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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

OK but on the Kicklayout or what? I really need your help

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

OK I will download and see what happens but I don't know really what could it happen.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@K-L

Yeah,yeah
But I make with keyboard the commands and nothing happensa except one error as shown on recent posts by smf user and I.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

I typed what sou say and it said:

"VERSION: object not found"

Even with "smartfilesystem" as lowercase

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

Yes

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@HypexQuote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

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As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.


Ah yes, it's on the second page. Forgot about that. Ok, so that proves the partitions are still there or at least the partition holding the Kickstart. Which should be on DH0.

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How can I install RDB?


Using Media Toolbox. But I wouldn't recommend it without a backup. It will delete all records of your partitions.

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And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.


I can't think of any reason for them go missing. Usually there would be some sign like an NDOS icon on Workbench for any corrupt partition. Is it the same in the CLI? So if you run Info in a shell window is there also no sign? Assign is another command that will give info.

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Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.


The pendrive should have a compatible version. It may just be a basic recovery Workbench without any Enhancer fixes or just Radeon driver. While it's usually all pre-installed by a dealer that only works if the system doesn't break. Which in reality a recovery system should be able to fix. However your problem is unusual.

These days an X5000 is offered with an SSD drive. Currently Amedia sells it with one. What isn't ruled out yet is the HDD going faulty. The problems you experienced could be a symptom of that. The first HDD on my XE played within a few short years.


Yes the partitions are there,no doubt but I have mounted with Mounter on SYS:System I think.When they are mounted with this it appears a hand over it.All of this via pendrive that is the only way to see Workbench these recent days.

Yeah I will not mount RDB on MediaToolBox.It could be dangerous.

Yes my 3 partitions are not missing they are all shown inside my MediaToolBox utility.

I don't know if the pendrive has an compatible version of Partition Wizard.Yeah I know my problem is unusual but for now is a gigantic or great problem.

I don't need Amedia that they usually doesn't answer.I also have a pendrive.And yes I have an AmigaOne and is a very faulty

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@smf

OK but where is an recent/updated SFS to boot from for example my pendrive?

I really need to know,so please help me someone.

My AmigaOS 4.1 is very important

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

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Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Yes it was after loading modules.

What happens if you let it boot normally off HDD? Does that break as well I expect? Or partially boot from HDD?

If there is no sign of your DH0 it may be destroyed. But it would take more than file corruption. You would have needed to purposely delete the partition or reinstall RDB by installing HDD again from Media Toolbox and resetting the RDB.

Does the HDD show up in Media Toolbox still?

I recommend running Partition Wizard from Utilities. It should be installed on your pen drive.

The X5000 CD would be the only one compatible but I don't know what would stop it booting. In any case you have the pen drive that works and would be faster.

Epsilon is an Amiga fan that runs a blog. He also has an X1000, X5000 and A1222. He's experienced with X5000 and has overcome problems when messing up files. However he isn't a forum regular here.

https://www.epsilonsworld.com/search?q=x5000


OK the aparition of Early Startup Menu was after the loading of the modules.

As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.

How can I install RDB?

And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.

Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.

Before I read Epsilon's blog: Has he similar HD problems as I? I want to know before read

Yeah the pendrive runs faster than the CD.That's for sure.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

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Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Yes it was after loading modules.

What happens if you let it boot normally off HDD? Does that break as well I expect? Or partially boot from HDD?

If there is no sign of your DH0 it may be destroyed. But it would take more than file corruption. You would have needed to purposely delete the partition or reinstall RDB by installing HDD again from Media Toolbox and resetting the RDB.

Does the HDD show up in Media Toolbox still?

I recommend running Partition Wizard from Utilities. It should be installed on your pen drive.

The X5000 CD would be the only one compatible but I don't know what would stop it booting. In any case you have the pen drive that works and would be faster.

Epsilon is an Amiga fan that runs a blog. He also has an X1000, X5000 and A1222. He's experienced with X5000 and has overcome problems when messing up files. However he isn't a forum regular here.

https://www.epsilonsworld.com/search?q=x5000


OK the aparition of Early Startup Menu was after the loading of the modules.

As I told before my AmigaOne X5000 resets after the splash screen.You can read it probably on my first posts.

How can I install RDB?

And as I said before my HDD partitions shows on Media toolBox.3 in total.

Partition Wizard doesn't run.I tried before and no luck.

Before I read Epsilon's blog: Has he similar HD problems as I? I want to know before read

Yeah the pendrive runs faster than teh CD.That's for sure.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

OK I did the test of booting the pendrive until the Kickstart modules loading and on the screen it doesn't show any partitions,neither the DH0:,DH1: and DH2:

As they didn't appear on Workbench last time I booted with my pendrive.

What is happening? Maybe I destroyed my DH0: partition?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex[quote]Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

So can you still boot pendrive to Workbench? That is full booting it from pendrive and nothing else?

But your HDD partitions don't show up anymore? So no sign on the recovery Workbench?

One thing to try. Boot the pendrive up to loading Kickstart. Then when it's about to boot Workbench hold both buttons down and enter early startup menu. Do you see any other partitions there?

Epsilon runs a blog and sacc-dude gave you a link to it. He is also active on Amiga forums. In the blog entry he caused some trouble by copying some incompatible files to his HDD and needed the recovery pendrive to fix it.

Do you have an OS4 CD? Yes if you have one you can boot that. You could also remove HDD but it shouldn't be necessary to do so of it can boot off CD.[/quoteY

Yes I could boot with pendrive.Yes full booting from pendrive and nothing else.




