@all

IIRC, CBM licensed ARexx from the original porter of IBM's REXX
to the Amiga back in the early days - William Hawes.

But then, like with the speach-synth s/w, CBM tried to play fast
and loose with the devs with later OS versions, lost and then
they could only use the binaries they already had.

As a result the original 68K bits of ARexx and speach remain
trapped in ice. Anyone wanna start new PPC native replacements,
like the console? ;D

@davyw

I'm not sure how many OS's would elegantly deal with a user
randomly moving chunks of the OS out their proper locations.
If one starts removing parts from the OS, it's on moving man to
deal with the consequences, isn't it?

Thanks,

PJS

Hi Lazi,

Thanks for posting another version of Wormhole!

I installed it on my Amigas and it worked great. Auto accept is
working great. Clipboard syncing is a nice add! The progress
indicator is working.

I'll be curious to see how things work with foreign systems, if I can
ever get them to work. Still stuck on loonix x86 and osx PPC.

In both cases I decompressed the archives, I see the program file, it's
recognized as an application, but nothing will get it to actually,
recognizably run.

On linux in properties it says "executable (application/x-executable",
permissions are set to read+write and it shows it's an allowed executable.
I tried double-clicking & using the pop-up menu "run" in the GUI and
I tried running it in the shell (with "." & "./" prepended). I also
ran "chmod +x ", that didnt complain, but that made no
difference.

On the 10.4 mac, it's also recognized as a "application (PowerPC)",
I set all the persmissions to read+write, tried to double-click, "open"
and run it from the dock. In their shell I also tried all the path
possibilities, chmod'd, etc. Either it can't find it or (with "./")
it just says it's a directory (not an app).

There's probably some foreign magic I haven't been let in on.
Any clues?

Thanks again,

PJS

@OldFart

One of these days I'll have to take a look at AlignWindows.
It seems like it could help with the clutter of all the open
windows.

As it is now, it's always a matter of a lot of snapshotting to
get things right, until something changes. ;) But still not a
big deal.

But really the "mess" I had in mind was more if you were a bunch
of directories deep in the tree and ended up with a stack of
window icons. There's not enough room on the WB! ;)

A fantasy idea...

Maybe the icons of a single "stack" of directories could be
made to go into the a single WB icon?

When you single-clicked on it, it would pop-up a list of all the
succeeding dirs to let you open just one? When you double-clicked,
all the windows would reopen in one fell swoop?

Of course, having a "back" or "parent: button in the current WB
window would still be good to have.

Well food for thought...

Thanks,

PJS

@nbache

Indeed it looks like there's some issue between AmiSnap and the
Workbench iconification functionality. I disabled AmiSnap in
WBstartup and WB iconification worked after a reboot.

It even worked for a little when I started AmiSnap back up...
Until I got a lock up. ;)

So it's one or the other (or maybe some CX priority tweaking
could help?). hmmm...

As it now stands (with my v53.60 workbench), I think I'll just
keep the WB function off and AmiSnap on for what that gives all
windows.

Thanks,

PJS

Funny enough, as I was messing around, clicking on my Workbench
windows... one time the window iconified!

I'd completely forgotten installing and running the commodity
called "AmiSnap"...

https://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... /workbench/amisnap_fx.lha

It iconifies most any window by just clicking while holding down
a qualifier key.

How do I forget these things! So many things to play with
on Amigas.... :D

PJS

@nbache

LOL... I vaguely remembered that one along with a setting in
Workbench Prefs that was supposed to automatically close the
parent window when opening a child.

A long time I tried it, but the problem was a lack of an easy
way (yes, I know there's a contect menu entry) to get back to
the parent window.

IIRC, I think even filed an enchancement request years
(decades?) ago for a way to click back to the parent. ;)

Interestingly enough, I just tried the setting in WB Prefs and
it appears to have broken over the years. But the R-Amiga
double-click does still work.

c'est la vie,

PJS

Personally, I find general window management in AmigaOS to be
fantastically better than lesser platforms.

Windows in the "stack" stay where you left them (above/below
each other) and you can use any without changing that. The
zoom gadget between two sizes & the shift-click to full screen
is great! Double clicking (w/ commodity) to bring a window to
the front is simple.

Every other OS misses those basic things. The snap to full
screen when you touch the screen title bar in loonix & doze
is beyond annoying.

But AmigaOS iconification could be better.

In the Workbench, I'd suggest it would be at its best if the
windows weren't specific to a specific drive/drawer. Digging
into a directory tree leaves you with a lot of windows -
iconifying each would be a real mess, IMHO.

But getting the file view to use just one window would need a
major WB re-write to accomplish, I expect.

Maybe with that, a quick to navigate column view (a la osx -
but with intelligent sizing) could be added?

Interesting topic in any case!

