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Re: qemu emualtion of AmigaONE XE
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@Maijestro

No one wanted to mess around with UBOOT on physical hardware just in case computer got bricked. I know lots of talks about it, if remember it HJF who worked on it, he is now working for Trever in ExecSG team, back then there some I think UBOOT had special command built in to protect against piracy. The old FW only accept keyboard in PS2 port, its annoying. As you need a keyboard that support PS2 adapter, also that UBOOT also refuse initialize a screen when the backup battery is flat. Scarry stuff. These are two main issues. Getting a newer UBOOT working on it be great.

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Re: Amiga Package Management (SDL)
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@nbache

It did update some stuff from Hyperion site as well, but perhaps, its just some old stuff. Is possible to remove the sites that’s not working?

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Re: Maintainer(s) for libsdl2_* libraries for AOS4
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@rjd324

maybe capehill

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Re: Who is getting the A1222 Plus?
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@Kamelito

Installing a new OS, does not fix bugs in old software.

The OS only finds the bugs faster, so you can report it to app developers, that’s if they are around to fix the bugs.

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Re: SAM460EX going black screen after official uboot2015b update
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@zerec

Perhaps it just can’t initialize the screen hock up a null modem cable to the sam460 and use Putty or some other serial terminal, too see if you can get into UBOOT.

There can also be some additional debug info there you can’t see on your screen normally.

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Re: how to make a shell window be active after boot by default ?
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@kas1e

Last started programs should be the active one, should be possible to set the start priority in WBStartup program.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@white

Picasso96 driver is built into EUAE, at least that’s how I understand it, if present or not depends on how it was compiled and if gfx output support picasso96.

So, you should not need to install anything, it should be preinstalled what you need.

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Re: New EGL_Wrap library is OUT!!! with support GLEW and shaders...
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@SinanSam460

In that case you should open timer.device, using OpenDevice.

cast the device to library, and use GetInterface as normal,
that should work.

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Re: New EGL_Wrap library is OUT!!! with support GLEW and shaders...
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@HunoPPC

I appreciate all work put into this, mind blowing stuff.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@white

AmigaOS3.2 is last maintained version of AmigaOS3.x

H&P worked on OS3.5 and OS3.9 but there some kind of breakdown between Amiga Inc and H&P, and some feelings got Hurth, much like Hyperion, H&P also bundled software with OS that they only licensed. That’s why kind had start over from scratch with OS3.1.4 and then OS3.2.2.1

Also 3.1.4 was about bug fixing, and OS3.2 I believe is about source code compatibility with OS4.x, or at least try to reduce the gap a bit. Should make it easier for people who write software, and perhaps reduce bugs in 68K software that often not so well tested.

AmigaOS3.2 is not 100% compatible with OS3.5/3.9 and some users are not happy with that, but what can you do.

Nothing is stopping you from have different EUAE setup with different OS versions, and clones.
I was thinking about trying to install Linux 68K on EAUE, if that works. Can be nice way to have proper UNIX terminal, but I guess filesharing will be an issue, so probably not worth the hazel.

Can be useful to have 100% compatible SH/Bash terminal, because is bugs and issues in fake Linux commands we use to build source code and configure scripts. (Perhaps better clibs2 will make things work better, and some issues will go away, that’s my hope. It least clib2 is open source, so there is possible to fix bugs if there are any.)

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

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emulate the Vampire functions completely.


it does NOT emulate Vampire at all, it does not know about the new hardware registers.

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Re: Max. partition size in AmigaOS4.1 (SFS2 handler)
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@Raziel

Perhaps you only notice it when you retch above 1TB of stored files

I think the max size depends on your set block size to as well, did they take that into account when set max value?

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Re: "ls" command crashes..
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@redfox

hemm... works now, must have corrupted some memory
never trust a bug report from hacker LOL

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Re: SDK broken
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@LiveForIt

never mind, a .h had some bad defines in a project i was working on.. nothing wrong false alarm

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"ls" command crashes..
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on AmigaOS4.1 try this in shell

sh
cd /tmp
ls

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SDK broken
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latest SDK,

Assert results in unrecognized opcode 'move.w'
someone messed up the SDK! hope someone will fix it.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

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Don't blame me if they will be disappointed with their hardware


It clear make no sense play around with slower embedded PowerPC chips, most definitely need to look at something faster, it continue to make sense to make new hardware, then we need look at Power6/7/8 maybe (previous generation). Power9 is probably too expensive.

Yeh, we should not blame you for anything, Trever was warned about putting the PowerPC chip he did on A1222 so, that only his fault if any.

I have thought about what puting ARM chip on AmigaONE-SE/XE cpu module, can be pretty good upgrade, you also bypass the slow onboard memory, you can do it with a faster PowerPC chip as well, it does not make much sense economically, perhaps.

Anyhow until QEMU catches up on 3D and 32bit graphics, there is a argument for real hardware.

Even if ARM/QEMU becomes faster, I don’t think it should stop the pressure of Multicore support on PowerPC. It’s better to get that done, and tested, then after that porting to ARM should be done.
Stopping development of SMP, just to port to ARM, will slowdown development.

For AmigaOS5 the plan was to visualize everything, I guess its all happening just not in the way we expected, only the digital platforms are Apple, Microsoft; Linux and Android. not Amiga.


Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/16 12:51:27
Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/16 12:56:13
Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/16 13:05:16
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Re: have you seen this?
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@Maijestro

So do you emulate misalignment on different instructions for different PowerPC cpu models? As seen people saying they are not getting exception under emulation. So clearly it’s not that exact.

It definitely wont make sese to check, such conditions under emulation, unless your looking for bugs, of course, you can have a option increase compatibility for this corner cases. to find this bugs in software. (But running 20% slower to find software bugs, won’t be something people want under normal conditions.)

Providing none exception on alignment bug, providing exception on no alignment bug.
under reporting or over reporting issues, perhaps wont be useful as well, under development.

In any case if QEMU is faster than a real Pegasus II and AmigaONE-XE/SE/Micro/Sam440/460, then people are going to stop using this old computers, they might update to newer X50x0 / X1222, or simply stick to emulation (in that case there is no issue, no point fixing the bugs). That is if people can afford a expensive Apple M1/M2 laptop, after all they are as expensive as PowerPC hardware, that people are complaining about being overpriced.


Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/13 18:36:53
Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/13 18:38:13
Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/13 18:39:02
Edited by LiveForIt on 2023/9/13 18:42:15
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Re: no SLB found in any of the designated boot sources: returning to u-boot, what to do?
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@Bugala

You need to boot from CDROM, or USB pen drive, and use media toolbox to reinstall SLB into RDB sector, there tools on PC to install CD ISO on pen drives.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-tools-make-bootable-usb-iso-file/

"Balena Etcher" is extremely popular.

CD ISO you can download from Hyperion, after you have logged in. if you have registered your copy.

Should be included with the machine, or you can transfer owner ship. Or buy a license from ACube systems.

(Not 100% sure if works, if UBOOT only accepts USB CDROM drives, you can also ask ACube-Systems)

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Re: have you seen this?
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@SinanSam460

Some desktop PowerPC is more tolerant to alignment issues.
AMCC40x0 CPU’s are embedded chips, cut down versions of desktop CPU’s,

Alignment exceptions are present on PA-Semi / X1000 cpu’s as well AltiVec, and reverse endianness instructions.

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