No my HDD partitions doesn't show anymore.No sign of Workbench recovered or not.

OK I will try to boot the pendrive and then to click both mouse buttons to enter Early Startup Menu.Only one question: May I push both buttons at the beginning of the loading or at the end of Kickstart modules?

Who is Epsilon? Anyway if he can help me welcome aboard.

Yes I have 3 AmigaOS 4.1 CDs: One for Classics,one for AmigaOne XE and another for AmigaOne X5000 that I tested and it doesn't boot

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dudeQuote:
sacc-dude wrote:Okay then.. I'm sensing a lot of resistance.

You need to tell us a lot more in detail to help you,
I notice you have lots of distractions (Finex, Dir Opus, Enhancer different file systems (SFS)

I guess you are using a A1-G3, as a base...

The clues bring us to asking for what is setup in your KickLayout file? It should include FastFilesystem, CDfilesystem, NGFile System, and SmartFile System on a X5000

There's so much more!!!
Who's your dealer? Maybe they could help?
What did you do to make your system unstable?
Maybe you could make a video, so that we could see what's going on?

You never responded to the Epsilion question?

without your help/info.. I can't do anything but point blindly

Sorry


Yes I probably have a lot of distractions like Fienix,Dir Opus,Enhancer or SFS

No I am not using an AmigaOne G3 that I have one broken and out of my hands now.

Yeah I think my Kicklayout includes FastFilesytem,CDfilesystem,NGFilesystem and SmartFileSystem.

My dealer is Amedia France.But they usually don't answer.Well maybe they could do it.My system made unstable the operation of copy of overwrite of AmigaOS 4.1 pendrive files inside my HD with Dir Opus.And I musn't make a video because I think I musn't upload on my AmigaOne X5000.And to make it clear my system doesn't boot just reset after AmigaOS 4.1 splash screen.

Who's Epsilon? I think I have not see him on this forum

I don't have so much more ideas.Only just to disconnect the AOS4.1 HD and boot from CD? Is this possible?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex&all

OK no money left now.

But back to the topic...

Any idea or possibility to restore my AmigaOS 4.1 and the other 2 partitions?

I am anxious to use it again

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@HypexQuote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

[quote]OK but I have little money and it is for some other things.


I imagine that's the case for everyone else who bought an X5000 as well. [/quote

Yes that's true.But in my case is for the suspension of some on my incomes.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dude

My graphic card is an ATI Radeon RHD5450 as shown on a Morphos utilitie.

I would go to AmiWest with closed eyes,that could be a dream for me,but in reality I have little money

And another issue is that Fienix doesn't accept well my passwords and if I enter it is unusable

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dude

OK but I have little money and it is for some other things.

My graphics card is an ATI Radeon that I don't remember the name and it has 256 MB

I don't know if I will bring my stuff to SACC meeting or AmiWest

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@sacc-dude

OK yes but I don't have a spare HDD.Except my Elements USB 2 TB,can I use it to install AmigaOS 4.1?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@HypexQuote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

It's hard to answer without knowing what's stopping the partition showing up. But if they don't show up in DirOpus they won't appear in the other backup programs as well. However, with DirOpus you also need to add your partitions to the list on the left unless you right click on the "S" button near the centre, to see your partitions.

So when you booted the pen drive did they show up? Does your Workbench show up? If you can see that then you can at least back it up.

Also, be careful of SFSSalv. It's rather old now and SFS has been updated since. Since you have an X5000 you should also have Enhancer included. This has an updated SFS as well as PartitionWizard. This can check your partitions for errors and also do a backup. The Salvage option can back up to another drive.

You have SFS\2 volume as well. I've had one in the past but it broke. I had to salvage the data. As mentioned SFS\2 lacks recovery tools. I've avoided it since. I may have been able to backup by copying off Workbench before the filessystem totally destroyed itself.

It's recommend to use NGFS now as it's a modern filesystem with 64 bit support and can replace both SFS\2 and JXFS with a supported filesystem that has recovery tools. But, the catch is, it's only released for X5000. It's constantly updated to fix bugs. However, there's no easy way to update it, as you are expected to track down the developers email address and ask for it.


Yeah DirOpus is a great utilitie and I am sure it could do the work.But I have not tested if the partitions appear or no.The option of clicking the "S" with the right mouse button is cool,I never imagined an option like this,because I am a 26 more or less year old DirOpus user and never used that,instead I never imagined it existed.

No when I boot the pendrive it don't show up any partition.

Yes I have Enhancer 1.1.May I use it?

How did you recover or backup your SFS/2 partition? I think it could be tricky or dangerous no?

What filesystem is NGFS? I tthink I never saw before or a bit only

About my SFS/2 partitions how can I make it visible or recover?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@Hypex

.Quote:
Hypex wrote:@MamePPCA1

Personally, I've tried these backup programs before, but end up giving up. Not sure what it was but they can get stuck if a file system has errors. I tend to go back to Workbench even though that has flaws.

Both are old designs and a strange mix. One is 68K so using old DOS functions but simple enough. The other is updated for OS4 but still using an old interface and is slightly confusing to use.

I'd use the older BackUp given the choice. Just needs source and destination. But, you could also just use a tool like DirOpus. That may be the easier option.


All you say is good but,how can I use an app like Directory Opus 4 if the partitions doesn't appear?

I really need a solution to this mess as soon as possible.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 fatal failure
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@joerg

OK I take note,but I think I've hearded it before.

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