Thanks,

PJS

@walkero

As you said, maybe the problem with AIOstreams and Invisious
was one of usage caps. I just tried youtube.py just now and
it returned results where it had previously caused errors.

hmmm...

Thanks for your efforts in any case!

PJS

@walkero

Hi George!

I just tried the new v1.7.8 version and got the same error as
Maijestro with the same command line.

Bummer that goggles seems to be messing up Invidious. But it
seems like the Nadeko site is at least partially working.
Example:

https://inv.nadeko.net/search?q=marcus+house

I'm wondering whether that could be used in lieu of the old
Invidious route or if they're on borrowed time.

FWIW, I also tried m.youtube.com this morning, but I could
not get any search results out of that one either.

hmmm...

PJS

@walkero

Hey walkero!

Some feedback...

When I try to search for some videos that used to regularly appear, they
no longer surface in AIOstreams. At the same time others still do - I've
noticed no pattern about when/why.

An example would be videos by Marcus House on space news. They regularly
appeared before. Now this is what I get in the shell with AIO's youtube.py:

-----
youtube.py -sv "Marcus House"
aiostreams vv1.7.7 (2023-12-20) - Developed by George Sokianos

URL Views Title
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "youtube.py", line 490, in
main(sys.argv[1:])
File "youtube.py", line 353, in main
videoId = video['id']['videoId']
KeyError: 'videoId'
-----

And yet, I can still go back to some of the web front ends and find
videos in YT:

https://inv.nadeko.net/search?q=marcus+house

Maybe it's a server problem? Please let me know if you want me to collect
more data or do more tests.

With regards to the video resolutions, you should probably chat wth Mick
about what nastiness goggles is up to. There are ways to get higher def
vids, but they seem to involve a lot of tricks.

Thanks for all your efforts on this!

PJS

@broadblues

Hey stranger!

You can get a bunch of info on your interface with the
shownetstatus command...

shownetstatus interface=[name]

Naturally, "help shownetstatus" will tell you more.

...of course that all depends on whether the interface driver
is working correctly. It works correctly on my X5K's rtl8169
and the sam460 within reach, but I always heard the MAC address
in Matty's mothOS X5K driver was dodgy.

What we need is for Jamie (speaking of strangers!) to release
his OS4 X5K driver!

c'est la vie.

Good luck,

PJS

@skynet

I personally didn't delete any datatypes... I just installed
the Warp ones with their installers (which could have?).

On the other hand, aside from the radeon driver (bought) and
the old Multiviewer I was testing and working on (scripts), I
have *sero* of MattyOS installed.

If you wanted to get to the cause, you could try booting your
system off a clean AmigaOS (the install CD?) and seeing if
Multiviewer works with the operating system then?

Good luck,

PJS

@tao

Thanks for the suggestion. I just tried all those options
(even with full paths), but they didn't work either in both
OSX & linux.

In OSX, there's also the deal where "applications" are also
directories with things in them and for whatever reason,
Wormhole is not being recognized as an "application".

c'est la vie.

PJS

@lazi

Hi lazi!

Thanks for making the new version with the MacPPC & loonix builds!!

I downloaded each of the ZIP files from your site, but I wish I could
say I could get either foreign one to run.

On OSX PPC v10.4, the ZIP file dearchived fine, shows me the Wormhole
icon and Info says it's a "Application (PowerPC)". But double-clicking,
right clicking & using the "Open" menu item or putting it in the dock
& clicking there all did nothing.

I also tried using their piss poor excuse for a shell, eventually
navigated my way to the Wormhole dir and tried to run "Wormhole_OSX_ppc"
and it said "command not found".

"Mac, it just works" ??

On PopOS! loonix (Ubuntu based), I decompressed the ZIP archive to the
"desktop" and essentially had the same experience. Properties tells me
it's an "executable" and is "allowed" to be "executed as a program".

But double-clicking on the app did nothing, right-clicking & using
the "Run" pop-up menu item did nothing in list view. Weirdly enough,
putting it into icon view and using the pop-up "Run" menu made the
desktop say it was "loading", but that's it... After an hour or so
I closed the "loading..." notification.

In the loonix shell, it almost the same as OSX. Navigating to the
Wormhole dir (on my desktop, with the "executable") and typing the
filename just says 'command "Wormhole" not found...'. Dragging &
dropping the executable into the shell (to get the full path&name to
the file) yielded "No such file or directory".

So drag&drop is just broken in loonix? Brilliant!

I'm not much of an expert on the inner workings of OSX (they really
don't want you to be, do they?) and even less so on loonix. Is there
some sort of "run" or "execute"-like command to be used? Special
incantation required? Atari user that needs to be sacrificed? ;D

Funny how good MiggyOS looks when you use these lesser OS's. :)

v1.0.1 installed on my X5K & 460 and working great.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions for the others.

Thanks again!

