I did the test of booting the pendrive until the Kickstart modules loading and on the screen it doesn't show any partitions,neither the DH0:,DH1: and DH2:

As they didn't appear on Workbench last time I booted with my pendrive.

What is happening? Maybe I destroyed my DH0: partition?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex[quote]Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

So can you still boot pendrive to Workbench? That is full booting it from pendrive and nothing else?

But your HDD partitions don't show up anymore? So no sign on the recovery Workbench?

One thing to try. Boot the pendrive up to loading Kickstart. Then when it's about to boot Workbench hold both buttons down and enter early startup menu. Do you see any other partitions there?

Epsilon runs a blog and sacc-dude gave you a link to it. He is also active on Amiga forums. In the blog entry he caused some trouble by copying some incompatible files to his HDD and needed the recovery pendrive to fix it.

Do you have an OS4 CD? Yes if you have one you can boot that. You could also remove HDD but it shouldn't be necessary to do so of it can boot off CD.[/quoteY

Yes I could boot with pendrive.Yes full booting from pendrive and nothing else.




No my HDD partitions doesn't show anymore.No sign of Workbench recovered or not.

OK I will try to boot the pendrive and then to click both mouse buttons to enter Early Startup Menu.Only one question: May I push both buttons at the beginning of the loading or at the end of Kickstart modules?

Who is Epsilon? Anyway if he can help me welcome aboard.

Yes I have 3 AmigaOS 4.1 CDs: One for Classics,one for AmigaOne XE and another for AmigaOne X5000 that I tested and it doesn't boot

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dudeQuote:
sacc-dude wrote:Okay then.. I'm sensing a lot of resistance.

You need to tell us a lot more in detail to help you,
I notice you have lots of distractions (Finex, Dir Opus, Enhancer different file systems (SFS)

I guess you are using a A1-G3, as a base...

The clues bring us to asking for what is setup in your KickLayout file? It should include FastFilesystem, CDfilesystem, NGFile System, and SmartFile System on a X5000

There's so much more!!!
Who's your dealer? Maybe they could help?
What did you do to make your system unstable?
Maybe you could make a video, so that we could see what's going on?

You never responded to the Epsilion question?

without your help/info.. I can't do anything but point blindly

Sorry


Yes I probably have a lot of distractions like Fienix,Dir Opus,Enhancer or SFS

No I am not using an AmigaOne G3 that I have one broken and out of my hands now.

Yeah I think my Kicklayout includes FastFilesytem,CDfilesystem,NGFilesystem and SmartFileSystem.

My dealer is Amedia France.But they usually don't answer.Well maybe they could do it.My system made unstable the operation of copy of overwrite of AmigaOS 4.1 pendrive files inside my HD with Dir Opus.And I musn't make a video because I think I musn't upload on my AmigaOne X5000.And to make it clear my system doesn't boot just reset after AmigaOS 4.1 splash screen.

Who's Epsilon? I think I have not see him on this forum

I don't have so much more ideas.Only just to disconnect the AOS4.1 HD and boot from CD? Is this possible?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex&all

OK no money left now.

But back to the topic...

Any idea or possibility to restore my AmigaOS 4.1 and the other 2 partitions?

I am anxious to use it again

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@HypexQuote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

[quote]OK but I have little money and it is for some other things.


I imagine that's the case for everyone else who bought an X5000 as well. [/quote

Yes that's true.But in my case is for the suspension of some on my incomes.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dude

My graphic card is an ATI Radeon RHD5450 as shown on a Morphos utilitie.

I would go to AmiWest with closed eyes,that could be a dream for me,but in reality I have little money

And another issue is that Fienix doesn't accept well my passwords and if I enter it is unusable

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dude

OK but I have little money and it is for some other things.

My graphics card is an ATI Radeon that I don't remember the name and it has 256 MB

I don't know if I will bring my stuff to SACC meeting or AmiWest

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