PJS

@skynet

FWIW, I've been using Warp datatypes for a long time without
any issues, including with WEBP files and an old beta of
Multiviewer. Those datatypes are REALLY mature software.


@jabirulo

I agree with Tuvok, the Warp datatypes continue to get regular
updates and may even support more functionality than the ones
bundled with AmigaOS.

Good luck,

PJS

@lazi

Hi Lazi!

THANKS for your work on this utility! It's got great
potential!

I tested it on my X5K and 460 and with a bunch of relatively
small transfers and a couple ~75MB files. Everything worked
fine, but I never saw any progress indicators.

I've also got another SAM that's downstairs - obviously not in
convenient reach for accepting file transfers. I was hoping
"Always Accept" would let me set distant machines to just
receive files. But even with "Always Accept", Wormhole still
brings up a file requester each time. Could there be some
"auto" setting?

Curiously, since with a file requester you can cancel transfers,
doesn't it make the preceding "Accept?" requester kind of
redundant? ;D

I was also wondering about "Keep last destination" - is that so
you can set the default download location? If so, it appears
to not being saved with settings.

I hope I can offer several suggestions for your consideration:

1) Provide a setting where you can name your machine. Both my
Amigas just appear as the name of their net interface ("ether").
...or Wormhole could use the "hostname" set in Roadshow?

2) Could there be a way to send the contents of the clipboard
to the remote wormhole's clipboard? Maybe just click in the
center of the wormhole? Even just ASCII text would be great.

3) Even if you implement the progress "ring", could you add an
option for showing an AmigaOS notification at completion of a
transfer?

I look forward to seeing linux x86 and mac PPC builds so I can
try Wormhole with my work machines (where I really need the
ability to echange files).

In any case, I put it in AmiDock and look forward to new
versions!

THANKS AGAIN!

PJS

@Paul

HI,

Sorry! I forgot to add a couple details on the use of
ghostscript... It is a fussy program!

I do have an assignment to ghostscript's directory
("GHOSTSCRIPT:") and I always cd to that directory before
using it.

Fortunately, with the Amiga shell that's trivial, type "gh",
hit the tab key and then return and you're there.

Then I usually set the stack to 1000000 to avoid other issues
with gs not allocating enough stack. Since I use gs a lot, I've
set an assignment ("ss") to do "stack 10000000" quickly.

Naturally, with an Amiga there are so many ways this all could
be automated... F.e., you could have an ARexx script running
to watch a PS files dir and having make/show PDF files for you
on the fly?

There's no end to Miggy hacking fun. :D

Good luck,

PJS

Yeah, apparently ko-fi doesn't care much for Miggies...

But I found at least the parts of the ko-fi page including the
screenshots will appear in IBrowse ONLY if you kill javascript
*BEFORE* going to the page.

Just go into IB prefs, URL settings and make an entry for
#?ko-fi.com#? that deactivate JS.

Aside from ko-fi, the work on Qt6 looks really impressive,
I hope the apps are holding together well and we get to play
with them soon!

...patience, patience, patience... ;D

/me fires up loonix to go make a contribution...

PJS

@Paul


"BTW, I've noticed that several PDF's from Pagestream Amiga didn't print."


Hi Paul,

I meant to answer earlier about Pagestream and PDFs... I make
a lot of PDF files with Pagestream (filling out forms for work)
and I've found the built in "Save as PDF" never works well.

OTOH, if you use the regular Pagestream printing system then
you can make great PDF files. Just follow these steps:

- In the Pagestream print set up window, set Pagestream to print
in "Postscipt" mode

- Select the PPD config file for the "HP/HPLaserJet4P-4MP300"
(I found that's one of the best printer descriptions for doing
this).

- Set to have "Font unload" set for the document.

- Set to send to disk file.

- Obviously, in the setup window you set page formatting for
your document.

- With send to disk file, the main print window will show a
"Save" button. When you click that, Pagestream will ask
for a filename and then create a postscript file there of your
Pagestream document.

- With the AmigaOS ghostscript CLI program or with AmiGS you
can then make a PDF file that will include all the fonts, etc.
that Pagestream typically misses in the PDF files it makes.
FYI, the command line for ghostscript I use (in an alias) is:

gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=[PDF FILENAME] [PS FILENAME]

- Obviously, you should also be able to print directly from
ghostscript or AmiGS using their postscript outputs if the
drivers and printers accept postscript input.

You might even be able to use the same postscript printing
method to print directly to airprint as if it were a postscript
printer, but I haven't tried that yet. Just gotta get all the
bits to work together! ;)

Good luck,

PJS

Thanks petrol & davyw,

I downloaded & tried the heif-convert programs on OS4depot. As
near as I can tell, it seems to be an OS4 port from a 68K port?

In any case, both the -convert and -info programs both generate
DSI's and PThreads DSI's. No conversion ever happened.

:/

PJS